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homelesschristian View Profile History	🤔🧐 can a christian achieve sinless perfection? ❓❓ Posted : 3 Mar, 2026 06:19 AM No, a Christian cannot achieve sinless perfection; that is, on this side of heaven. Though there are Christians who say they do not sin anymore, they are in error. In order to achieve a sinless state of perfection, the Christian’s motivations would have to be pure and perfect at all times because God looks at the condition of the heart as well as our actions. Consider the following verses. Matthew 5:28, “but I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.“ Matthew 22:37, “And He said to him, “‘YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND.’” Matthew 22:39, “‘The second is like it, ‘YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.’” We see that Jesus taught that the intention of the heart is important to God. This is because God’s heart is perfect. He is holy which is why He says in 1 Peter 1:16, “Be holy, for I am holy.” God is the standard of holiness, and Jesus reveals the necessity of the perfect standard. Can any Christian say that his heart is perfect and that he never falters? That he never looks upon a woman with impure thoughts? That he loves the Lord God with all of his heart, and that he loves his neighbor as himself, all with a perfect state of mind? The standard is absolute purity. None of us can claim that. But there are those who say the Bible says we do not sin. 1 John 3:6, “No one who abides in Him sins; no one who sins has seen Him or knows Him.” 1 John 3:9, “No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.” 1 John 5:18, “We know that no one who is born of God sins; but He who was born of God keeps him, and the evil one does not touch him.” The Bible is not saying that we don’t sin. Those verses in 1 John are talking about abiding in sin. That is not what Christians do. In fact, 1 John earlier in the same epistle states the following. 1 John 1:8, “If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us.” 1 John 2:1, “My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous.” Notice that John the apostle includes himself in the issue of sinning. Are the sinless perfectionist people more holy than John the apostle? I think not. So, a Christian is to struggle against his sin and to see this before God. But we cannot say that every intention of our hearts is always perfect and pure. If it were, we would not need an intercessor before God once we are saved. The idea of sinless perfectionism is an error that is refuted by Scripture Post Reply
WalkNTalk View Profile History	🤔🧐 can a christian achieve sinless perfection? ❓❓ Posted : 3 Mar, 2026 07:53 AM Yes, anyone is stupid to write on these posts to you, ML. Post Reply
WalkNTalk View Profile History	🤔🧐 can a christian achieve sinless perfection? ❓❓ Posted : 3 Mar, 2026 07:53 AM HC and I are very stupid to write you. Wise people don't write you. Post Reply
WalkNTalk View Profile History	🤔🧐 can a christian achieve sinless perfection? ❓❓ Posted : 3 Mar, 2026 07:54 AM Wise people leave the site because you are here. Post Reply
WalkNTalk View Profile History	🤔🧐 can a christian achieve sinless perfection? ❓❓ Posted : 3 Mar, 2026 07:55 AM You are the best example of what the site has to offer. Old divorced women. Post Reply
Handyman62 View Profile History	🤔🧐 can a christian achieve sinless perfection? ❓❓ Posted : 3 Mar, 2026 07:57 AM I disagree WNT because wise people should fight the good fight anywhere. That's why you and I are here. We must fight against the likes of Satan followers like the stench. Post Reply

Handyman62 View Profile History	🤔🧐 can a christian achieve sinless perfection? ❓❓ Posted : 3 Mar, 2026 07:59 AM But I do agree that we shouldn't address the stench directly. But I do believe we should to continue to point out her folly. Post Reply
WalkNTalk View Profile History	🤔🧐 can a christian achieve sinless perfection? ❓❓ Posted : 3 Mar, 2026 08:00 AM ML, you have always had interest in HC and me. Right now, we are all that you type about. Before it was HC and LD, and you loved to write them. LD divorced you, and now here I am to replace him so you again have two men you love so dearly and write of so often. Post Reply
Handyman62 View Profile History	🤔🧐 can a christian achieve sinless perfection? ❓❓ Posted : 3 Mar, 2026 08:08 AM WNT if you address the stench directly all you do is start an argument. Do you really want to get down in her excrement and wrestle in her stinky pigsty? Post Reply
WalkNTalk View Profile History	🤔🧐 can a christian achieve sinless perfection? ❓❓ Posted : 3 Mar, 2026 09:19 AM Thanks HM! But if I were absent for 3 years, she'd still be arguing with me. Post Reply
WalkNTalk View Profile History	🤔🧐 can a christian achieve sinless perfection? ❓❓ Posted : 3 Mar, 2026 09:26 AM Mud wrestling with a woman, WOW! That is something to be contemplated. But I would not want to mud wrestle with ML, and the women I would like to mud wrestle with would probably kill me. So, it is better that I totally refrain from mud wrestling. But a pie fight! Now that would be nice! Post Reply