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Will You Accept what the Bible teaches about Mankinds Nature?
Posted : 16 Apr, 2010 09:15 PM

The view one takes concerning Salvation will be determined, to a

large extent, by the view one takes concerning sin and its effects on

human nature. When Calvinists speak of man as being totally depraved,

they mean that man's nature is corrupt, perverse, and sinful

throughout. It does not mean that man is as totally wicked as he can

be. "total" is used to indicate that the WHOLE of man's being has

been affected by sin.



A. As a result of Adams transgression, men are born in sin and by

nature are spiritually dead: therefore, if they are to become God's

children and enter His kingdom, they must be born anew of the Spirit.



1. When Adam was placed in the garden of Eden, he was warned not to

eat the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil on the threat

of immediate SPIRITUAL death.

Genesis 2:16,17: and the Lord commanded the man, saying, "You may

freely eat of every tree on the garden; but of the tree of the

knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day you eat

of it you shall die."



2. Adam disobeyed and ate of the forbidden fruit (Gen. 3:1-7);

consequently, he brought spiritual death upon himself and upon the

whole human race.

Romans 5:12; Therefore as sin came into the world through one man

[Adam, see vs. 14] and DEATH through sin, and so death spread to all

men because all men sinned.



EPHESIANS 2:1-3 and you he MADE ALIVE, when you were DEAD through

trespasses and sins in which you once walked, following the course of

this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit

that is now at work in the sons of disobedience. Among these we all

once lived in the passions of our flesh, following the desires of

body and mind, and so we were BY NATURE children of wrath, like the

rest of mankind.



Colossians 2:13; And you who were DEAD in trespasses and the

uncircumcision of your flesh, GOD MADE ALIVE together with him,

having forgiven us all our trespasses.



3. David confessed that he, as well as all other men, was born in

sin.



Psalm 51:5; Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin did

my mother conceive me.

Psalm 58:3; The wicked go astray from the womb, the err from their

birth, speaking lies.



4. Because men are born in sin and are by nature spiritually dead,

Jesus taught that men must be born anew if they are to enter God's

kingdom.

John 3:5-7; Jesus answered, "Truly, Truly, I say unto you, unless

one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot ENTER the kingdom of

God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is

born of the Spirit is Spirit. Do not marvel that I said to you,

'YOU MUST BE BORN ANEW'" compare John 1:12,13



B. As a result of the fall, men are blind and deaf to spiritual truth.

Their minds are darkened by sin; their hearts are corrupt and evil.



Gen. 6:5; The Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the

earth, and that EVERY IMAGINATION OF THE THOUGHTS OF HIS HEART WAS

ONLY EVIL CONTINUALLY.



Gen. 8:21...The imagination of man's heart is EVIL from his youth..

Ecclesiastes 9:3...The HEARTS of men are FULL OF EVIL, and madness is

in their hearts while they live...



Jeremiah 17:9; The HEART IS DECEITFUL ABOVE ALL THINGS, and

DESPERATELY CORRUPT; who can understand it?

Mark 7:21-23; "For from within, OUT OF THE HEART OF MAN, come evil

thoughts, fornication, theft, murder, adultery, coveting, wickedness,

deceit, licentiousness, envy, slander, pride, foolishness. All these

evil things come from within, and they defile a man."



John 3:19; And this is the judgment, that the light has come into

the world, and MEN LOVED DARKNESS, rather than light because their

deeds were evil.

Romans 8:7,8; For the MIND that is set on the flesh is hostile to

God; IT does not submit to God's law, indeed it CANNOT; and those who

are in the flesh CANNOT PLEASE GOD.

1 Corinthians 2:14: The unspiritual man does not receive the gifts

of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and, HE IS NOT ABLE

TO UNDERSTAND THEM because they are spiritually discerned.



Ephesians 4:17-19: Now this I affirm and testify in the Lord, that

you must no longer live as the Gentiles do, in the futility of their

minds; they are DARKENED IN THEIR UNDERSTANDING, alienated from the

life of God because of the ignorance that is in them, DUE TO THEIR

HARDNESS OF HEART; they have become callous and have given themselves

up to licentiousness, greedy to practice every kind of uncleanness.



