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Admin	Why Calvinism Exists..... (in 10 seconds or less) Posted : 20 Apr, 2011 05:12 PM The invention of the printing press put Bibles into the hands of common man for the first time in all of history. People quickly discovered the Catholic Church's teachings were not in line with the Bible. When the Catholic Church refused to align it self with the Bible the people protested, thus was born the Prostestant Movement. Some in the New movement feared the Bible in the hands of the common uneducated man combined with freedom from the Catholic Church authority would result in various heresies. These people were known as the Reformers, thus was born the Reformation Movement. Reformers felt they needed to standardize the teachings of the Bible, more or less "Reforming the Catholic Church's teachings" to align with the Bible to avoid people interpreting the Bible for themselves. To do this they drew on the writings of Augustine, Calvin and others, thus producing the Doctrines of Grace and Reformation Theology. In light of history, I am of the opinion that Reformation Theology is exactly what the name suggests; a 'Reformed Catholic Church' which in reality makes us Reformers and Protestants, instead as the Calvinist suggests; Calvinists and Arminians. This really tickles me cause it makes so many things about their behavior towards doctrine and Church histoy make sense to me. You know what I mean? Post Reply
View Profile History	Why Calvinism Exists..... (in 10 seconds or less) Posted : 20 Apr, 2011 08:33 PM Guess what? I said I interpreted? Just not a Systematic Extremist. Why are you playing games? Do you not comprehend what you read? Post Reply
View Profile History	Why Calvinism Exists..... (in 10 seconds or less) Posted : 20 Apr, 2011 08:34 PM Right, you interpret, just the proper way. Anyone who interprets different from you is extremist or not following the spirit. Post Reply
View Profile History	Why Calvinism Exists..... (in 10 seconds or less) Posted : 20 Apr, 2011 09:07 PM Never said that either. What I have said is .... I believe Scripture teaches Depravity (not total), Election (not unconditional), Atonement (not limited) and Grace (not irresistible). However you take these to the extreme and when asked for proof you provide Scripture on Depravity, Election, Atonement and Grace, when what is asked for is Scripture on Total, Unconditional, Limited, and Irresistible. Comprenda? Post Reply
View Profile History	Why Calvinism Exists..... (in 10 seconds or less) Posted : 20 Apr, 2011 09:15 PM Well those are your beliefs yes. I knew that. However that is not all you have said. You have said much more about those who disagree follow man. you don't interpret scripture, you just read it. Now on some of those things you have backtracked and said they aren't true which I commend. John 3:16 my brother :) Post Reply
View Profile History	Why Calvinism Exists..... (in 10 seconds or less) Posted : 20 Apr, 2011 09:33 PM I think you have confused some of PJ's posts with mine. I don't backtrack, if I change my mind or look at things from a different perspective, I come out and say so. I cannot remember ever saying you follow man, cause in my mind you follow Jesus your way, which is to interpret Scripture in a extreme way because your doctrine demands it. I have accused the Doctrine of Grace as being a "Paper Pope" to the Calvinist. Post Reply
View Profile History	Why Calvinism Exists..... (in 10 seconds or less) Posted : 20 Apr, 2011 10:33 PM Two I am not one to say I just read the word, what you will see is that I say continually is believe, which is exactly what Jesus told us to do, no one has a foundation to interpret the word of God and all it causes is endless arguments, and then somebody comes up with a theology like well you know. Ryan no matter how you do look at it Two is usually in agreement with scripture. Two could tell someone how to be saved a calvinist can not, they do not agree with scripture nor do they preach what they believe according to James. Post Reply
View Profile History	Why Calvinism Exists..... (in 10 seconds or less) Posted : 21 Apr, 2011 04:49 AM PJ, I am not in disagreement with you, it is just I cannot remember using the phrase saying they "follow man" although I do remember you and some others using it. Which I believe is 'indirectly' true, not directly true, which is why I don't think I have ever said it directly. Post Reply
View Profile History	Why Calvinism Exists..... (in 10 seconds or less) Posted : 21 Apr, 2011 08:45 AM Shared ~ " a 'Reformed Catholic Church' which in reality makes us Reformers and Protestants, instead as the Calvinist suggests; Calvinists and Arminians." *** Amen ! AMEN !!! You Were Blind and Now you Seeeee...Calvinism is a Re-Do of the Catholic Church...Protestant is just DO the Do...Yippy...Yi...Ya...Yi...Yo...Ima not in Bondage to Sin nor Man's Legalities NO More...Yippy...Yi...Ya...Yi...Yoooo...:yay:...xo Post Reply
View Profile History	Why Calvinism Exists..... (in 10 seconds or less) Posted : 21 Apr, 2011 09:38 AM Jude, :ROFL: Great Post! Post Reply
View Profile History	Why Calvinism Exists..... (in 10 seconds or less) Posted : 21 Apr, 2011 09:48 AM Thank ya Sir !...:winksmile:...I believe the the Statement bout Calvinists following Man...is Actually..."Calvinists Follow a Mans Doctrine"..."The Doctrine of Calvin"...you can Google this and be Absolutely Amazzzzedddd at what shows up...:goofball:...xo Post Reply

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