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Posted : 25 Sep, 2019 02:49 PM

The KJV is a MAJORITY text. Translated from the Ben Chayyim Hebrew Masoretic Text.

The MINORITY text, translated from the Rudolf Kittel is corrupted.

http://www.ecclesia.org/truth/m-m.html

It is a fact that ENTIRE passages have been removed in the MINORITY text based off the Rudolf Kittel revised Masoretic text in the NIV and other modern translations.

The modern translations have many footnotes indicating changes or some verses will be missing or demoted .

Let me ask you , is that not confusing ? Does that make you question the very WORD of God that he exalts above his very NAME? Psalm 138:2

No wonder! Satan first questioned the WORD of God in the garden...Hath God said???

2 Timothy 3:16 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:17 that the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

To this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit and trembles at My word.”

Isaiah 66:2.

Bible hub -"Through is blood" missing in Colossians 1:14!

https://biblehub.com/colossians/1-14.htm

That is just ONE example!

Doesn't look to be a "conspiracy" if it is proven!

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Posted : 30 Sep, 2019 07:36 PM

Corrupted NEW KJV , the marijuana (gateway) bible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PunuZATpVXU&list=PLhmAbEGx-AnSP2aqZxjhjjVmbd1A1dDXQ&index=5



Maybe this is why there is SO much confusion over translations in general!

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Posted : 30 Sep, 2019 09:00 PM

There are certainly some errors in all of the translations of God's Word in the Koine Greek which is inspired by God. By far the worst example is: After Mark 16:8 all of the major translations **EXCEPT THE KING JAMES VERSION** have a footnote which reads: "The earliest manuscripts and some other ancient witnesses do not have Mark 16:9-20."



And Mark 16:16-18: Wrongly states: "Whoever believes and is **BAPTIZED WILL BE SAVED** .... And these signs will accompany those who believe: In My name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues; they will pick up snakes with their hands, and they will **DRINK DEADLY POISON, it will not hurt them at all; they will **PLACE THEIR HANDS** on sick people, and they will get well??"



By comparing other Scripture with these mistakes we know that Baptismal Regeneration is wrong and even in the early church not every saint spoke in other languages. and there is not one other Scripture that tells us to **DRINK DEADLY POISON** and to **PICK UP SNAKES** some of which are deadly. There is also a Scripture which contradicts **PLACING HANDS ON SICK PEOPLE WILL MAKE THEM WELL** in James 5:14,15!



Of course those denominations which believe in Baptismal Regeneration and many Charismatic churches believe these verses are the inspired words of God thus agreeing with the KJV version???



And so the KJV version is the only version that implies that the extremely Satanic Mark 16:16-18 are the inspired Words of God. The KJV version is also written in 16th Century English which is very hard for 20th Century Christians to understand.



The origin of the term **EASTER** for the feast of Christ’s Resurrection has been popularly considered to be from the Anglo-Saxon **EASTRE**, a goddess of spring and the evil Queen of Heaven. {Read Jeremiah 44:22-25!}



The KJV version is the only version that translates the Greek word **PASCHA** as **EASTER** in Acts 12:4 and all other major translations correctly translate the Greek word **PASCHA** as **PASSOVER**!! {Read Jeremiah 44::22-25!}



"The earliest manuscripts and some other ancient witnesses do not have Mark 16:9-20." Which the KJV version claims is the inspired Word of God???



The KJV defenders also quote Colossians 1:14 which includes the blood of Christ in the KJV version and in all the other major translations the blood of Christ is not mentioned in Colossians 1:14. However the KJV version includes many verses which are not used in the most ancient manuscripts and which are rightfully not accepted by all the other major translations.



However, the blood of Christ for the forgiveness of sins is mentioned many times in the earliest Greek manuscripts and translated in easy to understand 20th Century English, such as:



Matthew 26:28: Jesus says, "This is **MY BLOOD** of the covenant, which is poured out for many **FOR THE FORGIVENESS OF SINS**!"



Hebrews 9:12: He entered the Most Holy Place once for all by **HIS OWN BLOOD**, having obtained **ETERNAL REDEMPTION**!



