Author	Thread: Is pre-marital sex a sin?
Admin	Is pre-marital sex a sin? Posted : 13 Apr, 2011 09:57 PM Is pre-marital sex really a sin? The Bible does not exactly say it is. Post Reply
View Profile History	Is pre-marital sex a sin? Posted : 14 Apr, 2011 09:13 PM ET you are talking about the manner in which the word is interpreted by teachers and I am talking about the actual definition of the word. How about this, you do a word study, go back in your studies as far as you can and you will find that your definition of fornication is as new as dispensationalism. It is not the original definition of the original word. I realize that it is easier to argue what you know as true than it is to actually dig for the truth but in my case I have been lied to so many times by the teachers of the church that I don't trust anything it/they say. I prefer to find out for myself rather than trust the teachings of seminarians and people who have never really studied the Bible. Yo can fill in the blanks in your Bible study guide all you want and you will never learn much about what the Bible really says but you will certainly know all the right answers for whatever doctrine your denomination teaches and perhaps that is more important to you. As for me, I'll study on my own because the man in the pulpit is the last person I can trust to tell me the truth. You are doing nothing more than rattling on with Christianese rhetoric and not bothering to find out if I am right. Like so many other Christians, you are an expert on your doctrine and not much of a student of the Truth. Thunder Post Reply
View Profile History	Is pre-marital sex a sin? Posted : 14 Apr, 2011 09:36 PM Thunder, Thanks for the cool info, I love knowing the ancient root meaning of words! It is so expanding! Post Reply
View Profile History	Is pre-marital sex a sin? Posted : 15 Apr, 2011 05:06 AM Thanks, Thunder! Post Reply
View Profile History	Is pre-marital sex a sin? Posted : 15 Apr, 2011 07:15 AM I do believe that pre-marital sex is a sin. Post Reply
View Profile History	Is pre-marital sex a sin? Posted : 15 Apr, 2011 08:49 AM Thunder, the question of the topic is about whether premarital sex a sin? ... referencing that the Bible doesn't speak much about it. You're arguing all by yourself to justify your belief that its okay for adults in a committed relationship to have sex. But God says in His word that its not okay to have sex outside of marriage, because fornication is sin. I have no problems with what God says, nor do I have problems with the root meaning of the word fornication, I have no problems with you seacrhing out the root word and all that stuff if you apply it properly in the use of scripture... But scripture still says that fornication is sin, and it is not okay for adults no matter how old they are to have sex outside of marriage. God says it is better to marry than to burn with lust and passion and commit fornication. My request of you was to provide scriptures to support your belief that would show me that the word fornication used in these passage does not mean sexual intercourse outside of marriage, and the usages of fornication in the passage does not mean what it says, and that the word fornication God speaks about in the Bible does not means what it says. Thunder, Yes, you can belief what you please, and argue your opinion day and night by yourself, again as I said what you believe does not lessen what God has said in His word. FORNICATION is a SIN and it is not allowed whether you are young or old, and God DOES NOT give a hooot about the root meaning of the word or its origin. Fornication means sex outside of marriage, and sex outside of marriage mean sexual immorality, and sexual immorality means SIN in God's Word of Truth. I can't speak about Your word of truth, because your word of your truth is based on your own opinons and beliefs, and can't save anybody not even yourself, but God's word of truth brings salvation and saves all of us from our from sins therefore, this is what I stand upon. Post Reply
View Profile History	Is pre-marital sex a sin? Posted : 15 Apr, 2011 12:06 PM This is such a Fascinating Subject�:excited: KJV Dictionary ~ Fornication ~ Sexual ~ Immorality Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children; and walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savour. But FORNICATION, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints; neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks. (Ephesian 5:1-4) American Tract Society Bible Dictionary ~ Fornication This word is used in Scripture [[[ not only for the sin of impurity between unmarried persons, ]]] but for idolatry, and for all kinds of infidelity to God. In Ezekiel 16:1-63, the Jewish church is symbolized as a female infant, growing up to womanhood, and then wedded to Jehovah by covenant. When she breaks her covenant by going after idols, she is justly reproached as an adulteress and a harlot, Jeremiah 2:20 3:8-9 Hosea 3:1. Adultery and fornication are frequently confounded. Both the Old and New Testaments condemn all impurity and fornication, corporeal and spiritual-idolatry, apostasy, heresy, and infidelity. See ADULTERY. ( Websters RU & Smiths Bible Dictionary Below ) Webster Revise Unabridged 1. (n.) Unlawful sexual intercourse on the part of an unmarried person; the act of such illicit sexual intercourse between a man and a woman as does not by law amount to adultery. 