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1 Peter1 What does "Elect" and "Foreknowledge" really mean?
Posted : 7 Dec, 2009 11:23 AM

Here is another article addressing the bad English translation due to Calvinistic bias of the translators. This is also a very important article and well worth the time to read and study it.



http://www.pfrs.org/commentary/1Peter1_1.pdf



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Walter

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1 Peter1 What does "Elect" and "Foreknowledge" really mean?
Posted : 13 Dec, 2009 04:44 AM

But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: and I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, and no one shall snatch them out of my hand.



My Father, who has given them unto me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand.



Ephesians 1:11-14 is saying that once we "believe" we are "sealed" with the Holy Spirit, a promise of our inheritance, a possession of God. This sealing has a finality to it, a promise that we will stay His.



In whom also we were made a heritage, having been foreordained according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his will; to the end that we should be unto the praise of his glory, we who had before hoped in Christ: in whom ye also, having heard the word of the truth, the gospel of your salvation in whom, having also believed, ye were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, which is an earnest of our inheritance, unto the redemption of God's own possession, unto the praise of his glory.



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Steve

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Posted : 13 Dec, 2009 05:01 AM

"When Rebekah had conceived children by one man, our forefather Isaac, though they were not yet born and had done nothing either good or bad�in order that God�s purpose of election might continue, not because of works but because of him who calls� she was told, 'The older will serve the younger.' As it is written, "Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.'



What shall we say then? Is there injustice on God�s part? By no means! For he says to Moses, 'I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.' So then it depends not on human will or exertion, but on God, who has mercy. For the Scripture says to Pharaoh,'For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I might show my power in you, and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.' So then he has mercy on whomever he wills, and he hardens whomever he wills.



You will say to me then, 'Why does he still find fault? For who can resist his will?' But who are you, O man, to answer back to God? Will what is molded say to its molder, 'Why have you made me like this?' Has the potter no right over the clay, to make out of the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for dishonorable use? What if God, desiring to show his wrath and to make known his power, has endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, in order to make known the riches of his glory for vessels of mercy, which he has prepared beforehand for glory� even us whom he has called, not from the Jews only but also from the Gentiles?"



-Romans 9:10-24

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1 Peter1 What does "Elect" and "Foreknowledge" really mean?
Posted : 15 Dec, 2009 02:49 PM

We all have to agree on something are brother Steve can quote the word oh so well.Dennis:waving:

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1 Peter1 What does "Elect" and "Foreknowledge" really mean?
Posted : 16 Dec, 2009 05:38 AM

Thanks Dennis



And Id love to have you all over for pizza,LOL



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Steve

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1 Peter1 What does "Elect" and "Foreknowledge" really mean?
Posted : 16 Dec, 2009 11:09 AM

Sweet! I like a little misinterpretation on my pizza!:dancingp:



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Posted : 16 Dec, 2009 04:01 PM

I know that you do!LOL



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Steve

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1 Peter1 What does "Elect" and "Foreknowledge" really mean?
Posted : 16 Dec, 2009 07:20 PM

lol



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Posted : 16 Dec, 2009 08:55 PM

dear folks, thanks guys yawl gave me a good chuckle tonight hehe..

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1 Peter1 What does "Elect" and "Foreknowledge" really mean?
Posted : 17 Dec, 2009 06:41 AM

Hmmmm.....lets see,Ill have to whip up a vegatarian one for Mark......cattle you probably want some kinda cowboy pizza,steak maybe......and Dennis.....what do you want on yours?Cat?Or maybe bear?.......me,Ill just take a good ole pepperoni and cheese pizza......And Walter....I can dunk yours in the river first if you like.....LOl......just kidding walter....



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steve:party:

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Posted : 17 Dec, 2009 06:44 AM

Oh and just kidding about the cat too Dennis,I know you love them little furballs.....I have a cat too.His name is booboo.He is really goofy,I love the little guy....hes really swell....



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steve

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