Hebrews 9:22; 26-28: The law requires that nearly everything be cleansed with **BLOOD**, and without the shedding of **BLOOD** **THERE IS NO FORGIVENESS**.... But now He has appeared **ONCE FOR ALL** at the end of the ages to do away with sin **BY THE SACRIFICE OF HIMSELF**!! Just as man is destined to die once, and after that to face judgment, and Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many people, and He will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for Him!!



Ephesians 2:13: But now in Christ Jesus you who were once were far away have been brought near **THROUGH THE BLOOD OF CHRIST**!!



Romans 3:21-25: But now a righteousness from God, **APART FROM THE LAW**, has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. This righteousness from God comes **THROUGH FAITH** in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified freely by **HIS GRACE** through the **REDEMPTION** that came by Christ Jesus. God presented Him as a **SACRIFICE OF ATONEMENT**, **THROUGH FAITH IN HIS BLOOD**!!



Colossians 1:15-20: He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For by Him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities, all things were created by Him and for Him. He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together. And He is the **HEAD OF HIS BODY, THE CHURCH**; He is the beginning and the firstborn from the dead, so that is **EVERYTHING HE MIGHT HAVE THE SUPREMACY**. For God was pleased to have all His fullness dwell in Him, and through Him to reconcile to Himself all things, whether things **ON EARTH** or things in heaven, by making peace **THROUGH HIS BLOOD**, shed on the cross!!



Ephesians 1:3-8; 11: Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in the heavenly realms with **EVERY** spiritual blessing in Christ. For He chose us in Him before the creation of the world to be holy and **BLAMELESS** in His sight. In love He predestined us to be adopted as His sons through Jesus Christ, in accordance with His pleasure and will--to the praise of His **GLORIOUS GRACE**, which He has freely given us in the One He loves. In Him we have **REDEMPTION THROUGH HIS BLOOD**, **THE FORGIVENESS OF SINS**, in accordance the riches of God's grace that He lavished on us with all wisdom and understanding!!



I Peter 1:18,19: For you know that was not with perishable things such as silver or gold that you were **REDEEMED** from the empty way of life handed down to you by your forefathers, but with the **PRECIOUS BLOOD OF CHRIST**, Lamb without blemish or defect!!



Revelation 1:4,5: Grace and peace to you from Him who is, and who was, and who is to come and from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful Witness... To Him who loves us and freed us from our sins **BY HIS BLOOD**!!



NOTE: Jesus Christ our Savior is called the **LAMB** of God **30 TIMES** in the book of Revelation because He did away with all lamb sacrifices for sin by the sacrifice of Himself!!



Revelation 5:6,9: Then I saw a **LAMB**, looking as if it had been slain, standing in the center of the throne...You are worthy to take the scroll and to open its seals because You were slain, and **WITH YOUR BLOOD** You purchased men for God from every tribe and language and people and nation!!



Revelation 12:11: They overcame him by the **BLOOD OF THE LAMB** and by the word of their testimony; they did not love their lives so much as to shrink from death!!



Revelation 7:14: These are they who have come out of the Great Tribulation, they have was their robes and made them white in the **BLOOD OF THE LAMB**!!



Romans 5:6-10: You see, at just the right time, when we were still powerless. Christ died for the ungodly. Very rarely will anyone die for a righteous man, though for a good man someone might possibly dare to die. But God demonstrates His love for us in this: While we were still sinners Christ died for us. Since we are now justified **BY HIS BLOOD**, how much more will we be saved from God's wrath through Him! When we were God's enemies, we were reconciled to Him **THROUGH THE DEATH OF HIS SON**!!

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Posted : 1 Oct, 2019 05:26 PM

I believe Roman Catholicism and their priesthood are more irrelevant than they are relevant in terms of textual criticism.



Some Roman Catholics think their “church” has been around for 2000 years. Some people believe this because early Christians were “catholic” but they were “catholic” only in the sense they belong the “universal” church. So the early church was a >>universal<< ie “catholic” church not a Roman Catholic Church



Roman Catholicism hijacked the term “catholic” thus muddling up (equivocating) the term. Early believers WERE NOT part of the Roman Catholic system that developed much later.