2. (n.) Adultery. 3. (n.) Incest. 4. (n.) Idolatry. Smiths Bible Dictionary ~ Adultery (Exodus 20:14) The parties to this crime, according to Jewish law, were a married woman and a man who was not her husband. The Mosaic penalty was that both the guilty parties should be stoned, and it applied as well to the betrothed as to the married woman, provided she were free. (22:22-24) A bondwoman so offending was to be scourged, and the man was to make a trespass offering. (Leviticus 19:20-22) At a later time, and when owing, to Gentile example, the marriage tie became a looser bond of union, public feeling in regard to adultery changed, and the penalty of death was seldom or never inflicted. The famous trial by the waters of jealousy, (Numbers 5:11-29) was probably an ancient custom, which Moses found deeply seated --(But this ordeal was wholly in favor of the innocent, and exactly opposite to most ordeals. For the water which the accused drank was perfectly harmless, and only by a miracle could it produce a bad effect; while in most ordeals the accused must suffer what naturally produces death, and be proved innocent only by a miracle. Symbolically adultery is used to express unfaithfulness to covenant vows to God, who is represented as the husband of his people.) American Tract Society Bible Dictionary ~ Adultery Is a criminal connection between persons who are engaged, one or both, to keep themselves wholly to others; [[[ and thus it exceeds the guilt of fornication,]]] [[[which is the same intercourse between unmarried persons.]]] As the � highest sin of its kind,� and sin including all other sins of the flesh, it is forbidden in the seventh commandment. Where polygamy was allowed, as among the ancient Jews, illicit intercourse between a married man and a woman who was married, nor betrothed, constituted not adultery, but fornication. Fornication may be, in some sense, covered by a subsequent marriage of the parties; but adultery cannot be so healed. Hence God often compares himself to a husband jealous of his honor, Jeremiah 31:32; and hence the forsaking of the true God is compared to fornication and adultery of the vilest kind, Jeremiah 3:9; Ezekiel 23:36-49. By the Law of Moses, both the man and the woman who had committed adultery were punished with death, Le 20:10; 21:9; John 8:5. A woman suspected of this crime might, in order to clear herself, drink the "water of jealousy," as prescribed in Numbers 5:1-31. International Standard Bible Dictionary ~ Adultery a-dul'-ter-i: In Scripture designates sexual intercourse of a man, whether married or unmarried, with a married woman. *** Its ALL so very Confusing�:rolleyes:...I�ll Stick with Knowing & Accepting that GOD Forbids it�Keeps the Confusion & Guess Work Out Of It�:dunce:...xo Post Reply
View Profile History	Is pre-marital sex a sin? Posted : 16 Apr, 2011 11:29 PM All you have to do is give a Bible verse that explicitly says that pre-marital sex is a sin. Fornication does not mean pre-marital sex. The only sexual sins that are mentioned in the Bible are incest, homosexuality, bestiality, and adultery. David had 700 wives, Solomon had 1000 wives, Samson slept with a lot of women--a lot of pre-marital sex, and Abraham cheated on Sarah, but God never condemned any of those men for sexual immorality. Therefore, pre-marital sex must not be a sin. Post Reply
View Profile History	Is pre-marital sex a sin? Posted : 16 Apr, 2011 11:29 PM All you have to do is give a Bible verse that explicitly says that pre-marital sex is a sin. Fornication does not mean pre-marital sex. The only sexual sins that are mentioned in the Bible are incest, homosexuality, bestiality, and adultery. David had 700 wives, Solomon had 1000 wives, Samson slept with a lot of women--a lot of pre-marital sex, and Abraham cheated on Sarah, but God never condemned any of those men for sexual immorality. Therefore, pre-marital sex must not be a sin. Post Reply
View Profile History	Is pre-marital sex a sin? Posted : 16 Apr, 2011 11:30 PM All you have to do is give a Bible verse that explicitly says that pre-marital sex is a sin. Fornication does not mean pre-marital sex. The only sexual sins that are mentioned in the Bible are incest, homosexuality, bestiality, and adultery. David had 700 wives, Solomon had 1000 wives, Samson slept with a lot of women--a lot of pre-marital sex, and Abraham cheated on Sarah, but God never condemned any of those men for sexual immorality. Therefore, pre-marital sex must not be a sin. Post Reply
View Profile History	Is pre-marital sex a sin? Posted : 16 Apr, 2011 11:30 PM All you have to do is give a Bible verse that explicitly says that pre-marital sex is a sin. Fornication does not mean pre-marital sex. The only sexual sins that are mentioned in the Bible are incest, homosexuality, bestiality, and adultery. David had 700 wives, Solomon had 1000 wives, Samson slept with a lot of women--a lot of pre-marital sex, and Abraham cheated on Sarah, but God never condemned any of those men for sexual immorality. Therefore, pre-marital sex must not be a sin. Post Reply

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