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Health and Wealth:Biblical or not #2
Posted : 25 May, 2011 01:00 PM

I do not believe there is an Old Covenant Scripture equivelant with this.





2Co 8:9 for ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that because of you he became poor--being rich, that ye by that poverty may become rich.





The H-W use this verse by saying:

See Christ became poor so that 'We could become Rich'



They use this verse to condone the ripping off of the masses for their own use,and pleasure.

When questioned by others,their usual repsonse is this.

'Oh don't you have faith unto this brother.

It does not take faith to rob people,it takes a greedy,hardened and despicable heart to to do this,

Especially to the poor.



Christs poverty was to empty himself and become a man.

My becoming rich,is being adopted as a child of GOD.



Mat 6:33 but seek ye first the reign of God and His righteousness, and all these shall be added to you.



When we are empowered of the holy Spirit to be seeking the Kingship of GOD,then do we not also get along with Him everything that He is,does, and has.







The best understanding might be this.



Christ became a man in order that He would make me a son of GOD.



Christ though all things had been made by Him,

and for His good pleasure,Yet He did not seek anything of this life.

He did not own anything in this life,Nor was He possessed by anything in this life.

He only sought to do the will of the Father and to ONLY Please Him.



Man,creates NOTHING,he uses what has already been created in order to make things.



Man enters this world with nothing,yet he/she wants almost everything their eye can see.



Man really owns NOTHING,yet man can be possessed ,or rather obssessed with/by almost everything.

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Health and Wealth:Biblical or not #2
Posted : 26 May, 2011 12:22 AM

9:10 Now he that ministereth seed to the sower both minister bread for your food, and multiply your seed sown, and increase the fruits of your righteousness;)



Right in the middle of two chapters concerning finances,



So it is a choice, you see or deny



You hear and you don't hear.



There is a spiritual law that has been in effect since the beginning of time, and it is simply the law of sowing and reaping.



Mt 10:29 And Jesus answered and said, Verily I say unto you, There is no man that hath left house, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my sake, and the gospel�s,

10:30 But he shall receive an hundredfold now in this time, houses, and brethren, and sisters, and mothers, and children, and lands, with persecutions; and in the world to come eternal life.

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Posted : 26 May, 2011 03:14 AM

afisherofmen, here's the scripture you're speaking of: (Matthew 10:8) Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ TD Jakes wrote 30 books and is known as a millionaire author. I wonder how much money he paid Jesus to let him use some of His words . He's a fleecer of soooo many people. Right up there with the motivational speaker Joel Osteen. POIC, I hope you'll share more scriptures and how health wealthers twist them in order to guilt people into sending their hard earned cash.

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Posted : 26 May, 2011 07:16 AM

Hey chevy:



There is more on the way.



We need to be praying for those that profess this stuff.



They need the Holy Spirit to instruct them in the Word about such things.



We also need to pray for those listening to this stuff,only to have theri lives destroyed; when they find out that they have been taken to the cleaners and told to pay the bill.



Rememeber Yeshua did not rail on the people,but rather on the so-called religious leaders.



ps:

One thing I never here them pray for is wisdom to being a faithful steward.

Nor do they ever confess any wrongdoing in the handling of the finances.



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Posted : 26 May, 2011 09:32 AM

jesus told a parable, a man built many store houses for himself. bing so rich he still had too much. god the said you fool your life will be taken this night.



of course I wrote this from memory. many of you know where it is at.

Certain christian singers use their riches to feed the children thru compassion international, while others give a lot to women's minnitries and ect. They openly advertise asking for us to do the same. They show how to live the life.

Why do these super pastor's not do that?

Why do they have several homes. In the 1980's Jim Baker had an airconditioned dog house for his family pet.

Personal bowling alleys is what somebody told us Mr. Jakes has.

I never buy books written by such people. Nor should you.

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