Many copies of biblical texts were in circulation long before the evolution of Roman Catholicism.

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Posted : 1 Oct, 2019 09:00 PM

Little David: William Bell and Preston were both 7th Day Adventists. It is interesting to note that KJVonly also believes many other doctrines of the 7th Day Adventists; such as obeying about half of the OT Sabbath Laws and the KJV only Bible and the belief in Annihilation rather than eternal hell. The 7th Day Adventists is the only protestant denomination that believes in Preterism which believes that every Bible Prophecy in the New Testament including Revelation was entirely completed by an **EARTHLY** Kingdom in AD 70.



About 80 percent of the Roman Catholics also believe in a different form of Preterism since they also believe in an **EARTHLY** Kingdom of God headed by Roman Catholic Popes which began in Ad 65 when Peter died and was succeeded by Roman Catholic Popes as the head of an **EARTHLY** Kingdom of God. And in the future they believe that Roman Catholic Popes will rule the entire *EARTHLY**world from Rome.



KJVonly: Can you explain how the Preterists teach that the following prophecies in God's Word took place in AD 70?? Actually every prophecy listed below absolutely contradicts the Preterism heresy which **ADDS** OR **TAKES WORDS AWAY** FROM THE PROPHECIES IN REVELATION AND GOD'S WORD.



Revelation 22 :16,18,19: "I, Jesus, have sent My angel to give you this testimony **FOR THE CHURCHES**!... I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone **ADDS* anything to them, God will add them the plagues described in this book. {Which would include eternal hell in Rev 14:9-11} And if anyone **TAKES WORDS AWAY** from this book of prophecy, God will take from that person any share in the Tree of Life and in the Holy City {The eternal New Jerusalem}, which are described in this book!"



Matthew 24:29-31: Immediately after the distress of those {1260} days the sun will be darkened and the moon will not give its light and the **STARS WILL FALL** from the sky! {Luke 21:28 adds "When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near!"} Then will ***APPEAR*** the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. and then all the {Unsaved} peoples of the earth will mourn when the see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. And He will send His angels with a loud {7th & Last} trumpet call, and the will gather **HIS ELECT** from the 4 winds, from one end of heavens to the other!" {Mark 13:27 adds "From the ends of the earth!"}



Matthew 25:31-34,41,46: Jesus prophesied, "**WHEN** the Son of Man comes in His glory {In Matt 24:30-31 above}, and all the angels with Him, He will sit on His glorious throne. All the nations will be gathered before Him, an He will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates his sheep from the goats. He will put the sheep on His right and the goats on His left. **THEN** the King will say to those on his right. Come, you are blessed by My Father ; take your inheritance , the Kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world... "Then He will say to those on His left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the Devil and his angels....**THEN** they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life!"



2 Peter 3:10-13: But the Day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will DISAPPEAR with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and *EVERYTHING* in it will be burned up . Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives as you {**CHURCH SAINTS*} wait eagerly for the Day of God to come. That Day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat. But in keeping with His promise **WE** {Excluding the Preterists like KJVonly} are looking forward to a New heavens and a New Earth, the home of righteousness.



I Corinthians 15:50--51: I declare to you brothers, that flesh and blood CANNOT INHERIT the *KINGDOM OF GOD*... Listen I tell you a mystery: we will not all sleep, but we will all be changed, in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet."



John 18:36: Jesus says, "My *KINGDOM* is not of this world....But now, my Kingdom is from another place!!"



Matthew 25:31-34: Jesus says, "When the Son of Man comes in His glory , and all the angels with Him, He will sit on His throne in heavenly glory. All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate the people one from another..He will put the sheep on the right and the goats on His left. Then the King will say to those on His right, "Come you who are blessed of My Father, take your inheritance, the *KINGDOM* prepared for you!!"



