Author Thread: Pj can you please explain to me to where I am not having to guess at what you mean, when exactly did I acuse Jesus of being wrong? I acused you of being wrong and I plainly p;ainly stated that I do believe we will prosper everything I ever said was about our intent and the condition of our hearts so please explai what you mean by I did it again and that I said Jesus was wrong
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Pj can you please explain to me to where I am not having to guess at what you mean, when exactly did I acuse Jesus of being wrong? I acused you of being wrong and I plainly p;ainly stated that I do believe we will prosper everything I ever said was about our intent and the condition of our hearts so please explai what you mean by I did it again and that I said Jesus was wrong
Posted : 31 Jan, 2012 05:49 PM

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Posted : 30 Jan, 2012 07:01 AM



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That is what I ben trying to say newguy . PJ just cause I dont agree with you does not mean automaticly that I am in unbelief because to classify me in unbelief on a given subject you must first decide a few things #1 maybe you are wrong



(which is what I think on the subject of prosperity) #2 its possible that you have been mislead or decieved which would still make you wrong but someone else decieved you (i think you figured out the le on your own) #3 we are having a misunderstanding and you are not understanding what it is i am trying to say or vise versa you have several times completly ignored my statements that TV evangilists prey on por people by convincing them they wont be poor anymore if they send what little they have , I didint say all prosperity ws wrong just that doctrine in which the intent is self gain and not just love for the Lord and others a doctrine in which your soul purpose in giving is to increase yourself is completly contrary to the gospel of Christ and the Laws in which He said we are to Love others we are to be denying self so if we are giving just so we can recieve thats sin!!







who disagrees with that last statement





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Posted : 30 Jan, 2012 07:17 AM





Jesus did not figure himself out wrong, now you did it again Elisha you see you want to be wrong, it is not hard to enter into unbelief.



There will always be job's comforters







It is a choice to walk in faith and only those that walk in faith please the father.







Jesus is man's prosperity to whom will believe.







No I did not get it wrong by believing in the lord Jesus and his redemption and no amount of the mocking and scorning and unbelief will change his word.







To love him all will have to forsake his opinion's and accept the truth of the word of God.







In case you not sure what I have said, The gospel is prosperity and prosperity to every aspect of unbelief.

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Pj can you please explain to me to where I am not having to guess at what you mean, when exactly did I acuse Jesus of being wrong? I acused you of being wrong and I plainly p;ainly stated that I do believe we will prosper everything I ever said was about our intent and the condition of our hearts so please explai what you mean by I did it again and that I said Jesus was wrong
Posted : 2 Feb, 2012 06:29 AM

l I have said is that its wrong to just give with the sole intention of recieving PJ I am sorry if you misunderstood maybe you have a comprehansion deficit (i am being serious not trying to cut down at all) if thats the case I am extremly sorry I have my disabilities too but I really dont think you are comprehending me so I will say it again I do believe in prosperity in every aspect of the believers life







I just dont believe that if you have the wrong heart about giving thjat is if you are giving with the SOLE INTENTION of recieving that you are in Gods will nowhere des the word say give just so you can recieve







we are to be giving with a cheerful heart as unto the Lord whether we prosper or not through good times and iin bad just like job , he honored God no matter how increased he was and no matter how decresed he was it shouldnt matter if we are rich or poor if all he does it meet our needs thats all that matters anything extra should be an opportunity to gove something extra





In strife with the word of God.

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Pj can you please explain to me to where I am not having to guess at what you mean, when exactly did I acuse Jesus of being wrong? I acused you of being wrong and I plainly p;ainly stated that I do believe we will prosper everything I ever said was about our intent and the condition of our hearts so please explai what you mean by I did it again and that I said Jesus was wrong
Posted : 2 Feb, 2012 06:33 AM

Your sin of the tongue is as great as any or more than you proclaim to be in error and you insist in the sin, it has nothing to do with your self justification of it is not so because I said it, it is true because the lord Jesus says so.

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Pj can you please explain to me to where I am not having to guess at what you mean, when exactly did I acuse Jesus of being wrong? I acused you of being wrong and I plainly p;ainly stated that I do believe we will prosper everything I ever said was about our intent and the condition of our hearts so please explai what you mean by I did it again and that I said Jesus was wrong
Posted : 2 Feb, 2012 06:34 PM

Yep PJ you are one of them, the way you twist things you dont say anything that makes any sence and you are attempting to take the attention off of what I have said and put it on what you call my sin, PJ you dont decide what sin is and I have done nothing wrong me strating the truth about markus bishup and his cronies does not make me in sin, I am not bold enough to acuse you of sin like you do me, but I wil say this if you are acusing me of sin for what I have said against markus bishop creflo dollar and keeneth copeland because you look up to them and subscribe to their doctrine of devils then you are definaly guilty of their sin I am not the one guilty of greed PJ its crflo and the gang that are greedy and I KNOW FIRST HAND because marhkus bishop did his best to not pay my daddy for putting a very expensive roof over his 10000 sq ft house on panama city beach

