Thread: importance in knowing the Feast of the LORD--I THINK YOU ALL SHOULD READ THIS
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importance in knowing the Feast of the LORD--I THINK YOU ALL SHOULD READ THIS
Posted : 14 Dec, 2009 05:32 PM
As christians growing up in western Gentile churches we are not taught the Feast of the LORD. It is very important to understand them because YAHSHUA (JESUS) fulfilled the Spring Feast down to the last detail and HE will fulfill the Fall Feast when HE comes as judge. Mattithyahu (Matthew) 7:22-23 says "Many shall say to me in that day, Master,Master, have we not prophesied in Your Name, and cast out demons in Your Name, and done many mighty works in Your Name? 23 And then I shall declare to them, I never knew you, depart from Me, you who are lawlessness." In these verses HE is saying those who are lawless meaning those who do not keep HIS law meaning the Torah (the instructions). Those who go out and make up denominations and call them HIS. Those who do not worship on HIS appointed day, the Sabbath. Those who cast out demons, they will say they have done many works in HIS Name. Who does this sound like to you? Do you think that nonbelievers would say to HIM they cast out anything in HIS Name? NO it is the churches that have been misleading you into believing that you no longer need to keep the law. Many will preach to you and say JESUS did away with the law by shedding HIS blood on the cross. When really HE bought you with HIS blood and was the Passover Lamb, by which HE was fulfilling the Passover rehearsal they had been keeping since they came out of slavery. HE did away with the sacrifice you don't have to spill blood anymore cause HE did it for the last time. If they say that HE did away with the law then why would HE say in Mattithyahu (Matthew) 5:17-20 "Do not think that i came to destroy the Torah or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to complete. 18 For truly, I say to you, till the heaven and the earth pass away, one yod or one tittle shall by no means pass from the Torah till all be done. " (NOW READ THIS NEXT PART WITH UNDERSTANDING) " 19 Whoever, then breaks one of the least of these commands, and teaches men so, shall be called the least in the reign of the heavens; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the reign of the heavens. 20 For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you shall by no means enter into the reign of the heavens." When YAHSHUA came HE broke all of the rabbinic law that the Pharisees had put into place many of which we do the same of by saying things like well christmas means this to me and i think that HE doesn't really mean we should keep the old law that is old we are living in the new times. That my friends will get you a one way ticket to "depart from me". When HE says no yod or tittle will pass that means no yod or tittle until the end of the world. Meaning we keep these commands forever. Look closely at the part that says men teach others to not keep it, that is what religious systems are doing by telling you to worship on sungod day and not to keep HIS appointed times. If JESUS tells you to do something then what should you do? We misread Scripture to make it fit into our lives so we can live the way we want to live. YAHWAH has always wanted us to be servants of HIM to call HIM ELOHIM. Do some research on christmas and easter. For easter you can look up ,mithra and nimrod, and christmas just search origins of christmas and you'll see it is the birthdays of mithra,ra, and many other sungods that were being worshiped in those days and now.
In 1 Thessalonians 5:1-6 " Now brothers, as to the times and the seasons, you do not need to be written to. 2 For you yourselves know very well that the day of YAHWAH comes as a thief in the night. 3 For when they say, "Peace and safety!" then suddenly destruction comes upon them, as labour pains upon a pregnant woman, and they shall not escape. 4 But you, brothers, are not in darkness, so that this Day should overtake you as a thief. For you are all sons of light and sons of the day. We are not of the night nor of darkness. 6 So then, we should not sleep, as others do, but we should watch and be sober." this is saying that they needed no writing about the times and the seasons ( The Feast of the LORD) for they knew already that it would come like a thief and if you know a thief is coming do you let them come? NO you know they are coming so you prepare for them. When he says like labour pains it means sudden, without warning. They will not be caught like that cause they are in the light and not in the dark about the true Messiah, not the one that has been made up to fit our pagan religious system. What do they teach you in religion peace and safety? If you go to church you will be okay? is that the way you think YAHSHUA taught? NO HE said keep the Torah keep the commandments. All we have to do is read them to understand them, dear brothers and sisters if we don't start to understand the Feast of the LORD we will be in darkness when HE comes,,the hour no man knows and that is the same as how no man knows the beginning of the Biblical year or the Feast dates until the new moon is sighted in Israel. And who controls the moon? It has been this way for as long as they have been there, but none of us know these things. We have been brought up in a system that does not tell us what we need to hear but what will get people in seats and smiles on faces. These verses are talking about being ready and understanding what is before us in our Scripture. YAHSHUA broke most of their laws(rabbinic laws) and that is why they killed HIM. HE taught that the Temple is not the Spirit the Spirit is alive in you not so building. He taught that the FATHER is alive in you. Little did they know it was all planned. If satan had known killing HIM was the will of YAHWAH, he would have tried to keep HIM as safe as possible. Remember the verse that talks about YAHSHUA being tempted and when satan said look see all the kingdoms of the world, i will give them to you if you kneel before me. YAHSHUA never argued that he didn't have the power to give them to HIM. HE just turned it down. From the second man fell he handed the deed to this world over to satan and this world is his brothers and sisters until YAHSHUA breaks the seals and reclaims what is in the hands of satan and his angels. So beware what you call HIS celebration and please get out and learn about the Feast of the LORD, read your Scripture for yourself stop letting preachers guide you into believing lies. They may not mean to it is just what they are taught too. Read Leviticus 23 for yourself pray and ask the HOLY SPIRIT to guide you not men. I beg you to listen to YAHWAH and come back to the Torah( the instructions) with all my love and prayers for your well being may the peace of YAHWAH our ELOHIM be with you always
importance in knowing the Feast of the LORD--I THINK YOU ALL SHOULD READ THIS
Posted : 20 Dec, 2009 12:41 AM
Yes my brother, as we advance towards the fulfillment of time, we need to be as stedfast and faithful as the early saints, when it come to remaining loyal to the gospel of Jesus Christ and his holy apostles.