**WE** ARE ALL WAITING FOR THE NEW EARTH, THE NEW HEAVENS AND THE HEAVENLY NEW JERUSALEM!!



Revelation 21:1-5: Then I saw a New heaven and a New Earth, for the {present} first heaven and first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. I saw the Holy City, the **NEW JERUSALEM**, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "Now the dwelling of God is with men, and He will live with them. They will be His people, and God Himself will be with them. They will be His people, and God Himself will be with them and be their God. He will wipe every tear from their eyes, There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away." He who was seated on the throne said, "I am making **EVERYTHING NEW**!" Then He said, "Write this down, for these words are TRUSTWORTHY and TRUE!"



Galatians 4:25,26: Now Hagar stands for Mount Sinai in Arabia and corresponds to the present city of Jerusalem, because she is in slavery with her children. But the **JERUSALEM** that is **ABOVE** is free, and she is our MOTHER !!



Revelation 22:1-5: Then the angel showed me the river of the Water of Life, as clear as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and the Lamb {Jesus} down the middle of the great street of the City. On each side of the river stood the Tree of Life, bearing 12 crops of fruit, yielding its fruit every month... The throne of God and of the **LAMB** will be in the City, and his servants will serve Him. They will see His face and His name will be on their foreheads. There will be no more night!! They will not need the light of the lamp or the light of the sun, for the Lord God will give them light. And they will reign **FOR EVER AND EVER**. The angel said to me, “These words are TRUSTWORTHY and TRUE!!”



JESUS WILL WRITE ON US THE NAME OF THE CITY OF GOD THE **NEW JERUSALEM**!!



Revelation 2:18; 3:12,21: Jesus says, "To him who overcomes I will give him a white stone with a new name written on it, known only to him who receives it... I will write on him the name of the City of My God, the **NEW JERUSALEM**, which is coming down out of heaven from My God....And I will give the right to sit with Me on My throne, just as I overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne."

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Posted : 2 Oct, 2019 10:37 AM

Remember! I am not just ragging on NASB or NIV only. I am also calling to your attention the serious and in my humble opinion ,malicious intent of "new" translations changing the KJV! The modern KJV's are corrupt. I will stick to my authorized version given in 1611, olde english and all! Love the verbiage..

I accept your challenge David to demonstrate a superior text.

I pray you will gain some understanding. This may take a while so stay tuned.

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Posted : 2 Oct, 2019 03:04 PM

There are certainly some errors in all of the translations of God's Word in the Koine Greek which is inspired by God. By far the worst example is: After Mark 16:8 all of the major translations **EXCEPT THE KING JAMES VERSION** have a footnote which reads: "The earliest manuscripts and some other ancient witnesses do not have Mark 16:9-20."



And Mark 16:16-18: Wrongly states: "Whoever believes and is **BAPTIZED WILL BE SAVED** .... And these signs will accompany those who believe: In My name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues; they will pick up snakes with their hands, and they will **DRINK DEADLY POISON, it will not hurt them at all; they will **PLACE THEIR HANDS** on sick people, and they will get well??"



By comparing other Scripture with these mistakes we know that Baptismal Regeneration is wrong and even in the early church not every saint spoke in other languages. and there is not one other Scripture that tells us to **DRINK DEADLY POISON** and to **PICK UP SNAKES** some of which are deadly. There is also a Scripture which contradicts **PLACING HANDS ON SICK PEOPLE WILL MAKE THEM WELL** in James 5:14,15!



Of course those denominations which believe in Baptismal Regeneration and many Charismatic churches believe these verses are the inspired words of God thus agreeing with the KJV version???



And so the KJV version is the only version that implies that the extremely Satanic Mark 16:16-18 are the inspired Words of God. The KJV version is also written in 16th Century English which is very hard for 20th Century Christians to understand.



The origin of the term **EASTER** for the feast of Christ’s Resurrection has been popularly considered to be from the Anglo-Saxon **EASTRE**, a goddess of spring and the evil Queen of Heaven. {Read Jeremiah 44:22-25!}



The KJV version is the only version that translates the Greek word **PASCHA** as **EASTER** in Acts 12:4 and all other major translations correctly translate the Greek word **PASCHA** as **PASSOVER**!! {Read Jeremiah 44::22-25!}



"The earliest manuscripts and some other ancient witnesses do not have Mark 16:9-20." Which the KJV version claims is the inspired Word of God???



