so there is the question : Is it okay for a man to sleep with a man? And if not how do you know? Who taught this? Did YAHSHUA teach this? IF not then were does it come from?
If it came from the Torah and the old law is done away with then does that mean since i don't remember YAHSHUA teaching on it that it is one of the old laws to be done away with? So now can men sleep with men if the old law is gone??
so there is the question : Is it okay for a man to sleep with a man? And if not how do you know? Who taught this? Did YAHSHUA teach this? IF not then were does it come from?
I see that there are some who have their hair all tied up in knots because of a question.
Just a question..
What will you be doing when you are being railed upon spit on,hit and beaten for the Gospel of Yeshua..
Please read the following Scriptures and have a fit with YHWH.
Ecc 4:7 Then I returned, and I saw vanity under the sun.
Ecc 4:8 There is one alone, and there is not a second; yea, he hath neither child nor brother: yet is there no end of all his labour; neither is his eye satisfied with riches; neither saith he, For whom do I labour, and bereave my soul of good? This is also vanity, yea, it is a sore travail.
Ecc 4:9 Two are better than one; because they have a good reward for their labour.
Ecc 4:10 For if they fall, the one will lift up his fellow: but woe to him that is alone when he falleth; for he hath not another to help him up.
Ecc 4:11 Again, if two lie together, then they have heat: but how can one be warm alone?
Ecc 4:12 And if one prevail against him, two shall withstand him; and a threefold cord is not quickly broken.
This Scripture is told,taught and applied to by the U.S. armed forces....
Yes,the Airborne Rangers,and the others are big on the buddy system....
So stick that in your smoke and pipe it....
Someone here has said that sleeping with someone is different then having s_x with them,Yes that is true....
Remember Yeshua deals with the heart or His people.
When the heart has been rightly dealt with,then the symptoms (sin-s) will be dealt with also...
Stop watching all that Television,it seems to have clouded your minds.....
In Agape'
Shalom and Chesed:
St.George
ps.Yes Homos_xuality,Lesbi-anism,and other such sins are against YHWH,yet there is only one sin in which there is not forgiveness,in this life or the next...
Mark 3:28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:
Mark 3:29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:
Mark 3:30 Because they said, He hath an unclean spirit.
My middle daughter is gay, and she was raised with the truth she knows it and she has said to me with a dead cold stone face saying that she'd rather be happy in her relationship with her partner now and go to hell than be miserable here on earth and go to heaven.
I'll tell you from experience there is no talking to them regarding "homosexual" sin. God has to soften their heart and then that gives a opening for us to be there to share Him.
As a mother this is the most heartbreaking thing you could ever experience.
Please remember that the Old Covenant Word of YHWH had been written in Aramaic and Hebrew.
The New Covenant had been written in Greek..
When reading and studying the Scriptures,remember the people this was written to, the cultures,times,places and and conditions the people were under..
They were not Americans.
They did not have the modern conveiences and machines we have today..
The Hebrews were an Agrarian ( I could use a dictionary myself hahaha) society..
This is part of the problem we have in America (The Homeland,Oh so sorry),we simply do not know how to read and understand the Word of YHWH,Well some do.
To bad people are not being taught how to read and understand the Word of YHWH.
My middle daughter is gay, and she was raised with the truth she knows it and she has said to me with a dead cold stone face saying that she'd rather be happy in her relationship with her partner now and go to hell than be miserable here on earth and go to heaven.
I'll tell you from experience there is no talking to them regarding "homosexual" sin. God has to soften their heart and then that gives a opening for us to be there to share Him.
As a mother this is the most heartbreaking thing you could ever experience. "
You've already bought into the homosexual lie, sister, by trying to shut down Christians boldly proclaiming the truth to OTHER CHRISTIANS. We're not engaged in evangelism, here, and we're talking to one another online -- in probably the most anonymous, safest ways to talk -- and still it's unacceptable to proclaim the truth?
Wow. That sounds an awful lot like "quenching the Spirit" to me.
Hummmm�.So�Trucker believes some here have their hair tied up in knots�HA HA�Thats funny...:nahnah:
Since we are simply expressing GOD's written Word and Truth...Some are not Hearing what they Want to Hear and its not to their likeing...A person can Look at it�Hear it�anyway they want...the Question is...Do they Understand ? BTW Trucker�There is other Christians here that do Understand how to Study and Interpret the Scripture and Written Word�and we wouldnt want to Mis-Lead a Brethren...
IMHO I believe Trucker has brought a Different Perspective and some Understanding to the Thread and I am so glad you have told Beachbunny what She wanted to hear...and that it makes sense to Her...But that is not what GOD says about Homosexuality!!!...
