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Why was the sacrifice of Cain not accepted by YHWH
Posted : 28 Aug, 2019 02:58 PM

Hello everyone.

Most people either believe or have been told that Cains sacrifice wasn't accepted because it was without blood.

Actually when we look at the Word of GOD Almighty we find that it was in that was not accepted; because Cain was not accepted by YHWH, his sacrifice also was not accepted.



Genesis 4 verses 1 - 7

Cain and Abel

1 Now the man had relations with his wife Eve, and she conceived and gave birth to Cain, and she said, "I have gotten a manchild with [the help of] the LORD."

2 Again, she gave birth to his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of flocks, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.

3 So it came about in the course of time that Cain brought an offering to the LORD of the fruit of the ground. 4 Abel, on his part also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of their fat portions. And the LORD had regard for Abel and for his offering;

5 but for Cain and for his offering He had no regard. So Cain became very angry and his countenance fell.

6 Then the LORD said to Cain, "Why are you angry? And why has your countenance fallen?

7 "If you do well, will not [your countenance] be lifted up?

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Why was the sacrifice of Cain not accepted by YHWH
Posted : 29 Aug, 2019 12:39 PM

Leviticus 3:17: The Lord says, "This is a lasting ordinance for the generations to come, wherever you live You must **NOT EAT ANY FAT OR BLOOD**!" The New Testament also forbids eating blood in Acts 15:20 an Acts 15:29.



The fat of the land is very different from the fat on meat!'



So this command of God means that you must remove fat on meat before you eat it!!



This means you are to remove all the fat from bacon or any meat that you eat. This would include not eating hamburger meat with any fat and most hamburger meat is sold with 4 percent to 20 percent fat. McDonald's and Wendy's hamburgers would be forbidden since they both have about 7 percent fat !! So if you want to eat hamburger meat you have to grind up some meat with Zero fat!



It is also forbidden to eat any blood and so

all red meat must be cooked to **VERY WELL DONE**!



Fortunately, I prefer barbecued chicken meat so I don't have to worry about eating fat or blood

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Why was the sacrifice of Cain not accepted by YHWH
Posted : 29 Aug, 2019 01:08 PM

Kjv, why do you not post the website your answers are from.

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Why was the sacrifice of Cain not accepted by YHWH
Posted : 29 Aug, 2019 01:10 PM

Kjv, I see that your mind is all over the place, you cannot focus on the subject; How do you bring Calvin into this topic.

Stay focused, grasshopper, breathe into nose, out thru mouth.

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Why was the sacrifice of Cain not accepted by YHWH
Posted : 29 Aug, 2019 01:11 PM

Teddy,by avoiding my question, you show that there is no NEW TORAH LAW during the time of Abel.

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Why was the sacrifice of Cain not accepted by YHWH
Posted : 29 Aug, 2019 01:17 PM

Grace,



Lets see if I have this right in my reasoning. Adam and Eve sinned and for the first time an animal had to die because of their sin.



Yahweh makes the offering for them because they could not get it right when they made veggie skins for themselves because veggies do not bleed.



Yahweh DID establish a sacrificial LAW at that point, when he made one for them, right?



Then Cain and Abel come along and you say there is no TORAH LAW when its obvious they were told to make sacrifices for their sins also.



Would you agree with all of that?



No, I do not agree with you, as you and kjv leave out the the promise of YHWH to Adam and Eve, thus to all of men,women and children.

What promise is that you might ask, read Genesis 3, then ask GOD Almighty about His promise.

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Why was the sacrifice of Cain not accepted by YHWH
Posted : 29 Aug, 2019 01:25 PM

Grace:

Kjv, I see that your mind is all over the place, you cannot focus on the subject; How do you bring Calvin into this topic.

Stay focused, grasshopper, breathe into nose, out thru mouth.

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LMBO! that makes two of you today! Fresh out of Ginkgo-biloba! But I will try to focus.

My Son said that to me the other day...breathe into nose , out through mouth as we were walking downtown and I got winded in the heat.

As to Calvin. They believe in predestination. You suggested Cain was not "predestined". My brain connects dots rapid fire and that is why I am all over the place!!