The KJV defenders also quote Colossians 1:14 which includes the blood of Christ in the KJV version and in all the other major translations the blood of Christ is not mentioned in Colossians 1:14. However the KJV version includes many verses which are not used in the most ancient manuscripts and which are rightfully not accepted by all the other major translations.



However, the blood of Christ for the forgiveness of sins is mentioned many times in the earliest Greek manuscripts such as:



Matthew 26:28: Jesus says, "This is **MY BLOOD** of the covenant, which is poured out for many **FOR THE FORGIVENESS OF SINS**!"



Hebrews 9:12: He entered the Most Holy Place once for all by **HIS OWN BLOOD**, having obtained **ETERNAL REDEMPTION**!



Hebrews 9:22; 26-28: The law requires that nearly everything be cleansed with **BLOOD**, and without the shedding of **BLOOD** **THERE IS NO FORGIVENESS**.... But now He has appeared **ONCE FOR ALL** at the end of the ages to do away with sin **BY THE SACRIFICE OF HIMSELF**!! Just as man is destined to die once, and after that to face judgment, and Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many people, and He will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for Him!!



Ephesians 2:13: But now in Christ Jesus you who were once were far away have been brought near **THROUGH THE BLOOD OF CHRIST**!!



Romans 3:21-25: But now a righteousness from God, **APART FROM THE LAW**, has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. This righteousness from God comes **THROUGH FAITH** in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified freely by **HIS GRACE** through the **REDEMPTION** that came by Christ Jesus. God presented Him as a **SACRIFICE OF ATONEMENT**, **THROUGH FAITH IN HIS BLOOD**!!



Colossians 1:15-20: He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For by Him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities, all things were created by Him and for Him. He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together. And He is the **HEAD OF HIS BODY, THE CHURCH**; He is the beginning and the firstborn from the dead, so that is **EVERYTHING HE MIGHT HAVE THE SUPREMACY**. For God was pleased to have all His fullness dwell in Him, and through Him to reconcile to Himself all things, whether things **ON EARTH** or things in heaven, by making peace **THROUGH HIS BLOOD**, shed on the cross!!



Ephesians 1:3-8; 11: Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in the heavenly realms with **EVERY** spiritual blessing in Christ. For He chose us in Him before the creation of the world to be holy and **BLAMELESS** in His sight. In love He predestined us to be adopted as His sons through Jesus Christ, in accordance with His pleasure and will--to the praise of His **GLORIOUS GRACE**, which He has freely given us in the One He loves. In Him we have **REDEMPTION THROUGH HIS BLOOD**, **THE FORGIVENESS OF SINS**, in accordance the riches of God's grace that He lavished on us with all wisdom and understanding!!



I Peter 1:18,19: For you know that was not with perishable things such as silver or gold that you were **REDEEMED** from the empty way of life handed down to you by your forefathers, but with the **PRECIOUS BLOOD OF CHRIST**, Lamb without blemish or defect!!



Revelation 1:4,5: Grace and peace to you from Him who is, and who was, and who is to come and from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful Witness... To Him who loves us and freed us from our sins **BY HIS BLOOD**!!



NOTE: Jesus Christ our Savior is called the **LAMB** of God **30 TIMES** in the book of Revelation because He did away with all lamb sacrifices for sin by the sacrifice of Himself!!



Revelation 5:6,9: Then I saw a **LAMB**, looking as if it had been slain, standing in the center of the throne...You are worthy to take the scroll and to open its seals because You were slain, and **WITH YOUR BLOOD** You purchased men for God from every tribe and language and people and nation!!



Revelation 12:11: They overcame him by the **BLOOD OF THE LAMB** and by the word of their testimony; they did not love their lives so much as to shrink from death!!



Revelation 7:14: These are they who have come out of the Great Tribulation, they have was their robes and made them white in the **BLOOD OF THE LAMB**!!



