Sad that "many on this forum" were put down for not responding to a certain post. It isn't necessary to tell you how I would witness to a sinner. It's necessary that I do. __________ ____________________________ I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live: yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh, I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. ______________Galatians 2:20
First of all let me make this very clear to all of you, Chevy and anyone else who amy feel or thinksuch. . I don't need anyone to take up for me or take my side in anything that I say or may say. I am firm in what I say and know what I say, and say what I mean, and mean what I say in much of all that I say.
What I speak is according to what God says in His word, and I can back up what I say based on scritpures, and not my own personal opinion, and I follow accordingly.
Jude, and those who know what God has said and understand His spiritual principles and concepts, and they who have spiritual insight into the depth of God's word agree with what I speak, ONLY because they know that its not me they are agreeing with or disagreeing with. They know what God has said in His word, and we are taught to agree with the word when its spoken. And not to agree with someone's opinion about what they THINK the word is saying when there is no spiritual insight into the word of God wiherein the person cannot even affrim what they speak according to scriptures..
The problem I see with what Cat, Saved, Chevy and 2sparrow are saying, is that you THINK you're disagreeing with me, when in fact you are in disagreement with the spiritual principles and gudielines of biblcial teachings of what , as according to what Jesus said, BE His Witness... and this is first before anything..
You can call it whatever you please,a formular, format, method, or whatever, but as I've said , God is a God of ORDER, and He sets the guidelines as to how things should be done according to HIS WAYS, NOT YOURS! The process of salvation has its principles, format, formaular, or whatever you care to call it, and unless these guidelisne are followed, it will not work, becasue its HOW GOD HAS DECREED IT SHOULD BE DONE!..NOT YOU!
The Bible teaches us that we are to preach/teach the gospel FIRST to the lost THEN witness to others about the Lord in our life. If you don't know these things and you're doing it your way, and you are making God out to be a LAIR as to how it is to be done.Becasue you're saying your way is better and it works best for you! Well, it ain't about you! It ain't about how you feel! And it ain't about what's best for YOU! Its about the Lord Jesus Christ. Spritual things of God, and not the carnal things of your own ways.
The Holy Spirit will NEVER AGREE WITH YOU DOING THE THINGS OF THE LORD, YOUR WAY! There is no way you are led by the Spirit of the Lord, witnessing to any one your own way and the way you have figureed out that is best for you! If you are to be led by the Holy Spirit in the correct way God has used as a guide to do HIS WORK in ministry, and NOT YOUR WORK based on what feels good to you, or how YOU think it should be done.
From Jesus beginning ministry He preached about the kindgdom of God, and who He was in God. John the Baptist came on the scene preaching Repentance unto salavtion, and the word of God, preaching and teaching about Jesus and his experience with God.
When Nicodemus came to Jesus at night, he came at night because he was afraid of being kicked out of the group with the Phrasees, he believed in Jesus, but he was a spritiaul coward. Jesus preach to him about what?... about the Holy Sprit and God, and salvation in Him. When Jesus gave out the Great Commission, He said What?...GO and Preach/teach the gospel, and baptized them. When the apostles were filled with the Holy Spirit, what did they do?... they preached and taught the people FIRST ABOUT JESUS, AND GAVE THEIR TESTIMONIES ABOUT Jesus in their lives everywhere they went.
God has given us an outline as to how we are to witness to people, but if you don't know these spiritaul things then you will do it your own way.Noitce all of you said, what was best and easy for YOU! But it is not about You, its about God's way as to how it is to be done, nor are you being led by the Holy Spirit to do NOTHING pretaining to God yourown way. And that's a fact.
If you cannot spiritual see these things, that's another story, but you can't say your'e being led by the Holy Spirit of God to be in disobedience to how God has outlined our witnessing to the lost. First PREACH/TEACH THE GOSPEL ABOUT JESUS CHRIST TO THE LOST. AND GIVE YOUR TESTIMONY ABOUT YOUR OWN SALVATION.
And again, I say, you make God a lair if you say your way is best for you, and that its according to your own feelings as to how its to be done. And I say again, for it is written: Let every man bve a lair and God be true!
To be effectve in the spiritual things of God ITS HIS WAY OR NO WAY!... THAT'S THE WORD.
