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THE CARNAL BELIEVER Part 2
Posted : 26 Jan, 2011 09:14 AM

THE CARNAL BELIEVER

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Service rendered without mercy is ineffective. The penal system of the civilized world is a correctional program, for reintegration of offenders. God has not given us the right to execute judgment unto death! In �we will� judge others, this is not good, it is sin! (Jm 4:13-12 with 17). Those who are into condemning others are living in lasciviousness; and for pleasures on the earth (5:6-5). Rather we are to be patient, or we shall be condemned: For the Judge is at the door (5:7 & 9). Our Lord Jesus Christ was an example of patience (5:10).This is why Patience MUST have its perfect work be done (1:4); Without which we are driven into wrath! (1:6 & 20).



What work are you doing in the name of liberty, which you say is blessed? (1:25). Don�t be blaspheming what we have been called to do, which is to fulfill the royal law of love according to the Scriptures (2:7-8); For we are being judged by this law of liberty (2:12); Wherein we are to show mercy (2:13); Herein we can be profitable warmers of others (2:16). Do you have faith with this perfect work of patience? (2:17-16 with 1:4); Because without which we are in selfishness in all of its contentious vainglory, which is unforgiving AND unloving, because it is without mercy! (Rom 1:29-31).



Know that the judgment of God is upon those who are herein found, because they are without the natural affections of mercy! (1:32-31). These make their boast in the law, while they break the law (2:23); And for this, the name of God IS blasphemed (2:24). These judge by the letter of the law, as the transgressors of the law (of love) (2:27). Outward judgment by the law is in the flesh (2:28-27); Rather we are to discern inwardly in the spirit, which is of God (2:27-29). Faith without THIS work is Dead! (Jm 2:20).



Behold the greater condemnation that is upon those offending men, who are not perfect men that are bridled into obedience [to love] (3:1-3); Because without obedience [to graciously love], we are DRIVEN into fierce winds (3:3-4). God created these (inclement) winds, which are the dark thoughts of men (Am 4:13). We need to be in the wind of God (Jn 3:8). But men love being in this darkness, so that they can be of �their own� deeds (3:19): Wherein God will do unto these the following: He will prepare them to meet their God as Sodom and Gomorrah (Am 4:12-11); And this is because they are in the transgression of the house of God, which has THE LEAVENED OFFERING [the condemnation of being in darkness because of evil doing] (4:4-5 with Jn 3:19).



We are driven by fierce winds, when we are in �our own will� (Jm 3:4). God is the cause of all winds to blow by His power (Ps 78:26). What a marvel it was to men that the winds were in obedience to Jesus (Mt 8:27). Who else can gather wind for our learning unto understanding in His fists? (Pr 30:4-2). The mighty rushing wind of heaven fills us with the Holy Spirit (Ac 2:2 & 4). Don�t be into the disapproved windy speeches of those who are desperate (Job 6:26). Behold the vanity of their own windy confusion because of �their own� works, which are nothing (but evil)! (Is 41:29). Don�t continue to be tossed around unto being carried away by their windy doctrines of men! (Eph 4:4).



The taming of us by mankind is an unruly evil, which is full of deadly poison (Jm 3:7-8). These seek to bless God by cursing men! (3:9). Blessing towards God with cursing of His brethren ought not to be so in the Amen (3:10). Are you bitter-sweet too? (3:11). Those who are without hypocrisy are full of mercy (3:17). These can even sow the fruit of righteousness in peace (3:18); And this is so that you too shall be in the sight of the Lord, who can lift you up into His sight (4:10).



We do not become spiritual because we are into acting morally, wherein we point our spindly fingers into the faces of those we judge to be sinners. The conduct which differs radically from the ordinary cause of this world is neither immorality, nor morality; it is the inclusivity of tender loving mercies. Wherein we are governed by the Holy Spirit against the law without mercy. Because Abraham had a child with a woman, who he was not married to, salvation becomes available to all of humanity (Gal chapters 4-5). Those of the law without mercy judge this activity of Abraham as adulterated lasciviousness, but he was in the leading of the Holy Spirit, and not acting in the flesh! What a disgusting attitude it is to judge the redemptive plan of God by the law no less, when it, redemption, is pure Mercy abounding in a fallen world for all the joy of salvation over damnation! I am in the faith blessed with Abraham as faithful, because I am not in some work of the law [of men, but rather by grace because of God] (Gal 3:9-10).