Romans 5:6-10: You see, at just the right time, when we were still powerless. Christ died for the ungodly. Very rarely will anyone die for a righteous man, though for a good man someone might possibly dare to die. But God demonstrates His love for us in this: While we were still sinners Christ died for us. Since we are now justified **BY HIS BLOOD**, how much more will we be saved from God's wrath through Him! When we were God's enemies, we were reconciled to Him **THROUGH THE DEATH OF HIS SON**!!

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Posted : 2 Oct, 2019 06:39 PM

David , Bro..

Let's start here at the beginning:

When the NT writers would quote the OT , they had to >>>translate<<< from Hebrew to Greek because the OT was written in Hebrew but they spoke in Greek. Still with me?

If a translation cannot be infallible, then >>> EVEN THE NEW TESTAMENT IN THE "ORIGINAL GREEK" ISN'T INFALLIBLE,<<<< because it contains translations from the Hebrew text!

I believe that with the assistance and leadership of the Holy Spirit in translating from Hebrew to Greek, that He also helped the translators in the King James Version or "Authorized Version" as it was known then. Can we agree David, that both the Hebrew and Greek were compatible even with a vast difference in writing! Not to mention that the Hebrew language is read right to left like the traditional Chinese. Both Hebrew and Greek look like pictographs on the page, especially in the Greek with the Pi, Phi, Psi, Delta and Omega like the Egyptians had their hieroglyphs.

(I love languages, can you tell?- still working on the dialect in the Aramaic Lord's Prayer)

Now here is where it get's REAL interesting...

Grab a scooby snack and get comfy..

Scholars will not understand God's assistance in preserving His Word, which He exalts above his name. Psalm 138:2

For most of them have QUENCHED the Holy Spirit in their own lives by looking to higher education for truth, rather than seeking the Lord's leadership (Jn. 16:13).



The Holy Spirit Who inspired the word of God through "holy men of God" (II Pet. 1:21) is quite capable of guiding His servants to KEEP the words which Jesus told us to keep (Jn. 14:23). In essence, the KJV translators were merely INSTRUMENTS which God used in translating and preserving His word. In fact, they said this themselves in the Dedicatory to the Authorized Version: ". . . . because we are poor instruments to make God's holy truth to be yet more and more known to the people. . . "

One thing to ponder and I saved this for last in this post although I will continue to present more facts later on as we proceed . It is this: The words "translate" and "translated" occur three times in the Bible, and >>>>GOD is the Translator<<<< each time. The scholars insist that the KJV cannot be infallible, because it is "only a translation." Do you suppose that such scholars have checked II Samuel 3:10, Colossians 1:13, and Hebrews 11:5 to see what GOD has to say about translating???

In II Samuel 3:10 we are told that it was God Who >>translated<< Saul's kingdom to David. We are told in Colossians 1:13 that Christians have been >>>translated<<< into the kingdom of Jesus Christ, and Hebrews 11:5 tells us that God >>>translated<<< Enoch that he should not see death. God was the One doing the translating each time. The point is that a translation CAN be >>>perfect<<<, if God is involved in the translating.

I suspect that you found a book by Dr. White called the King James Controversy . Let me just state that the Textus Receptus was the default majority text for hundreds of years until satanic (they were spiritualist associated with Madam Blavatsky, a known occultist) Westcott and Hort decided that all of the new manuscripts that were turning up contained text types or text families and they asserted that the most common form of the new testament text , found predominately in later manuscripts, was the result of an earlier revision. So the TR became in their scholarly view , a secondary form of the text !

So to them , they concluded that the earlier, primitive but more pure (in their opinion) form of the text was to be found in the manuscripts that predated this revision.

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Posted : 2 Oct, 2019 10:52 PM

Some things to also consider is this:

*God is not the author of confusion (I Cor. 14:33)

If all of the versions are the word of God, then where are the "corrupt" and "perverted" versions that we are warned about in II Corinthians 2:17 and Jeremiah 23:36? If everyone is innocent, then where are those who are said to be GUILTY of subtracting from and adding to the word of God (Rev. 22:18-19)? God wouldn't have warned us about Bible perversion if it wasn't going to be a reality.

the One True God has ONE TRUE BOOK.

