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Current day example of denying the lord!!
Posted : 19 May, 2011 10:47 AM

Why won't those that believe wake up and love James and tell him he is in total denial of the word of God? Reformed theology denies the very foundation of the word of God in saying man does not have the ability to do what the word of God tells him to do. By the way there is no place for Jesus in reformation theology, even on this site I have heard it more than once they have the basics, no they don't they totally deny the basics. The foundation of Christianity is built on faith from the word of God, not the word of men about the word of God.



Twosparrows said



James you asked: so shall you receive: John 1:10-13



especially ~ "But to all who did receive Him" and "He gave them the right to be children of God tothose who believe in His name"



James replies:



This is a good Scripture, and in no way disagrees with the Order of Salvation, or the "Ordo Salutis".



This Scripture says that the ones who received Jesus, were accepted by God and forgiven.



It does NOT say "they had the ability to chose".



This is another "whosoever" verse.



NO ONE who repents and trusts in Jesus will be turned away!



But the Bible ALSO plainly says that NO ONE has the ability to repent and trust in Jesus UNLESS God GRANTS it, or DRAWS them, or GIVES THEM the GIFT OF FAITH.



And what I am saying to you, is NOTHING NEW!



And since there has been so much time spent on this group lately slamming Calvin and Luther, and the Reformation in General, here is something from a THOUSAND YEARS earlier than the Reformation:



If anyone makes the assistance of grace depend on the humility or obedience of man and does not agree that it is a gift of grace itself that we are obedient and humble, he contradicts the Apostle who says, "What have you that you did not receive?" (1 Cor. 4:7), and, "But by the grace of God I am what I am" (1 Cor. 15:10). If anyone affirms that we can form any right opinion or make any right choice which relates to the salvation of eternal life, or that we can be saved by assent to the preaching of the gospel through our natural powers without the effectual work of the Holy Spirit, who makes all whom He calls gladly and willingly assent to and believe in the truth, he is led astray from the plain teaching of Scripture by exalting the natural ability of man, and does not understand the voice of God who says in the Gospel, "For apart from me you can do nothing" (John 15:5), and the word of the Apostle, "Not that we are competent of ourselves to claim anything as coming from us; our competence is from God" (2 Cor. 3:5).



Adapted from The Council of Orange (529 AD)



In Christ,



James

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Current day example of denying the lord!!
Posted : 20 May, 2011 01:08 PM

I'm still waiting for that Web Sire Chevy...xo

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Posted : 20 May, 2011 01:15 PM

I'm waiting on you to say you didn't copy it from a book, jude, and I'll do better than a web-site, I'll find out the name of the book it's in. It's an older book. Now tell us, woman of God, were those your own words?Yea or Nay?

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Posted : 20 May, 2011 01:21 PM

And I'm waiting on you chevy and 2sparrow to explain the SPIRITUAL APPLICATION of the parable of the wheat and tare as in accordance with how Jesus explained the meaning to his disciples... Matthew chapter 13:37-43.

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Posted : 20 May, 2011 01:23 PM

Yea...xo

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Posted : 20 May, 2011 01:25 PM

Once again...Thats Bull Pucky Chevy...I wrote that my self from my heart...if you found that on a differant site please say where I'd like to see it my self...xo

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Posted : 20 May, 2011 01:26 PM

I'm still waiting...xo

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Posted : 20 May, 2011 01:28 PM

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Posted : 20 May, 2011 01:29 PM

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Posted : 20 May, 2011 01:30 PM

:zzzz:...:zzzz:...:zzzz:...xoxoxo

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Posted : 20 May, 2011 01:30 PM

Also, chevy does it matter whose words they were?... have not you heard?... do not you know?... that what is said has already been said ages ago?

So what's the big deal and problem you're having with all of this? Is it that you really can't find anything to complain about so you find anything which has nothing to do about nothing... nick picking about nonessentials?

For it is written: examine yourself and see if you be disqualified, how spiritually mature are you proving yourself to be?... rather childish and spiritually immature I would say. What's you purpose? If there is not a purpose to accomplish, what does that mean? :rolleyes:

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