Rather than glory in our flesh, we should be new creatures, SO THAT WE COULD HAVE THE RULE OF MERCY UPON US (Gal 6:13, 15-16).For only those who ARE Christ�s have crucified their lusts of their flesh (5:24).The fruit of the Spirit is love one another (5:22 and 14). Christ needs to free us into this liberty to love (5:1 and 13). Wherein Abraham had two sons, one by his wife, and another by a concubine (4:22); Wherein we are to rejoice and not persecute a woman who has children without a husband (4:29 and 27); Unless you wish to call Abraham in lust after the flesh; And against the Spirit? (5:17).



Abraham walked in the Spirit without fulfilling the lust of the flesh (5:16); For he was being led by the Spirit, because he was not under the law (5:18). Therefore he was not in the works of the flesh, which are manifest as adulterous fornication in all the uncleanness of lasciviousness (5:19). Do not be deceived, meek and loving Abraham was an inheritor of the kingdom of heaven (5:23-21). The Bible tells us so: for it says that Abraham was faithful (3:9). You are nothing but a foolish son of a biotch [a sorcerer who puts lies off for the truth] with a biotch [bewitched], when you are outside of the obedience to this truth in the works of the law! (3:1-2).



How foolish to be perfect/loving by the works of the flesh, which are under the law! (3:3-2). The law has dominion over a man as long as he is living by the law as a husband (Rom 7:1-2). Women need to be free from this law (7:3); Wherein they become dead to this law, so that they could be married to Christ, so that their fruit/children could be unto God (7:4). For by the law their fruit/children are rather unto death, because they are in their flesh! (7:5). Now, we need to be delivered from this law, if we are going to serve in newness of in spirit (7:6). People can come out of their captivity, if they consider the operation of the Lord (Is 5:13-12 with 2im 2:25-26). We need to be delivered from this wretched captivity! (Rom 7:24-23).

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Posted : 28 Jan, 2011 09:00 AM

Dito...Took the words & thought right out of my mind...xo

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Posted : 28 Jan, 2011 09:12 AM

Jude is Dito a male or female?

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Posted : 28 Jan, 2011 09:28 AM

PJ~ Dito means...In Agreement...xo

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Posted : 28 Jan, 2011 09:49 AM

@Two 2Tim 1:7 It takes the power of God so that we would be without fear to love wherein there is soundness of mind.



Donkeys don't talk about this, and God equips godly people to first believe these things and then speak these things. The Holy Spirit confirming these things are so in the name of Jesus Christ.

And this is the will of God that you would know the mystery of His will by the council of His testimony wherein God sets rule over us, and the question is who knows these things without that rule.



I will give you 1,000 if you can deny this rule exists and is not found in Heb 13. I have all power and authority to speak these things within rebukes which no man is to despise me for (Ts 2:15).

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Posted : 28 Jan, 2011 10:58 AM

Siciliaingirl,

This, my answer to you bears no malice, it is a serious answer in love, prayer and sincerity.

I looked up and read all the Scriptures you provided in your last post. This is what I glean from these and your post : Am I correct to understand that you see yourself in a leadership role here on CDFF?

If this is correct, please allow me to humbly remind you : You referenced Titus 2:15 "These, then are the things you should teach. Encourage and rebuke will all authority. Do not let anyone despise you."

Do you see the word "These" in the above verse? Good, lets go to Titus 2:15 and read ahead of this verse to see what some of "These" things are.

Verses 3-5 "....older women...teach what is good. They can train the younger women to love their husbands and children, to be self-controlled and pure, to be busy at home, to be kind, and to be subject to their husbands, so that no one will malign the word of God."

Verses 7-8 "...In your teaching show integrity, seriousness and soundness of speech that cannot be condemned so that those who oppose you maybe ashamed because they have nothing bad to say about us."

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Posted : 28 Jan, 2011 11:26 AM

Thank you 2Spar...You have done what I believe most Christians " Should " do when reading a Post...Verify the Context of the Scripture...Was it pulled out of the BODY of the Text to fill in the Gaps of what the Poster is Trying to Conveying ??? Which in this Case is the Truth here...

Quoting Scripture is one of the Tools that satan & his lot use to Confuse the Body of Christ Jesus...

Quoting 1 or a few Scriptures for the Purpose of Edification is Always a Good thing...BUT...Pulling Scripture out of Context and Stringing it along is a way of Mis-Dirrecting a persons Focus on the LORD Jesus...

I notice when these types of Posts are Present here...Well...It does Exactly what it is intended to do...Get Yall RILED UP...