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Why was the sacrifice of Cain not accepted by YHWH
Posted : 29 Aug, 2019 01:35 PM

Ok Grace

Genesis 3

15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

I guess you are talking about the reference to satan bruising Jesus heel but Jesus wounding his head?

Of course the promise was there as Jesus was slain before the foundation of the world.

God further illustrated His redemption plan when he made clothing for Adam and Eve from animal skins: “… Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins, and clothed them.” This was the first blood sacrifice as a covering for their sin—a picture of what was to come in Jesus Christ, the lamb of God, who would die and be raised from the dead to TAKE AWAY our sins.

Acts 2:23 King James Version (KJV)

23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:

Revelation 13:8 King James Version (KJV)

8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

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Why was the sacrifice of Cain not accepted by YHWH
Posted : 29 Aug, 2019 01:45 PM

**ARE WE ONLY REDEEEMED AND OUR SINS FORGIVEN BY THE PRECIOUS BLOOD OF CHRIST??**



Actually the blood sacrifices of Abel and all the Jews in the Old Testament were only symbolic since we are all saved only by the Blood of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. All blood offerings before the atonement of sins by God alone were just symbolic waiting for the only Divine blood sacrifice that can saves us from our sins/



Hebrews 10:8-10: First He said, "Sacrifices and offerings, burnt offerings and sin offerings You did not desire, nor were You pleased with them," although the law required them to be made. Then He said, "Here I am, I have come to do Your will." He sets aside the first **TO ESTABLISH THE SECOND**. And by that will, we have been made holy through the sacrifice of the body of Jesus Christ **ONCE FOR ALL**!!



John 13:34,35: Jesus says, "**A NEW COMMAND** I give you: Love one another **AS I HAVE LOVED YOU**, so you must love one another!" John 15:12,13: "Jesus says, "My command is this: Love each other **AS I HAVE LOVED YOU**. Greater love has no one than this, that **HE LAY DOWN HIS LIFE** for his friends!"



Matthew 26:28: Jesus says, "This is My blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many **FOR THE FORGIVENESS OF SINS**!"



Galatians 2:18-21: I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me! The life I live in the body, I live by **FAITH** in the Son of God, who loved me and **GAVE HIMSELF FOR ME**!! I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!!



Hebrews 9:12: He entered the Most Holy Place once for all by **HIS OWN BLOOD**, having obtained **ETERNAL REDEMPTION**!



Hebrews 9:22; 26-28: The law requires that nearly everything be cleansed with blood, and without the shedding of blood **THERE IS NO FORGIVENESS**.... But now He has appeared **ONCE FOR ALL** at the end of the ages to do away with sin **BY THE SACRIFICE OF HIMSELF**!! Just as man is destined to die once, and after that to face judgment, and Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many people, and He will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for Him!!



Ephesians 2:13: But now in Christ Jesus you who were once were far away have been brought near **THROUGH THE BLOOD OF CHRIST**!!



Romans 3:21-25: But now a righteousness from God, **APART FROM THE LAW**, has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. This righteousness from God comes **THROUGH FAITH** in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified freely by **HIS GRACE** through the **REDEMPTION** that came by Christ Jesus. God presented Him as a **SACRIFICE OF ATONEMENT**, **THROUGH FAITH IN HIS BLOOD**!!



Isaiah 1:18: "Come now, let us reason together," says the Lord. "Though your sins are like scarlet, they shall be as white as snow!!"



Colossians 1:15-20: He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For by Him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities, all things were created by Him and for Him. He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together. And He is the **HEAD OF HIS BODY, THE CHURCH**; He is the beginning and the firstborn from the dead, so that is **EVERYTHING HE MIGHT HAVE THE SUPREMACY**. For God was pleased to have all His fullness dwell in Him, and through Him to reconcile to Himself all things, whether things **ON EARTH** or things in heaven, by making peace **THROUGH HIS BLOOD**, shed on the cross!!



Colossians 2:13-15: When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your sinful nature, God made you **ALIVE WITH CHRIST**. He forgave us **ALL OUR SINS**, having canceled the written code, with its regulation, that was against us and that stood opposed to us, He took it away, **NAILNG IT TO THE CROSS**!!.