"Where the word of a king is, there is power: and who may say unto him, What doest thou?" Unlike the modern versions, the KJV was translated under a king. Also King Henry VIII authorized the Great Bible to be published in English after he burned Tyndale at the stake for translating the bible into English . Tyndale's dying words were "Lord, open the king of England's eyes!" So the Lord did at a later perfect time.

*King James was very strict in his instructions regarding the translation. The translators could not use notes or commentaries like in the Geneva bible.

*There is no copyright on the authorized version.

*The KJV produces good fruit.

*God has always allowed His Word to be questioned as in the garden of Eden with the words of the enemy, "Hath God said?"

*The italic words in the KJV actually PROVE that the translators were honest in their work

*We know from I Chronicles 20:5 that he actually slew THE BROTHER OF Goliath. So the KJV translators added the words "the brother of" to II Samuel 21:19. If the Lord had not led them to do so, then II Samuel 21:19 would contradict I Chronicles 20:5 (as it DOES in the New World Translation!).

*Another example is of the Holy Spirit's guiding influence on the KJV translators is found in Psalm 16:8, which says, "I have set the LORD always before me: because he is at my right hand, I shall not be moved." As you can see, the words "he is" are in italics. According to many scholars they should be omitted, but according to the Apostle Peter they should NOT be omitted. Peter quotes Psalm 16:8 in Acts 2:25, and he USES the italicized words! How did the translators know this if the Lord didn't lead them?

* Modern version >>>compare<<<themselves to the KJV!

*Long before the KJV was translated in 1611, In ancient past, it was translated during the Philadelphia church period, which is the best church period of all. It was this church that the Lord Jesus COMMENDED for KEEPING HIS WORD( Rev. 3:8-10)!

*Can anyone >>>prove<<<that it is not the inspired Word of God and therefore not a superior translation?

*The modern "bibles"are supported by two very corrupt fourth century manuscripts, known as the "Vaticanus" and the "Siniaticus.

*The Textus Receptus (received text) from which the King James Bible came can be traced clear back to Antioch, Syria, where the disciples were first called Christians and where Paul and Barnabas taught the word of God for a whole year (Acts 11:26). The other "bibles" do not come from Antioch. They come from Alexandria, Egypt, and from Rome.

*We don't need an Egyptian version, for Egypt is a type of the WORLD in the Bible. No wonder the Alexandrian library burned of which Julius Caesar got the blame when he was pursuing Pompey into Egypt ! LOL

*Then there's the Roman text, also called the "Western Text." We can also do without a Roman "bible", because it was Roman soldiers who nailed our Lord to the cross.

Take the best and dump the rest .

* The best of all is that the KJV exalts the Lord Jesus Christ. The new "bibles" have a very consistent record of attacking the Lord Jesus Christ; so they cannot possibly be "the scriptures" that He said would testify of Him in John 5:39. This reason alone should be enough to convince any true believer, for how could we not become suspicious of the new versions for making such changes?

* Lastly, By perverting the necessary verses which deals with the fundamental doctrines of Christ, the new "bibles" have a >>>>CONTINUOUS ATTACK<<<< launched against our beloved Savior, and this is NOT an overstatement! His Virgin Birth is under attack in Isaiah 7:14, Luke 1:34, and Luke 2:33. His Blood Atonement is under attack in Colossians 1:14, Acts 20:28, Ephesians 1:7, and Revelation 1:5. The Bodily Resurrection is under attack in Acts 1:3, Luke chapter 24, and the last twelve verses of Mark. His Deity is under attack in Acts 10:28, John 9:35, and I Timothy 3:16. The new versions attack the Second Coming in Revelation 11:15, and Titus 2:13, and the list goes on, because the new versions have an extreme bitter animosity toward the Authorized Version and the way it gives the Lord Jesus Christ the preeminent place. Read Genesis 3:15. And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

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Posted : 2 Oct, 2019 10:52 PM

Some things to also consider is this:

*God is not the author of confusion (I Cor. 14:33)

If all of the versions are the word of God, then where are the "corrupt" and "perverted" versions that we are warned about in II Corinthians 2:17 and Jeremiah 23:36? If everyone is innocent, then where are those who are said to be GUILTY of subtracting from and adding to the word of God (Rev. 22:18-19)? God wouldn't have warned us about Bible perversion if it wasn't going to be a reality.

the One True God has ONE TRUE BOOK.