Ephesians 5:8 For once you were DARKNESS, but now you are light in the

Lord...

Titus 1:15: To the pure all things are pure, but to the corrupt and

unbelieving nothing is pure; THEIR VERY MINDS AND CONSCIENCES ARE

CORRUPTED.





C. Before sinners are born into God's kingdom through the

regenerating power of the Spirit, they are children of the Devil and

under his control; they are slaves to sin.



John 8:44 You are of YOUR FATHER THE DEVIL, and YOUR WILL is to do

your father's desires.

Ephesians 2:1,2; And you he made alive, when you were dead through

the trespasses and sins in which you once walked, following the

course of this world, FOLLOWING THE PRINCE OF THE POWER OF THE AIR,

the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience.



2 Timothy 2:25,26; God may perhaps grant that they will repent and

come to know the truth, and they may escape from THE SNARE OF THE

DEVIL, after being CAPTURED BY HIM TO DO HIS WILL.



1 John 3:10; By this it may be seen who are the children of God,

and who are the CHILDREN OF THE DEVIL: whoever does not do right is

not of God, nor he who does not love his brother.

1John 5:19; We know that we are of God, and the whole world is IN

THE POWER OF THE EVIL ONE.



John 8:34; Jesus answered them, "Truly , Truly, I say to you,

every one who commits sin is a SLAVE TO SIN".

Romans 6:20; When you were SLAVES OF SIN, you were free in regard to

righteousness.

Titus 3:3; For we ourselves were once foolish, disobedient, led

astray, SLAVES to various passions and pleasures, passing our days in

malice and envy, hated by men and hating one another.





D. The reign of sin is universal; all men are under it's power;

consequently, none is righteous---not even one!



2 Chronicles 6:36; ....for there is NO MAN who does not sin...

Job 15:14-16; What is a man, that he can be clean? Or he that is

born of a woman, that he can be righteous? Behold, God puts no trust

in his holy ones, and the heavens are not clean in his sight; how

much less one who is abominable and corrupt, A MAN WHO DRINKS

INIQUITY LIKE WATER!



PSALM 130:3; If Thou, O Lord, shouldst mark iniquities, Lord,

WHO COULD STAND?

Psalm 143:2; Enter not into judgment with thy servant; for

NO MAN LIVING is righteous before Thee.

Proverbs 20:9; Who can say, "I have made my heart clean; I am pure

from my sin?"

Ecclesiastes 7:20: Surely there is NOT A RIGHTEOUS MAN ON EARTH

who does good and never sins.

Ecclesiastes 7:29; Behold, this alone I found, that God made man

upright, but they have sought out many devices.



Isaiah 53:6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every

one to his own way...

Isaiah 64:6; We have all become like one who is unclean, and all our

righteous deeds are like a polluted garment. We all fade like a

leaf, and our iniquities, like the wind, take us away.



Romans 3:9-12; What then? are we Jews any better off? No, not at

all; for I have already charged that ALL MEN, both Jews and Greeks,

ARE UNDER THE POWER OF SIN, as it is written; "NONE is righteous, no,

not one; no one understands, no one seeks for God. All have turned

aside, together they have gone wrong; NO ONE DOES GOOD,NOT EVEN ONE."

James 3:2,8; For we all make many mistakes, and if any one makes no

mistakes in what he says he is a perfect man, able to bridle the

whole body also...but no human being can tame the tongue--

a restless evil, full of deadly poison.



I John 1:8,10; If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and

the truth is not in us..If we say we have not sinned, we make him a

liar, and his word is not in us.





E. Men left in their dead state are unable of themselves to repent,

to believe the gospel, or to come to Christ. They have no power

within themselves to change their natures or to prepare themselves for

salvation.





JOB 14:4; Who can bring a clean thing out of an unclean?

There is not one.

Jeremiah 13:23; Can the Ethiopian change his skin or the leopard his

spots? Then also you can do good who are accustomed to do evil.



