Thread: ππ―π let's fix this once and for all in regards to the Christmas tree being prohibited by Jeremiah 10
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ππ―π let's fix this once and for all in regards to the Christmas tree being prohibited by Jeremiah 10
Posted : 27 Dec, 2021 02:14 PM
dear readers unfortunately we still have these legalists every Christmas season who refuse to turn their Bibles right side up when reading it
as the late great Dr Walter Martin founder of the Christian researcher institute an author of many apologetics books once said
" a text without its context is a pretext "
Here's another example of poor hermeneutics by dom_64 to attempt to demonstrate that Christmas trees are pagan and an abomination to God
" In Jeremiah 10:2-4 the Word of God says, "Thus saith the Lord, Learn not the way of the heathen....For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not " dom_64 ( the female teddy bugs )
βΉοΈπ―π FALSE ββ
ππ―π Now for the TRUTH
Jeremiah mocked the idolatry of Judah, especially as it imitated the idolatry of the surrounding nations. Similar passages mocking the idolatry of the heathen are found in Isaiah 40:18-20 and 44:9-20. Yet, itβs difficult to read this description and condemnation of an ancient pagan custom and ππ not immediately think of the custom of the Christmas tree as practiced in the modern Christian world
ii. based on a passage like this a Christian would be convinced that they should not have a Christmas tree or even celebrate Christmas, then they should stand in that conviction. It is good to remember what Paul wrote: whatever is not from faith is sin (Romans 14:23).
iii. Nevertheless, there are many reasons to believe that despite some similarities, the differences are even greater and ππ do not prohibit the modern custom of the Christmas tree.
Β· Jeremiah spoke regarding the customs of the Gentiles, and in the modern world ππ the appropriate celebration of Christmas is an expression of belief in God and His Son, not a custom of unbelievers
Β· Jeremiah spoke of believers borrowing customs of unbelievers; in the modern world, when an unbeliever has a Christmas tree ππ it is a case of unbelievers borrowing the customs of believers
Β· Jeremiah spoke of a tree regarded as an idol, and (properly understood) the modern Christmas tree is ππ π« NOT an idol. If for a family it is or becomes an idol, it should be discarded with.
Β· Jeremiah spoke to a time in history when trees were often directly connected with idolatry, either literal trees or their representations (Jeremiah 2:27)
Germany is credited with starting the Christmas tree tradition as we now know it in the 16th century when devout Christians brought decorated trees into their homes
π€π€π€ͺπ€ͺ does anybody know of anybody that's bowed down to a Christmas tree thereby committing idolatry ββ of course not that's just plain SILLY π€ͺπ€ͺπ€£π€£π€£π€£π€£π€£
ππ trying to use Jeremiah 10 as a pro theological argument to denounce Christmas trees as pagan practices makes as about as much sense as the Quakers who don't use electricity because they think in some way shape or form that modern technology is evil π‘πππ
ππ a lot of us love quaker oats for breakfast in the morning π₯£ and the good old electric powered microwave helps us do it and likewise with our Christmas trees that help us appreciate the birth of our Lord God and Savior Jesus Christ this time of year -- I'm sure most of you will agree ππ―π
ππ―π let's fix this once and for all in regards to the Christmas tree being prohibited by Jeremiah 10
Posted : 29 Dec, 2021 06:06 PM
Jesus' words are the same yesterday today and forever, however, Jesus had no blood and was full of holes when he arose from the dead. Can you live without blood? Nope. Flesh and blood can not enter the kingdom of heaven 1st Cor 15:50. Jesus showed the apostles in Luke 24. Jesus' was a new creation a new creature no longer the flesh and blood Mary gave him. Jesus in John 6:63 told people his flesh means nothing it is his words which are spirit and life that matter and not his person. Jesus was a dead man walking and breathing not by Mary but by the spirit of God. Acts 4:9-11.
John 6:63] It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
Luke 24:36] And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.
[37] But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit.
[38] And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts?
[39] Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
[40] And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands and his feet.
1st Cor 15:41] There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.
[42] So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
[43] It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
[44] It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
[45] And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
[46] Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
[47] The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.
[48] As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
[49] And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.
[50] Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
[51] Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
[52] In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
[53] For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
[54] So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
Acts 4:9] If we this day be examined of the good deed done to the impotent man, by what means he is made whole;
[10] Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.
[11] This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.
ππ―π let's fix this once and for all in regards to the Christmas tree being prohibited by Jeremiah 10
Posted : 29 Dec, 2021 08:18 PM
no-conscience-david posts - QUOTE - 'Nobody sayinβ EVERYBODY has to >celebrate Christ< on a formerly pagan holiday. NOBODY SAYINβ βΌοΈ
So readers, what is the NOBODY in truth tinydavid saying BUTTTTTTT not saying??? Note how he leaves out the CONTEXT to the subject which is about 'celebrating Christ >>>BIRTH<<< ON A PAGAN 'HOLIDAY" which IS a MODERN FEAST DAY for pagans that ORIGINATED in the worship of the SUN god BAAL born a new on december 21st (NEW SUN or length of DAYS begin getting longer!) and moved to the 25th by authority of the cathoholic 'church' because they WORSHIP the SUN! Anyone can look up these facts!
AND ALL THE WORLD WONDERS AFTER THE BEAST, the cathoholic 'church' because they WORSHIP the SUN!!!
So no-conscience-david tries to confuse readers (and himself! ) that it is 'to celebrate Christ on a formerly pagan holiday' when the FACT of the matter is 'to celebrate Christ BIRTH on a formerly pagan holiday' all based on a LIE that He was even BORN in that month and certainly not in the Biblical MOONTH time of year!
SOOOOOOOO then no-conscience-david also posts - 'SO WHY NOT just CELEBRATE JESUS EVVVEEERRRYYY DAYβΌοΈβΌοΈβΌοΈβΌοΈ psssst, even at christ-MAS'(S) time (TIMING of the event! ) like the cathoholic 'church' does with BOOZE and 'communion' !!!???
So no-conscience-david, why don't YOU get off your high SATANIC LIE of a horse and TELL other people the truth about this LIE that Christ was even born in december or not! Do you 'celebrate' your PAGAN birthday 2 or 3 'months' late and tell others wellllllll - WHY NOT just CELEBRATE MY BIRTHDAY EVVVEEERRRYYY DAYβΌοΈβΌοΈβΌοΈβΌοΈ
Your right about one thing though about the 'pagan holiday' and how it was 'formerly' created by sinful men and MODERNLY kept to this day! 10-4 over and out!