"Where the word of a king is, there is power: and who may say unto him, What doest thou?" Unlike the modern versions, the KJV was translated under a king. Also King Henry VIII authorized the Great Bible to be published in English after he burned Tyndale at the stake for translating the bible into English . Tyndale's dying words were "Lord, open the king of England's eyes!" So the Lord did at a later perfect time.

*King James was very strict in his instructions regarding the translation. The translators could not use notes or commentaries like in the Geneva bible.

*There is no copyright on the authorized version.

*The KJV produces good fruit.

*God has always allowed His Word to be questioned as in the garden of Eden with the words of the enemy, "Hath God said?"

*The italic words in the KJV actually PROVE that the translators were honest in their work

*We know from I Chronicles 20:5 that he actually slew THE BROTHER OF Goliath. So the KJV translators added the words "the brother of" to II Samuel 21:19. If the Lord had not led them to do so, then II Samuel 21:19 would contradict I Chronicles 20:5 (as it DOES in the New World Translation!).

*Another example is of the Holy Spirit's guiding influence on the KJV translators is found in Psalm 16:8, which says, "I have set the LORD always before me: because he is at my right hand, I shall not be moved." As you can see, the words "he is" are in italics. According to many scholars they should be omitted, but according to the Apostle Peter they should NOT be omitted. Peter quotes Psalm 16:8 in Acts 2:25, and he USES the italicized words! How did the translators know this if the Lord didn't lead them?

* Modern version >>>compare<<<themselves to the KJV!

*Long before the KJV was translated in 1611, In ancient past, it was translated during the Philadelphia church period, which is the best church period of all. It was this church that the Lord Jesus COMMENDED for KEEPING HIS WORD( Rev. 3:8-10)!

*Can anyone >>>prove<<<that it is not the inspired Word of God and therefore not a superior translation?

*The modern "bibles"are supported by two very corrupt fourth century manuscripts, known as the "Vaticanus" and the "Siniaticus.

*The Textus Receptus (received text) from which the King James Bible came can be traced clear back to Antioch, Syria, where the disciples were first called Christians and where Paul and Barnabas taught the word of God for a whole year (Acts 11:26). The other "bibles" do not come from Antioch. They come from Alexandria, Egypt, and from Rome.

*We don't need an Egyptian version, for Egypt is a type of the WORLD in the Bible. No wonder the Alexandrian library burned of which Julius Caesar got the blame when he was pursuing Pompey into Egypt ! LOL

*Then there's the Roman text, also called the "Western Text." We can also do without a Roman "bible", because it was Roman soldiers who nailed our Lord to the cross.

Take the best and dump the rest .

* The best of all is that the KJV exalts the Lord Jesus Christ. The new "bibles" have a very consistent record of attacking the Lord Jesus Christ; so they cannot possibly be "the scriptures" that He said would testify of Him in John 5:39. This reason alone should be enough to convince any true believer, for how could we not become suspicious of the new versions for making such changes?

* Lastly, By perverting the necessary verses which deals with the fundamental doctrines of Christ, the new "bibles" have a >>>>CONTINUOUS ATTACK<<<< launched against our beloved Savior, and this is NOT an overstatement! His Virgin Birth is under attack in Isaiah 7:14, Luke 1:34, and Luke 2:33. His Blood Atonement is under attack in Colossians 1:14, Acts 20:28, Ephesians 1:7, and Revelation 1:5. The Bodily Resurrection is under attack in Acts 1:3, Luke chapter 24, and the last twelve verses of Mark. His Deity is under attack in Acts 10:28, John 9:35, and I Timothy 3:16. The new versions attack the Second Coming in Revelation 11:15, and Titus 2:13, and the list goes on, because the new versions have an extreme bitter animosity toward the Authorized Version and the way it gives the Lord Jesus Christ the preeminent place. Read Genesis 3:15. And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

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Posted : 2 Oct, 2019 10:57 PM

Sorry for the double posting. My computer froze.

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