What is popular is not always right, and what is right is not always popular.
importance in knowing the Feast of the LORD--I THINK YOU ALL SHOULD READ THIS
Posted : 20 Dec, 2009 10:00 PM
dear Devotedlove47
you are awesome and i love you!!!! sorry for any harsh words that have been thrown your way,, it was not my mission to argue about the law i had never said once that the law and only the law would save anyone,,but i do think it was funny that one comment said if you want to be really sure then follow the example that JESUS gave hahaha this is funny because YAHSHUA kept every one of the Feast and never said that we should not keep them,,so that's what this whole thing was about to get people to start to look in the direction of learning the Scriptures from a Hebrew perspective,, the origin of the Scriptures were Hebrew and so i thought i would try to get people maybe thinking about researching them a little by putting up a post about them,,i did not enjoy talking to this guy manofgod because he seemed to not be reading what i was saying and yes it seems like he is only out to prove his doctrine,,it sounds so well rehearsed,,but here i am again talking about him,,,so i just wanted to say hi and that i read the what you wrote and that you are awesome and the verses you presented are great,,thank you and may the peace of YAHWAH be with you always dear brother
importance in knowing the Feast of the LORD--I THINK YOU ALL SHOULD READ THIS
Posted : 21 Dec, 2009 07:18 AM
Dear icebro,
God bless you too my brother. I really enjoy discussing the truths of God's word. To me, that should be the joy of every believer. For it is through the sharing of the word, that we get our edification of the Spirit. We may not see things qiute the same, but if we love Jesus, and we let this truth reign in us, then the peace of God will reign in our hearts as well.
I have much love for all of the saints of God, for we are brothers and sisters in Christ, which should matter the most.
importance in knowing the Feast of the LORD--I THINK YOU ALL SHOULD READ THIS
Posted : 21 Dec, 2009 11:41 AM
Well, I know Jesus kept the feasts...but something ended at the cross. Jesus cried out "it is finished" and the veil in the temple was torn in two, signifying that God's favor no longer rested with the Jews only. The sacrificial system and everything that went with it was done away with, because Jesus is now our sacrifice once and for all. There's nothing wrong with keeping feasts, but to say it is a requirement for salvation....or that somehow it makes people more holy then someone else that doesn't keep them IS wrong. So...when I said "walk like Jesus walked" I was talking about the moral law. Not the ceremonial one. It is no longer required that men be circumcised, no longer required that we keep the feasts, no longer required that we sacrifice animals. That's the ceremonial law. Fulfilled at the cross. The moral law is still around. It's God character interpreted so humans can understand it. It's perfect. We're not able to achieve perfection, but we are supposed to strive for it. Striving for it builds God's character in us, and grace covers all our failures.
importance in knowing the Feast of the LORD--I THINK YOU ALL SHOULD READ THIS
Posted : 23 Dec, 2009 08:19 AM
Hey Mark,
That was very well stated. Hey icebro take a look at these verses, I believe they might help you to understand what we beleive and why.
14:1 Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations.
14:2 For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.
14:3 Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him.
14:4 Who art thou that judgest another man�s servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.
14:5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
14:6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.
14:7 For none of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself.
14:8 For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lord�s.
14:9 For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living.
14:10 But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.
14:11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.
14:12 So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.
14:13 Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother�s way.
Rom. 14 : 1-13
4:4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his
Son, made of a woman, made under the law,?
4:5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the
adoption of sons.
4:6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son
into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.
4:7 Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then
an heir of God through Christ.
4:8 Howbeit then, when ye knew not God, ye did service unto them
which by nature are no gods.
4:9 But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of
God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements,
whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage?
4:10 Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years.
4:11 I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labor in vain.
4:12 Brethren, I beseech you, be as I am; for I am as ye are: ye have not
injured me at all.
Gal. 4 : 4-12
2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain
deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world,
and not after Christ.