Matthew 7:16-18 YOU will know them by their fruits. Are grapes

gathered from thorns, or figs from thistles? So, every sound tree

bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears evil fruit. A sound tree

cannot bear evil fruit, NOR CAN A BAD TREE BEAR GOOD FRUIT.

Matthew 12:33 "Either make the tree good, and its fruit good; or

make the tree bad, and its fruit bad; for the tree is known by its

fruit."



John 6:44; NO ONE CAN COME TO ME UNLESS the Father who sent me

DRAWS HIM; and I will raise him up on the last day.



John 6:56; And he said, "This is why I told you that NO ONE CAN COME

TO ME UNLESS IT IS GRANTED HIM BY THE FATHER."



Romans 11:35,36; "Or who has given a gift to him that he might be

repaid?" For from him and through him and to him ARE ALL THINGS.

to him be glory forever. AMEN.



1 Corinthians 2:14; The UNSPIRITUAL MAN does not receive the gifts

of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and HE IS NOT ABLE

TO UNDERSTAND THEM because they are spiritually discerned.

1 Corinthians 4:7; For who sees anything different in you? What

have you that you did not receive? If then you received it,

WHY DO YOU BOAST AS IF IT WERE NOT A GIFT?



2 Corinthians 3:5; Not that we are SUFFICIENT OF OURSELVES to claim

anything as coming from us; our sufficiency is FROM GOD.







From these Scriptures we see that we are unable of ourselves to do

anything toward gaining salvation. We must rely totally on God's

mercy and love.





Sincerely,

James

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Will You Accept what the Bible teaches about Mankinds Nature?
Posted : 18 Apr, 2010 09:58 PM

Man of god it is of no relevance to make senses, the word will never make senses.



As far as you telling me what to do, you have no merit, or ability to say anything to any body until you reconcile yourself with the lord.

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Posted : 19 Apr, 2010 12:52 AM

lol.........yeah right......like you know me!Id say you got some bitterness in you dude since we are judging each other today,and HOW DARE YOU!You have no way of knowing about my walk with Christ.

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Posted : 19 Apr, 2010 03:21 AM

make senses...what is this make senses...lol:ROFL:

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Posted : 19 Apr, 2010 06:35 AM

Manofgod...I'm very impressed with your mercy and understanding, you really show your walk with God. I'm sure many here will come to God because of your Christ-like humility. Oh wait...you know what? I don't think you're trying to witness...I think you just want to fight/be right. Forget trying to lead people to Christ...lets polarize them from what you believe to be the truth...great way to have an argument, really bad way to be a christian example and witness about your beliefs. "How dare" Phillip? lol...yeah...lets call everyone stupid that doesn't agree with you. Maybe even call some of them heretics...and then get offended when people call YOUR walk with Christ into question....Amen, brother...way to taste your own medicine.:laugh::goofball:



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Posted : 19 Apr, 2010 08:05 AM

There is no judgement involved, I am a believer, I believe the word of God is absolutely true, and the word says you will know them by their fruit, and that out of the abundance of their heart they will speak, what I see coming out of your heart in abundance is calvinism, reformed theology, I don't believe for one minute

Jesus needed to be reformed. The word is true and is alive and never changes, nor can it be corrupted!!

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Posted : 19 Apr, 2010 09:17 AM

okay Mark,Ill try to be nicer.i do get a little too tough sometimes,uunnhhh philipJohn unless your cathlolic you should be glad thier was a reformation....the catholic church was making people pay money to pay for their sins,martin Luther is responsible for the protestant churches today!im sorry sir,but your history is weak,was that too mean?No I dont want to fight,but I am tired of people bashing Calvinists like its some kind of heresy,its utterly ridiculous because they dont even know history.

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Posted : 19 Apr, 2010 09:51 AM

Yeah...I should be too...I have been a hypocrite once again...sorry dude.



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Posted : 19 Apr, 2010 10:57 AM

Yup ! I will an have accepted what the Bible teaches bout Mankinds Nature...An right here an now on this thread I see alota Mankinds Nature...Hummmm...:rolleyes:...

...Who let the Dogs out..???...Ruff...Ruff...Ruff...Ruff...

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