OH but you wont adress that



IN fact you wont tell anyone in plain english what you believe all you do is talk in riddles trying to confuse I have said over and over and over again that I believe in prosperity its the way that they act like they can control the blessings of God with their calls to sow seeds thats not how it works



The Lord will prosper you but He willalso cause you to be content! Happy with having your needs met and when he blesses yu with somehing more you feel free to bless someone else because you dont want it or think you need it for selfish reasons



PJ you are exausting to me I am litarly exausted from ythe way you twist my words and say things acusing me of sin without ever making a clear statment I am sick to death of it



I dont even know you and all you kow of me is some articles I have psoted and some comments I have made you have authority to say I am in sin because you dont know I am not in sin for outing markus bishop and the word of faith crew they are just as bad if not worse than John calvin any day of the week



Idont agree with what John Calvin says but if its sin to speak out against kenneth copeland that its just as sinfukl to speak out against Joh Calvin



as I have said speaking against a man of God is dangeous speaking against an evil man who claims the Lord isnt sin



I have tried the spirits and seen the fruit and its wicked and greed I can see clearly I am not blinsded by my pwn flesh and greed I may be biast towards markus bishop BUT ONLY BECAEU I KNOW OF LIVES HE HAS RUINED AND I KOW HE TREID TO RIP OFF MY OWN DADDY



AND IF SOMEONE MESSES WITH MY DADDY THEY ARE MY ENEMY SIN OR NO SIN!!



My daddy is a godly man I look up tp him and he is as good as they come and as honest as they get so yeah when markus bishop tried to STEAL FROM MY DADDY then HE AND I HAVE A BIG BIG PROBLEM and if kenneth copeland and creflo dollar are yoked uo with him then I have a problem with them too guilt by association and I am sorry but the enemy of my enemy is my friend but the opposit is also true the friend of my enemy is my enemy and I do see them as my enemy they are from their father the LIAR they are LIARS and crooks and PNJ I dont care what you think really not aymore I used to have a geat respect for you but now I see what everyone tried to tell me from ythe beginng I love you PJ but you are wrong for the mentel games you have been [laying with me



What you are doing would be considerd abuse if we were married and is alos a brain washing tactic you probably dont even realize you are doing it because it was probably used on you to reel you into the cult you are a part of



When I say something that completly goes along wioth what you are saying but you still insist on coming back with I am in sin and I am wrong and sayingf I am in unbeliefe even though I have said I do believe in prosperity thats your atempt at brainwashing me and its also abusive very abuive to continualy tell someone they are wrong wrong wrong and nver say why they are worng especialy whne that person is going to great lenths to tell you that they agree with most of what you are saying



Just like when you say that yu never brought up money , but all along I was talking about money that was my subject the entire time when I mentioned the seeds and the reeping the harvest it was about money and no I am not obessed or preoccupied with money I am preocupied with your insistance on saying that prety much if you are a christian you should be getting rich or you are doing something wrong

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Pj can you please explain to me to where I am not having to guess at what you mean, when exactly did I acuse Jesus of being wrong? I acused you of being wrong and I plainly p;ainly stated that I do believe we will prosper everything I ever said was about our intent and the condition of our hearts so please explai what you mean by I did it again and that I said Jesus was wrong
Posted : 2 Feb, 2012 06:38 PM

No Elisha not one time Have I twisted any words every time, my response is scripture.



Now you insist that you are correct and scripture is wrong, according to you those are not my words.

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Pj can you please explain to me to where I am not having to guess at what you mean, when exactly did I acuse Jesus of being wrong? I acused you of being wrong and I plainly p;ainly stated that I do believe we will prosper everything I ever said was about our intent and the condition of our hearts so please explai what you mean by I did it again and that I said Jesus was wrong
Posted : 2 Feb, 2012 08:13 PM

no pj your responces are never scripture i have asked repeatedly for you to post some scripture but you didnt not anything that was relevant to the topic you still havent posted andything relevent you did on another thread post something about creation but still didnt adress what I was refering to ,you have continualy told me i was wrong no matter how much I agreed withyou and no matter what I said you have said I was wrong and I am sure its because I have outed markus bisho pand his group, you still wont answer the question if you are a emeber of the word of faith group i just want to know if the clus I picked up in your comments were infact clues that you do felowship with these people and the tares they have planted I hoope not PJ I hope I am wrong but In disagree alot with agapeton but I thin k this tim I have to agree with him whe he said all I can do is pray for you and thats what I am going to do



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Pj can you please explain to me to where I am not having to guess at what you mean, when exactly did I acuse Jesus of being wrong? I acused you of being wrong and I plainly p;ainly stated that I do believe we will prosper everything I ever said was about our intent and the condition of our hearts so please explai what you mean by I did it again and that I said Jesus was wrong
Posted : 2 Feb, 2012 11:33 PM

oOf course I did you choose not to hear?

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