Hmm...I skipped most of this thread, but I just wanted to add that the last church in revelation, Laodicea, is chastised for being lukewarm. I think the current christian church is represented here by this prophecy. It seems that only the Christians that are in need of the spirit receive it, and most Christians now do not rely on God the way they should....including me. We seem to be satisfied with our lives as a whole, and just kinda cruise through our christian walk....placing importance on things that have no eternal value. I'm not sure what to do about it, so don't look at me, lol. I'm pretty sure the phrase "oh ye of little faith" applies here....it's probably pointed at a lot more of us than we think. And...miracles seem to be dependent, not only on the faith of the miracle worker, but also on the person needing the miracle. Faith, Holy Spirit, and Miracles seem to go hand in hand. So...you may have the Holy Spirit, and may enough faith to be able to call on Jesus to perform a miracle...but if the person you're trying to heal/help doesn't have faith then they most likely will not be helped. I could be wrong, but that seems to be the bible trend. "Your faith has made you whole". Not "My faith has made you whole". There are miracles...like...calming seas and raising the dead that only rely on the faith of one person though...so it's complicated...but...anyway...I'm out...
dear walter, you make good discussions .. you use scripture to help support your beliefs on things..
so you really dont need to throw insults around in them..
i wanna make sure that youve seen the rules here.. so here they are..
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now with that said... you say you wont stop that behavior.. the insulting.. well i certainly hope you do..
you know alot of these same discussions on the differences and on many different subjects have been goin on for many many years.. each sides having good scripture to back their beliefs..
The word "insults" in this "warning" has to do with "Personal Insults" just like all forums have throughout the Internet. I made no personal insults to anyone Brother. If I point out in scripture that someone's Theological belief is in error or that I point out that certain actions that occur within the Charismatic and Pentecostal churches is similar to what the scriptures describe as Demonic possession, then that is in no way an insult. If they feel insulted that does not qualify as an insult under the terms of the agreement of this site. If it does then anyone of us at any time could construe certain comments as being an insult and then not many would be left here to discuss scriptures.
When a person feels insulted because someone disagrees with their theological positions and points out comparisons that are legitimate then perhaps they are lacking maturity. As mature Christians we should not be bothered when someone disagrees with us no matter how strongly they believe. In other words, mature Christians don't feel insults and are not offended. People who feel Insults and Offenses occurs when they struggle with Pride.
Certainly the things I have said do not qualify as Personal insults.
There have been many heated debates on this board with many attacks on someone's theological beliefs and yet I do not recall you getting involved this way. Could it be, just perhaps, that it is due to you being Pentecostal and I was addressing Charismatic/Pentecostal Issues? I would hate to think that!
The only time throughout Church history we see "alleged gifts" is among known cults and the Occult both of whom deny Christ Jesus.
The Gibberish we hear among Charismatics and Pentecostals is not real "tongues". There is no such thing as a "spiritual Language" that is a tongue and we do not speak in Angelic tongues either. Coincidentally it is the very same Gibberish spoken by cults and other groups who deny Jesus as being the Christ.
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that is a personal insult to every single charasmatic ,pentecostol , gift given, tongue speaking person and that whole denomination here..
comparing them to people who deny JESUS CHRIST..and makin fun of their gifts.. belittling others..
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There have been many heated debates on this board with many attacks on someone's theological beliefs and yet I do not recall you getting involved this way. Could it be, just perhaps, that it is due to you being Pentecostal and I was addressing Charismatic/Pentecostal Issues? I would hate to think that!
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and that there is a personal insult to myself ...
the last week or so things are really gettin out of hand here.. its no longer just discussions, but a bashing of other peoples , denominations or beliefs.. now we can all find something about another denomination that we could quote scriptures on and then turn and proceede to bashing them and insulting them.. but you are right then it would be no one left here .. youd have to debate with yourself.. and alot of folks havent been contributing because of said actions of others.. so its gotta stop here now..
you have done this same types of behavior towards other denominations and JESUS CHRIST believers.. and i can go back and find them if nesecery.. its uncalled for..
ya see no one here has dibbs on knowing 100% absolute truth on all things.. and no one here has no idea what the LORD is doin in another persons lives.. or how HE is using them or how HE is gonna use them..
we dont go to the other persons church so we dont know what theyre church believes.. or how their chuch acts.. what goes on there..
this is not up for debate, this is a request for this to stop walter.. and i appreciate your cooperation.
This is most certainly up for debate as you are not the owner of this site and I will not back down in presenting the truth of God's word and if His word demonstrates that the beliefs and or actions of various groups is contrary to God's Word and like I said resembles that of what the Bible calls demonic, then that is what will be presented because the Bible itself presents it so. What's the old saying... "If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and looks like a duck, it's a duck."
I believe you are wrongfully misapplying what the administration of this site has deemed to be an "insult". I will contact them and get their ruling as to what their intended meaning of "Insult" is.
Generally speaking, it is a shame that "Political Correctness" instead of God's truth seems to be the direction some are leaning towards these days but then again, that is prophesy being fulfilled.
2Tim 4:2 Preach the word! Be ready in season and out of season. Convince, rebuke, exhort, with all longsuffering and teaching.
3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers;
4 and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables. NKJV
I guess we need to be careful as well not to say that Homosexuality is a sin as that might "Insult" homosexuals. We certainly wouldn't want to offend them now would we?
What about Jehovah's Witnesses? We can't label them as being a "Cult" can we? After all one might be on this site and feel "Insulted".
What about Mormons? We don't want to offend them and point out that they are a cult either as they might feel "Insulted".
What about Muslems? If we say that they worship a false God, they might get insulted as well. We certainly don't want to do that now would we?
We can find all sorts of reasons to call something someone said as being an "Insult" but just because they "feel" that way doesn't make it so.
I believe as mature Christians who do not struggle with pride can allow an insult or offense to roll off their back like water on a duck.
Knock Knock...Hi Yall...May I come in...Oh My..!!! I see here that the Topic of Discussion is "Demonic Possession"...an now that I have taken the time to read all this...this...this...Pooey Stuff its obvious that Lucifer/Satan :devil: has been doin a bang up job at dropping seeds of Dis-Cord here...Hummmmm....:rolleyes:...Ima go play in a differant sandbox...:bouncy:...Luv yall...
Yall hava a nice day...unless of course yall have other plansssssssssssssss.........:boxing:.......xo
dear folks, this is how the word says for us to teach others..
2 timothy 2:24-26 24 And a servant of the Lord must not quarrel but be gentle to all, able to teach, patient, 25 in humility correcting those who are in opposition, if God perhaps will grant them repentance, so that they may know the truth, 26 and that they may come to their senses and escape the snare of the devil, having been taken captive by him to do his will.
I have not made any personal insults so there is nothing to stop. I have already written the Administration about this matter and have asked for their ruling.
All other Christian sites that I have been on does not have the definition you are trying to impose on the word "Insults". I personally know this as a fact because I have been on debate forums for years.
It will be interesting to see how the Administration rules here.