And by the way Chevy, no one has to have patience with me because I am older. What your purpose in doing that?
I have had much patience with you and all those you claim be speaking about in your not knowing God's word, yet you speak much about nothing thinking that you are being spiritual when you're not, and don't know the first things about aspiritual biblical discussion.
In fact, from what I read not many on this forum including you, really know God's word, you speak mainly from your own carnal opions and can't back up nothing you say with God's word. And when you do pull out a scripture, and you THINk fits, you have no understanding as to what the scripture is saying evenough to explain the revelation fo the scripture. Nor do you find the proper scritpure to even relate to the topic. Just because a scripture has the say word on the topic you're speaking about, doesn't mean it is connected to the topic. A spiritual minded person knows the difference, but a carnal minded person can't even began to know the things of God. Becasue a carnal minded person disdains the turth of God's word!
So PLEASE DO ME NO FAVORS BECAUSE OF MY AGE, let's go for it! If you think you can match what I speak spiritually, let it roll!
oh yeah, Cat have you read my original post? I think it would do you well to read it, because this is what led Chevy to start this thread and he and 2sparrow to post their negative comments in opposition to the thread I started on page 2 (two) I'm A Sinner.
They are supposedly so spiritual minded, YET, they missed the whole intent and meaning of the post.
I would be more than happy to Scripturally discuss, except you are so darn quarrelsome and argumentative, intentionally twisting the words of others and turning things into personal attacks that it would be futile to proceed any further and risk getting sucked into your drama. When you are ready to play nice, I'll be happy to discuss with you.
*** I disagree...this whole thread is a Bust HER Chops...that�s the � Truth �...NO ifs ands buts about it...it is what it is...
Shared ~ But Jude if you think the way she picks on others should go ignored I'll have to disagree.
*** And that is your Choice�If she is picking on you than contact her privately and resolve it...Matt 18:15~ � Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.��As far as the Others�they may also contact her�the lines of communication are always open�Appears that Verses 16-17 have been applied afor Verse 15 here�Jus sayin�:winksmile:...
Shared ~ Maybe you aren't reading her rude comments to anyone she doesn't agree with.
*** I read Everything Everybody Writes...Ima very Detail Oriented person...I don�t need to Defend her Admonishments nor Rebukes...They are hers to deal with and those Persons of the Hearts that have been Pricked by it...:glow:...
Shared ~ She praises you a lot and I understand why you want to defend her unkindness but when everyone was picking on P.J., I didn't see you standing up on his behalf very often.
*** Yes ! Ella does praise me a lot lately...We connect on a Spiritual Level�She sees my Progress in Spiritual matters�Are you Jealous ???�You have Praised S71 in the past Battle with Calvinism�Should I be Jealous ??? Ima not�She done a Right Fine Job of Professin GOD�s Truth�:yay:....We are to Always praise the efforts of those that are Younger and Older...Its called LOVE...:hearts:...As far as PJ...We have had our Go-Arounds in the Past...I played into this Very same Kind of Shenanigans...Im Ashamed of Myself for it�I Learned the Lesson then and I will not repeat it...I Love PJ...always have and always will...just like I love Yall...EQUALLY...He does not need me to Defend him...He is a Big Boy and can handle his own...besides he made it clear to me that he doesn�t need my defense...he needs my Love...
Shared ~ I think everyone on this forum has had an enormous amount of patience with Ella because she is an elderly person, but other people here have feelings too. I don�t understand how you can say she�s being picked on. xo too
*** Patience ???...We don�t always get it Our way...Keep working on that...We ALL need Patience with all the Different Personalities here...Ya either Love em or Hate em...I choose to Love...I Leave the Not Likening part to GOD to help with...:rolleyes:...Elderly ???...We are to Respect our Elders even ifin we don't agree with them Period !!!...Feelings ???...[ Generally Speaking ] They are our GOD given Emotions...Ifin ya Give Someone the Power over your Feelings and Take what Someone says Personal...Well...that�s on you�As far as Not Understanding how " I " can say she is being Picked on...Because its the Truth...just as it was the Truth about PJ being picked on...The Truth Sets us Free...and that Aint a Sad Commentary...I Love Yall...Hava GOD Filled and Blessed day...xo
Et, you asked if I had seen your other post, yes I did, after seeing your original post to Chevy and Sparrows.