Ephesians 1:3-8; 11: Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in the heavenly realms with **EVERY** spiritual blessing in Christ. For He chose us in Him before the creation of the world to be holy and **BLAMELESS** in His sight. In love He predestined us to be adopted as His sons through Jesus Christ, in accordance with His pleasure and will--to the praise of His **GLORIOUS GRACE**, which He has freely given us in the One He loves. In Him we have **REDEMPTION THROUGH HIS BLOOD**, **THE FORGIVENESS OF SINS**, in accordance the riches of God's grace that He lavished on us with all wisdom and understanding!!



I Peter 1:18,19: For you know that was not with perishable things such as silver or gold that you were **REDEEMED** from the empty way of life handed down to you by your forefathers, but with the **PRECIOUS BLOOD OF CHRIST**, Lamb without blemish or defect!!



I Peter 2:24,25: He Himself **BORE OUR SINS** in His body on the tree, so that we might die to sins and live for righteousness, by **HIS WOUNDS** we are healed {See Isaiah 53:5,6}!! For you were like sheep going astray, but now you have returned to the Shepherd and Overseer of your souls!!



I Peter 3:18 For Christ **DIED FOR SINS ONCE FOR ALL**, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God!!



I John 2:1,2: My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have One who speaks to the Father in our defense--Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. He is the **ATONING SACRIFICE FOR OUR SINS**, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world!!



I John 4:10-12: This is **LOVE**, not that we loved God, but that He **LOVED** us and sent His Son as an **ATONING SACRIFICE** for our sins. Dear friends, since God so **LOVED** us, we also ought to **LOVE** one another. No one has ever seen God; but if we **LOVE** one another, God **LIVES IN US** and His **LOVE** is made complete in us.



Revelation 1:4,5: Grace and peace to you from Him who is, and who was, and who is to come and from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful Witness... To Him who loves us and freed us from our sins **BY HIS BLOOD**!!



NOTE: Jesus Christ our Savior is called the **LAMB** of God **30 TIMES** in the book of Revelation because He did away with all lamb sacrifices for sin by the sacrifice of Himself!!



Revelation 5:6,9: Then I saw a **LAMB**, looking as if it had been slain, standing in the center of the throne...You are worthy to take the scroll and to open its seals because You were slain, and **WITH YOUR BLOOD** You purchased men for God from every tribe and language and people and nation!!



Revelation 12:11: They overcame him by the **BLOOD OF THE LAMB** and by the word of their testimony; they did not love their lives so much as to shrink from death!!



Revelation 7:14: These are they who have come out of the Great Tribulation, they have was their robes and made them white in the **BLOOD OF THE LAMB**!!



Isaiah 53:5,6: But He was pierced for our transgressions, He was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was upon Him, and by His wounds we are healed! We all, like sheep, have gone astray , each of us has turned to his own way, and **THE LORD HAS LAID ON HIM THE INIQUITY OF US ALL**!!



Romans 5:6-10: You see, at just the right time, when we were still powerless. Christ died for the ungodly. Very rarely will anyone die for a righteous man, though for a good man someone might possibly dare to die. But God demonstrates His love for us in this: While we were still sinners Christ died for us. Since we are now justified **BY HIS BLOOD**, how much more will we be saved from God's wrath through Him! When we were God's enemies, we were reconciled to Him **THROUGH THE DEATH OF HIS SON**!!

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Why was the sacrifice of Cain not accepted by YHWH
Posted : 29 Aug, 2019 02:56 PM

kjv

Where in the scripture you posted does GOD Almighty say that He covers their sin.

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Why was the sacrifice of Cain not accepted by YHWH
Posted : 29 Aug, 2019 05:06 PM

Prophetic the Parrot quote:

Actually the blood sacrifices of Abel and all the Jews in the Old Testament were only symbolic since we are all saved only by the Blood of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. All blood offerings before the atonement of sins by God alone were just symbolic waiting for the only Divine blood sacrifice that can saves us from our sins

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In the OT , the sacrifices were on credit to them , appeasing Yahweh, awaiting the true blood of the lamb of God to take away the sins of the world. Which is really Yahweh in the flesh or as Grace says, "GOD ALMIGHTY" in the flesh! Or as I like to say sometimes. HOLY God Almighty in the flesh.

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