SOoo...with that said...ima be Prayin for Yall an Hopein Yall hava GOD/Spirit filled & Blessed day...xo

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Posted : 28 Jan, 2011 01:17 PM

Ok, yawl, hold up for a quick minute. In defense of Siclly (or Silly ...lol) j/j,:yay:

I understand what she is trying to do here. HOWEVER, she is in some cases, using the proper scriptures to make her point, and in certain places she is not using the proper scriptures to bring out what she is trying to say is from God. but she is learning from God some skills in mastering the use of scriptures from through out the Bible to write her article, or story, or exhortation or whattever God has called her to do. This is called COMPILATION OF SCRIPTURES. In fact, she doesn't even know this is what she is doing, all she knows is that she feels led of the Lord do this, put scripture passages together but she really doesn't understand what she is doing, but she is being obedient. And that's all that counts to God, she is obeying. He will teach her more...

The problem does not lie in that she is MIS-USING SCRIPTURES, BUT THE PROBLEM LIES IN THAT SHE IS NOT USING THE PROPER SCRIPTURES FOR THE MESSAGE SHE IS TRYING TO RELAY TO OTHERS. Remember, the foolishness of God is more wiser THAN anything man(you or I) could ever come up with. AND GOD ALWAYS USES THE FOOLIH THINGS TO CONFOUND THOSE WHO THINK THEY HAVE THE ANSWER, AND DECEIVE THEMSLEVES BECASUE THEY THINK THEY ARE WISE IN THEIR OWN MINDS. Just because you don't understand what is going on, doesn't mean God isn't in it. Who know the mind of God especiall, when He has already said He would do a NEW THING and we will not believe it even when we see it or hear about it, or is told by another person about it.

I personally, have written complete articles using the technique of Complication of Ccriptures, which only means using a collection of Scriptures God's word to form what it is God would have of you to speak. After all, there is nothing more for God to speak to us outside his Word that has not already been written. Therefore, there is nothing new under the sun, and what's being said today, was said in ages past, there aren't many words to be said especially, that man can come up with regarding God or Jesus or salvation. And what's being done today, has also been done ages ago.

So for your edification, Siclly, at first thought I couldn't figure it out what in the world she was trying to do or say, until God revealed it to me that she is doing the same thing He has from time to time had me to do.

In fact, you can check out my article at www.christianwomen.net its titled "Search Me, O, Lord", or google, and read, and you will find my Compliation of Scriptures used to put togeher this article, and that its all Scripture form the outh of God in the Bible put together as God led me to do so.

Siclly just isn't using the proper scriptures to say what God has for herr to say therefore, its coming off rather demonic, ONLY because it becomes twisted and is not what God is saying for such a time as this.

Yeah, as GJ said the devil quoted scriptures, and what the devil said was right, but it became twisted, because it did not apply to the situation inwhich Jesus was experiencing, and the devil quoted what God said for his own gains, this is what made the devil a liar.But just becasue Sicly is learning what God has given her, doesn't make her of the devil or being used by the devil. And just because you don't understand doesn't mean you not spiritual minded or evil, it just mean yu don't understand what is going on, and she reall doesn't know what she's doing therefore, is unable to expleain it to you.

BTW, SICLY, a word toyou from an old seasoned Christian lady who has been in ministry for over 27 years... your boasting using scripturual and without a cause to boast, thus making it not so good. First of all you have no idea as to what you're doing, with mastery, to have authority over anyone, nor do you have enough knowledge or understanding in what you're doing to boast about anyhitng. So cut your boasting, you ain't got no powernor authority in spiritual matters to boast, God is trying to teach you a spiritual skill ofr speaking His word to minister to others.

Hope this help everyone...

Oh, and another thing, the pastors/ministers you claim to be helping oversea, third world countries are always hungry for the Word of God and their faith is such that they believe many things from many different good and false teachers from America.Yet many will take the truth and continue to mix it with their witchcarft beliefs, and praise God at the same time... Plaise God if your work is helping, but its nothing for you to boast in, God is only using you as His instrument... you have nothing to boast about, NOT BEFORE GOD OR MAN!

ella

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Posted : 28 Jan, 2011 01:20 PM

:ROFL: PJ, sometimes you an come up with some good stuff, that was too funnne! Jude, PJ knew what you were talkin about, he wasn't serious as if he didn't know, he was being funnee... that was good PJ...:peace::ROFL::applause:

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Posted : 28 Jan, 2011 01:29 PM

bad typos, but yawl get my point...got questions, ask of me...:glow:

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Posted : 28 Jan, 2011 02:23 PM

Yup ! KJV James 1:5~If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him....xo

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