Yes All SIN is Forgivable with the Exception of SIN against the HOLY SPIRIT...GOD must as Beachbunny stated ( and I do agree with her here ) Soften their Heart�.So they may Humbly come to the LORD, Repent and be Forgiven of the SIN...and as JESUS* says...SIN NO MORE....Forgiveness of SIN is not a License to Continue it...
There is No Sugar Coating Here...not from me anyway and never will be. We should All be supporting Beachbunny and her daughter in Prayer now that Her Sadness has been shared openly�My heart goes out to you being heavy laden in heart�and You being a Strong Christian Women in Christ Jesus*�you already know where to lay that burden�Know that you are not alone here and there and I will be Praying for You and Yours�xo
When a man sleeps with his son,is he having s-x with the boy,absolutely not.
By the way,my post was not to coddle beachbunny or any one else on this site...
My posting is from the Word,and the way that it can,and has been applied.
Question:
Two men or two women driving in a car during the winter in North Dakota slide off the highway during a white out snowstorm,and no one notices this.
They are trapped in the car for a few days,having only one sleeping bag between them.
The one is a Christian the other is not.
The Christian has the Holy Spirit bring to their mind this passage of Scripture.
Ecc 4:9 Two are better than one; because they have a good reward for their labour.
Ecc 4:10 For if they fall, the one will lift up his fellow: but woe to him that is alone when he falleth; for he hath not another to help him up.
Ecc 4:11 Again, if two lie together, then they have heat: but how can one be warm alone?
Yet the Christian says;NO WAY
Act 10:13 And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat.
Act 10:14 But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.
Then they bth perish,when they both could have had heat,and the Christian could have witnessed and been a witness of Yeshua.
Mat 5:7 Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.
Mat 20:29 And as they departed from Jericho, a great multitude followed him.
Mat 20:30 And, behold, two blind men sitting by the way side, when they heard that Jesus passed by, cried out, saying, Have mercy on us, O Lord, thou Son of David.
Mat 20:31 And the multitude rebuked them, because they should hold their peace: but they cried the more, saying, Have mercy on us, O Lord, thou Son of David.
Mat 20:32 And Jesus stood still, and called them, and said, What will ye that I shall do unto you?
Mat 20:33 They say unto him, Lord, that our eyes may be opened.
Mat 20:34 So Jesus had compassion on them, and touched their eyes: and immediately their eyes received sight, and they followed him.
Maybe these two blind men did everything together,seeing that they were outcasts of society.
Could they have slept together to keep warm,and to know where the other was ?
I am not abdicating sin,just looking at this from the point of
the only one who is Omniscient....
Remember,there is more than one way to cut,cook and serve apples.
Trucker...I got that...Good Job...but Open your eyes man...The Thread has swerved to a Women burdened in heavy Heart of her daughter and homosexuality...Im purty sure Ice would Agree to Minister and Pray for her...so with that said...
This aint Burger King but Yall can Have it Your Way...Via Con Dias...Hava a Great Weekend and dont forget to PRAY...xo
I am very sorry to hear about your child living in darkness. But I would like to exhort you to continue to pray for her and tell her the TRUTH about what GOD says about her lifestyle, and her fresh remarks to you about her lifestyle.
She may THINK she is happy now with her partner, but this too is a LIE of the devil who has her convienced that being in a relationship with another woman makes her happy. The hell of the Bible is nothing to play around with, and I don't think she knows the eternal consequence of burning forever in eternity. Maybe you can help her out a little by reading for her what hell is all about in Revelation. Its a REAL PLACE that burns with everlasting fire. So ask her if her so-called happiness with another woman is worth burning in eternity. Cuzzzz, There ain't no air conditions in hell:ROFL::excited::rocknroll:
The miserable here on earth, than to go to heaven, I would think justifies the end, and the end justifies the means. Surely, by this statement we know she doesnt even know what she speaks, it is the spirit of darkness that is speaking through her.
God never created her to lay with another woman, nor is it His desire for her to spend eternal life in hell.
Your mother's prayer avail much, you are her prayer covering and protection. Please continue to pray for her, and ask God to be your strength and to deliver her. He hears and He will answer in due season.
Homosexuality is a demonic spirit of the mind from satan, and she must be set free in the name of Jesus Christ by the renewing of her mind. And as her mother, God honors the prayers of every praying mother for her children, and He gives you the authority and powerto work mircles thorugh your prayers, more than you know.
May God's blessing be yours... :glow::angel::prayingf:
Silver, that wasn't my intent really. I see the HATE that is displayed from so called "Christians" regarding homosexuals and I cringe because that is my child. I agree whole heartily with what ET says that she has no idea about what she is talking about and all I can do is pray for her, and I do. I know she is not happy, I can hear it in her voice and see it on her face. Yet she won't admit it to me.