2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
2:10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality
and power:
2:11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made
without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by
the circumcision of Christ:
2:12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him
through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him
from the dead.
2:13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your
flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all
trespasses;
2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us,
which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to
his cross;
2:15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of
them openly, triumphing over them in it.
2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of
an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
Col. 2 : 8-17
2:23 And it came to pass, that he went through the corn fields on the
sabbath day; and his disciples began, as they went, to pluck the
ears of corn.
2:24 And the Pharisees said unto him, Behold, why do they on the
sabbath day that which is not lawful?
2:25 And he said unto them, Have ye never read what David did, when
he had need, and was an hungred, he, and they that were with him?
2:26 How he went into the house of God in the days of Abiathar the
high priest, and did eat the shewbread, which is not lawful to eat
but for the priests, and gave also to them which were with him?
2:27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not
man for the sabbath:
2:28 Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.
3:1 And he entered again into the synagogue; and there was a man there
which had a withered hand.
3:2 And they watched him, whether he would heal him on the sabbath
day; that they might accuse him.
3:3 And he saith unto the man which had the withered hand, Stand
forth.
3:4 And he saith unto them, Is it lawful to do good on the sabbath
days, or to do evil? to save life, or to kill? But they held their
peace.
3:5 And when he had looked round about on them with anger, being
grieved for the hardness of their hearts, he saith unto the man,
Stretch forth thine hand. And he stretched it out: and his hand was
restored whole as the other.
Mark 2 : 23-28, 3 : 1-4
I hope this is helpful to you in your efforts to understanding why we
beleive the way we do concerning Feast days, and the sabbaths.
importance in knowing the Feast of the LORD--I THINK YOU ALL SHOULD READ THIS
Posted : 24 Dec, 2009 01:57 PM
no brother it does not help what so ever,,the thing that you are forgetting is that when Sha'ul talks about the law he is talking about the rabbinic law called takkanots these were laws that were added to the original commandments that enslaved the people to do many crazy things like laws on which shoe they put on first there was even a law against making mud and spiting in your hand on the Sabbath,,they said these law override YAHWAHs laws,,Sha'ul kept the Feast,,and when he is talking about food and clean and unclean and circumcision and uncircumcision he is speaking of the Jews and the Gentiles, all are clean after the death of YAHSHUA,,Sha'ul never says not to keep the Torah as fact if he does then the Scriptures contradict each other,,and we both know that is not true,,YAHSHUA kept the Feast he did away with no Torah,,and there has never been one person saved by anything but faith and grace even beofre the death of YAHSHUA,,he frees us from having to live under the law of man,,not the law of YAHWAH,,the Feast as it says in one of the verses you posted that the Feast are shadows of what is to come,,that is why it is important to know them,,if you keep them or not is up to you and YAHWAH,,no one can judge another man for the things he eats it is not what you eat that defiles you but it is what you speak for sure,,Sha'ul spoke many times about false teaching even in those times and he constantly tried to bring people back to the Torah,,my brother i do not get it but i understand why you believe the way you do,i did too,,it has been taught to you to believe that these Scriptures say things like you claim they do but you have to know the context in which they are said, you have to learn the Hebrew side of things in order to find out what they mean,,Sha'ul was a Pharisee he lived under this law that enslaves, from birth, but because of it he had studied under the most respected rabbi of the time (which is not really true cause the greatest Rabbi of all time is YAHSHUA) but any way he was big and Sha'ul studied under him,,that meant that Sha'ul had memorized the entire Torah by the time he was 20 he was very knowledgeable in the Torah but still he was teaching and walking falsely and persecuting believers in YAHSHUA so when his eyes were opened he had great understanding of the slavery the people were under and how to get free from it by following the teaching of MESSIAH YAHSHUA,,,the Scriptures Sha'ul used to teach with were the Torah they had no new testament at that time,,,i love you brother and i publicly say that i am very sorry for any thing i have written that was not out of love to you and to the mann of god guy and i am truly about to be in tears because i see the same things that Sha'ul saw,,the slavery that people are under when they misunderstand the Scriptures,,we are under the Torah we were set free from having to sacrifice for sins cause YAHSHUA died for that and i never want to take anything that HE did away from HIM or say that it did not mean anything and that we should live under total law of man,,we should live as YAHSHUA did listening to the FATHER and keeping HIS Feast they are important to understand the prophecies of the end times,,i love you all and i want nothing but you to try and search the Torah for truth,,look up a guy name Scot Dryer he gives great insight about the Hebrew roots of the Scriptures get some back ground info and then go out on your own and learn for yourself get some understanding of it first and please stop with the christmas don't you see that it was pagan from origin if it was the other way around i would see it,, if it was something of YAHSHUA first then became pagan but it was not,,, it was pagan then man disguises it to be of YAHSHUA but it is not,,so look it up brother by no means will works get you to Heaven ,,YAHSHUA will though peace be with you always brother
