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Posted : 19 Jan, 2011 11:45 AM

The law of sowing and reaping



The law of faith



These two laws where established from the beginning of man in Genesis, they are in operation on the earth and you are operating whether you realize it or not.



Do you operate these laws in the light of the word of God?



Do you operate them in light of the will of man?

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Posted : 23 Jan, 2011 03:03 PM

I am sorry you have been blinded. I will pray that God give you eyes to see. We are NOT little gods running around. The bible teaches of our depravity from cover to cover.



Your doctrine would be possible only if you throw out large parts of the bible. There are no contradictions. If there are scriptures that oppose your view, you are wrong. It is just that simple.



How does your dominion theology explain this: 1Pe 4:11 If anyone speaks, let him speak as the oracles of God. If anyone ministers, let him do it as with the ability which God supplies, that in all things God may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom belong the glory and the dominion forever and ever. Amen.



Jesus has dominion of all things, not man. We were given stewardship of the earth (dominion), but it was over the physical, not the supernatural. You have been seduced by false prophets. Read your WHOLE bible, and pray that God reveal the truth to you.



Satan offered dominion of the earth to Christ when he was tempting Him. Now Jesus has dominion. Yes, we should ask for what we want, but God does not need our permission to move. Ask Saul if he asked Jesus to stop him on the Damascus road. Ask Balaam if he asked God to bless Israel when he opened his mouth to curse them. Ask the 400 prophets of Ahab if they asked God to send an angel to be a lying spirit in their mouths. Ask Joseph if he asked God to have him sold into slavery to save his family. I can go on all day. Dominion Theology is pure demonic. It is the age old attempt of man to be God.



Leon



PS Here's one more for you. Mat 6:8 "Therefore do not be like them. For your Father knows the things you have need of before you ask Him.

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Posted : 23 Jan, 2011 03:36 PM

PJ and Leon,

Glad to see this is going somewhere before it drops off the first page!

I actually agree with both of you :

A old time hand water pump needs to be primed before it will pump water. We used to keep a can of water by the pump after we primed it to pump water we filled the can back up for the next guy.

Faith kinda works the same way, God gives the water to prime the pump, we use it to get more water.

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Posted : 24 Jan, 2011 08:20 AM

Well actually the post proves the point, the seed will produce a harvest, even the seed is corrupted, because of the law of sowing and reaping it is working all the time.



The question is what kind of seed is whosoever putting in his heart, by what he chooses to hear and believe?

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Posted : 24 Jan, 2011 08:46 AM

Poor PJ,



It just keeps getting harder and harder to hold onto that false doctrine in the face of overwhelming scripture rebuke. I understand the denial. I went to a Pentecostal bible college. Only by reading the entire bible, several times, and much prayer and fasting, was I able to admit that my beliefs were not scriptural.



Then, after more study, I saw why Jacobus Arminius was denounced as a heretic for this same belief. It is evil, through and through. Paul explains over and over again, why God did it all for us, outside of any act on our part. That reason was, so no one could boast.



Look what that demonic belief has led us to. You claiming God cannot act outside of your will. That is what you are saying when you say God can do nothing unless we ask Him to. We do NOT control God, ever. That one statement puts man above God and is beyond heresy, it is blasphemy.



Two, I like your example, except you forgot to mention that the pump and the well were all given to you by the same One that gave you the priming water. How then, could you claim that you were the one that made drinking possible?



Keep looking up!

Leon

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Posted : 25 Jan, 2011 08:07 AM

Well you have made it very clear As you always kl, you are not in agreement with scripture, your denial does not make my faith denial, my faith always produces according to the word of God not the word of man.

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Posted : 25 Jan, 2011 09:58 AM

That statement might be believable, if you actually knew the word of God. All you do is twist it to your own destruction.

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Posted : 26 Jan, 2011 06:52 AM

Leon does your unbelief, make one faith null and void?



Mt 13:58 And he did not many mighty works there because of their unbelief.



Mr 16:14 Afterward he appeared unto the eleven as they sat at meat, and upbraided them with their unbelief and hardness of heart,



Ro 3:3 For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect?



Ro 11:20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:



Heb 3:12 Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.



Heb 3:19 So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief.



Heb 4:6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:



Heb 4:2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.

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