God has called us to teach our children about the things and Word of God and Jesus Christ, His Son...... but who cares?...
We are to find the hungry, clothe the naked, house the homeless, visit and pray for the sick, and those in prison... but who cares?...
We are to heal and mend the brokenhearted, and preach the gospel to the poor and the lost, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recover sight to the blind and set those in bondage of their sins free ... but who cares?...
You know why no one cares?... because everyone is too busy being selfish, but we must be very careful about being selfish, and careful to be greater servants of the Lord... because if we don't... NO ONE WILL CARE!
POIC, I would like to ask you, how is it that you think you know so much about the ministry of Bishop TD JAKES?
1. Are you a member of his congregation, if so for how long?
2. Do you follow his ministry closely, if so, for how long have you been listening to and following his televison teaching ministry and reading his books?
3.You speak as if you personally know these things for a fact becasue you are familiar with his ministry... when in fact, and if God be true, you never heard of Bishop Jakes until I made mention of his name on this thread.
4. And if God be true, you know nothing about his teaching nor have you ever heard him speak or read not one of his books, or seen him on television.
5. And if God be true you are only bearing a false witiness about someone you know nothing about nor have you ever heard of him, outside of what you googled on the internet and came back and posted from what you READ someone else write about hm, who may know or may not follow him..
6. If God be true, then you have need to repent of bearing a false witness against a man of God YOu know nothing about personally for yourself, becasue you never even heard of Bishop until this thread. You now nothing about Bishop's work in the ministry for the poor or the lost, so why are you trying to speak what you know not?
Maybe you should go out and buy a couple of his books and or order some of his CD's or DVD's and see what he is speaking about if you can spiritually understand. Plus, his services are streamed live every Sunday morning via internet, why not try viewing him for once to find out what he teaches, since you realay don't know.
And because you don't know the first things about Bishop Jakes, I would strong and very I highkly recommend to you your reading pleasure a few of his books that I know will help you grow up spritually: Repositioning Yourself; So You Think You Are A Man"?; and He-Motions by Bishop TD Jakes.
And when you have finished reading them, please come back and let's discuss his teachng ministry and waht you might find out about him from reading his books.
Otherwsie, you have need to stop speaking out falsely about a servant of God you know nothing about... DID YOU NOT KNOW THAT BEARING FALSE WITNESS IS A SIN? DID YOU NOT KNOW THAT SPEAKING OUT FALSELY ABOUT A SERVANT OF GOD, GOD PROMISES TO REVENGE?
If you don't know theses things I suggest you take Aretha Franklin's advice, You better think!... maybe you don't know who she is either... google and find out.
As I've told you before, you sure speak with such grant authority about things you know nothign about nor can you affirm nothing you speak from personally know or experience.. and That's Bible! As I said Bishop didn't write what he said, Jesus says it in Matthew chpater 25, so you had better be the one who is aware! Bishop only repeated what Jesus said... if you're reading.
2nd cor9:7 Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver.
9:8 And God is able to make all grace abound toward you; that ye, always having all sufficiency in all things, may abound to every good work:
9:9 (As it is written, He hath dispersed abroad; he hath given to the poor: his righteousness remaineth for ever.
9:10 Now he that ministereth seed to the sower both minister bread for your food, and multiply your seed sown, and increase the fruits of your righteousness;)
It seems to me there are those that even teach that tithing is not scriptural and some endeavor to put some in bondage by teaching on tithing.
To listen to or order books or CD's or DVD's of TD Jkes you can find out about his ministry by going to his websites.
www.tdjakes.org
www.tdjakes.com
www.thepottershouse.org
It is so ver important to be informed about a person before you speak soemthng you don't know first hand or God has not revealed to you about a person.
Lern to make informed decisions and not off the cuff comments of your own opinions based on what someone else has said. That's the work of the devil, in case you didnt know, orventing you from receiving the truth that may be of help to you for your own deliverance.
Good post PJ, that's what I'm talking about. Plus Bishop doesn't beg for money.
and POIC if I remember correct( I stand to be corrected) but if I remember, has already stated he is not a member of a church, and doesn't believe in going to church, do I have this correct POIC?... so, if this be a true statment, how can someone who doesn't even attend anybody's church or even believes in the institution of an organized body of believrs wirshipping together in the presence of God in a building set aside and is called a House of Prayer Hous of God, speak so out boldy about someone who is the overseerer of his own church, a House fo Prayer which is set aside as the House fo God?
I love to volunteer, donate food, donate clothes, donate money, donate time, I've even donated some of my framed prints, but I'm not a member of any such 'society' or 'association'. Not that anything's wrong with them, there just aren't many around here that I'd want to join, for my own reasons. I give when I feel lead to give. That being said, there have been times when I didn't feel lead to give, and I won't apologize for that.
On a separate note, the government seems fit to give our tax dollars to the poor. So we all give to the needy as long as we're paying taxes. Granted, I don't take credit for that because I'm not necessarily giving it with a willing heart. The government's definition of poverty and mine are very different.
As I've told you before, you sure speak with such grant authority about things you know nothign about nor can you affirm nothing you speak from personally know or experience.. and That's Bible!
I did not know that YOUR OPINION is on the same level as THE WORD OF GOD.
Pride goes before destruction and a haughty spirit before a fall.
Good Post, T. ~~~~~~~ POIC, I should have checked out this thread first! I'd have saved a little time googling Jakes. Lol - You described him SPOT ON!!! @ P.J. , Not that long ago et was calling you out as a False Teacher in about every other thread. What has happened? Was she wrong? Or has your Truth changed ?
CHEVY, i NEVER CALLED j, OUT AS A FALSE TEACHER. What I have said that he lack spiritual understanding in certain things.
But you know what, Pj is more spiritually mature in certain simple matter regarding faith and understanding parables than you or any of the others who would like to think he does understand.
And you know what, he has grown spiritually over the time he has been posting, but this can't be said about you or others.
So, yes, I will call Pj, you and anyone else out when things are not spiritually correct and line up with what God has to say.
And you know something else, PJ, really is sincere and consistant in his spiritual understanding in his scritptural believes. He has faith tobelieve and God is doing a great work in opening his knowledge and understading of HIs word. What's y'all excuses?
PJ, knows pretty much what he is saying, even if he at times can't express it clearly, but you would have to be of a spiritual mind to be able to discern what he is saying.
You can't find not negative word to say about Jakes, so it wouldn't matter if you had read this before you posted or not. If this is what you meant by saying you wish you had read this thread first before posting about him.
So who are/ is your teacher(s) that you faithfully follow as spiritual mentors? I should not ask because I'm sure you have none.