Now as for attacks, I do not believe Chevy meant his original post to be an attack on ET, he was making a comment.
Sparrows remarks could easily be taken as an attack. I have a special name for sarcasm, it's scarasm. I've been known to use it before, and it can hurt others if not used correctly.
As for ET attacking me, I really don't care if she was or was not. There are posts in here where I do agree with what she says, and the are other posts where I disagree. It's as simple as that.
I don't believe that ET, Chevy or Sparrows has the Bible completely figured out. The simple fact is each one is human and each one is fallible. I do not go by what man says is the final word, I chose to go by what God says is the final word. And if what someone says goes against what I believe the Bible states, I will then pray and read, and let God tell me what He says. Sometimes I change me mind, sometimes, I stand by what I believe.
In this case, I stand by what I said earlier. Methods are different rote ways of witnessing to others. It does not matter the words that you use, as long as you have the core of Salvation included.
Cat, how you even done any street evangelism minstry through your church or on your own? Or have you ever done street ministry on your own? If through your church surely, there were instructions and training as to how to properly witness to others.
If through your church then you should know that there is a proper way to witness to others according to what God has laid out in order for it to be effetives.
Just as there are directives for whatever kind of work you doon your job, in order to accomplish results on your job. And if you go outside of those instructions, your work is not productive and the end results are not accomplished.
When planting a potted plant, when planting a garden whether vegetables or flowers, there are certain prnciples of rules within the instructions as to how to go about planting according to soil, season, weather, so forth.
The word of God is a seed, and He has laid out How HE says believers are to go about planting His seed(the Word) to the unbelievers in order to get postivie results. There is a proper way to become born again, and to be saved, God has laid out His directives ththere is a proper way to pray Jesus showed us this, as I said, God is a God or ORDER, and anything done outside His ORDER is rebellion, and disobedience.
There is a proper way and directives as to how to go fishing with the proper equippment, in order to catch fish. Jesus Christ said we are to become fishermen, fishers of men, and therefore there are spiritual instructions and tools take with us, and we are to follow in order to be productive and plant the seed and catch men for the kingdom of God.
We are to be witnesses of Jesus Christ, and do things God's way or no way at all.
BTW, Cat, you said you read my original post to Chevy and 2sparrow. I don't think you did read the post as to why Chevy started this thread which was attackign what I had posted on the thread "I am a Sinner", it has been moved to page 3. Maybe you should take a run over to page. Then you will understand why Chevy titled the subject matter of this thread as he did, in mockery of what I said which was not directed to any particular person, although it must have pricked their hearts becasue otherwise, we wouldn;t be on this thread nor would it have been necessary for such comments at the atrt of this thread.
I'm very discerning, and even a child would know the reason, comments, and references behind Chevy starting this thread without doubt.
And as I've said if attacks are made toward me, I will indeed respond with fire in the smae spirit as the attack came. And in some case with more harshness. So if they cannot accept what I say, then they had better watch what they say. Don't attack me personally, attack the Word of God, because what I'm speaking is written in the word for those who are spiritual minded to know the difference.
As for me having the bible figued out, I don't think that is a problem that I have, its not about figuring out the Bible, its knowing for surety what God is saying in His word, and coming into the spiritual wisdom, knowledge and undersstandingwith insight into what He is saying.
And I think I have been on the journey much too long to not have all of this together. Maybe figuring out the WORD and how to properly connect the dots of the WORD with self as all scriopture return its focus back to Jesus, and as to what God is saya about Him. Maybe this is Chevy and 2sparrow's problems. I can only based this on what they say in expressing their comments and opinions which cannot for the most part be backed up by what God has said. As we are taught, a carnal minded person is always in opposition to the truth, and this is enimity(hostle) toward God. And when corrected with the truth and unable to defend, there is a tendency to defend ones self with personal attacks on the messenger, instead of the message which is what they are doing. Which puts me in good docmpany, so they did the same to Jesus and the apsotles, and we as believers were foewarned these things would happened.
So I know the spirit of those in oppostion of the truth of God's word, and their methods of attack. I wasn't brn yesterday nor the day before....lol
