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Posted : 11 Sep, 2010 02:53 PM

Lu 4:18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,



The Word Gospel being understood as good news, glad tidings.esus



Why not look at Jesus and his proclaiming the good news:



Mt 4:23 And Jesus went about all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing all manner of sickness and all manner of disease among the people.



Mt 9:35 And Jesus went about all the cities and villages, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing every sickness and every disease among the people.



Mt 11:5 The blind receive their sight, and the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, and the deaf hear, the dead are raised up, and the poor have the gospel preached to them.



It always amazes me how somehow some come up with the Statement Jesus requires you to repent of all your sins.



Why do you suppose Jesus never preached that?



Jesus came that man would no longer have to be separated from

God, the father's desire was to redeem man from Satan's dominion's and all his curses.



The church's message to the world is very simple



2nd Corinthians 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

2nd Cor. 5:18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;

2nd Cor 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.



2nd Corinthians 5:17

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Posted : 11 Sep, 2010 05:43 PM

@ PJ:



Hey PJ,thanks for sharing the Word of gOD with me.



Lu 4:18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised.



You forgot to post the rest of this Messianic Scripture.

Luk 4:19 To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.



These next two verses show the results of the proclomation of the Gospel.

Mt 4:23 And Jesus went about all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing all manner of sickness and all manner of disease among the people.



Mt 9:35 And Jesus went about all the cities and villages, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing every sickness and every disease among the people.



We also see these same results from Mark,



Mar 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

Mar 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Mar 16:17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

Mar 16:18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

Mar 16:19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.

Mar 16:20 And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen.





This next Sripture you posted is in response to Johns question about Yeshua being the Messiah.



Mt 11:5 The blind receive their sight, and the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, and the deaf hear, the dead are raised up, and the poor have the gospel preached to them.



Matt 11:2 Now when John had heard in the prison the works of Christ, he sent two of his disciples,

Matt 11:3 And said unto him, Art thou he that should come, or do we look for another?

Matt 11:4 Jesus answered and said unto them, Go and shew John again those things which ye do hear and see:

Matt 11:5 The blind receive their sight, and the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, and the deaf hear, the dead are raised up, and the poor have the gospel preached to them.

Matt 11:6 And blessed is he, whosoever shall not be offended in me.



This Sripture you posted says:



2nd Corinthians 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.



Old things are passing away,and all things are becoming new.

In the mind of man,this is talking about a process of change:

In the mind of GOD,this act is already accomplished.



This word for new,is the Greek word 'καινός kainos'

This newness is to have or to be something that was not there before.

G2537

καινός

kainos

Thayer Definition:

1) new

1a) as respects form

1a1) recently made, fresh, recent, unused, unworn

1b) as respects substance

1b1) of a new kind, unprecedented, novel, uncommon, unheard of

Part of Speech: adjective

A Related Word by Thayer�s/Strong�s Number: of uncertain affinity

Citing in TDNT: 3:447, 388.



2nd Cor. 5:18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;

This should be pretty self explainatory..

Everyone is in the Ministry.



2nd Cor 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.



This last verse is the Gospel in a few words.



PJ:Yes i need to hear the Gospel every day,to remind me of the Lord and His Love for me..



Shalom and Chesed:

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Posted : 11 Sep, 2010 05:44 PM

Ok lets look at 2 Corinthians 12:21

I am afraid that when I come again my God will humble me before you, and I will be grieved over many who have sinned earlier and have not repented of the impurity, sexual sin and debauchery in which they have indulged.

In this context - Repent (change one's mind of) impurity, sexual sin and debauchery.



Who said you had to remember every sin? You have to have a change of mind about sin. You have to see sin for what it. There is a why to jog a persons memory of the sins they've committed.

You shall have no other gods before me - Yes Lord I did that I repent of putting other gods before you.

You shall not make for yourself an idol - Yes Lord I did that I repent for all the time a made idols.

Do not take the name of the Lord in vain - Yes Lord I used your name in vain many times and I repent.

I think you get the idea

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Posted : 11 Sep, 2010 06:10 PM

I get it, this post was in reference to one saying it is a watered down Gospel if sinners where not told to repent of sin, my point is that was never taught concerning bringing one into faith and the family. I am well aware of sin and it's ugly head.

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Posted : 11 Sep, 2010 06:21 PM

What do you suggest we tell sinners?

I am not trying to be disrespectful towards you now like I usally am, I genuinly would like a straight simple answer from you about this. And please don't asnswer with a riddle or talk in circles.

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Posted : 11 Sep, 2010 06:41 PM

I would like everyone to know what repentance is;



Repent:We pent and do it again:RE-PENT.

HAhahahaha,i get kind of ridiculous when i get tired...



Repentance is never meant to save a person as some on this site have stated.

If this is the case then Yeshua died in vain;and I and some others are in a lot of trouble.



Either repenting of ones sins saves them,or Yehsua saves them..

Only one can be the Saviour.



Either repentance sustains ones relationship with YHWH,

Or Yeshua sustains the relationship.



If this is dependant upon me,then I happen to be in real trouble.

For I happen to be trusting Yeshua for all this and more.



Shalom and Chesed:

St.George

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Posted : 11 Sep, 2010 11:44 PM

Philip John do you feel there is no need to say you are sorry to YAHSHUA for your sins?

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Posted : 12 Sep, 2010 03:53 AM

hey and one more thing i wanted to suggest,,now please take this as my loving heart felt suggestion but wow i know i'm gonna hear it from somebody for this: so the Scriptures were given and written by people from Israel with this is mind,,i saw that one of you put some greek words up but instead of looking to the greek look to the Hebrew,,,the greeks did not always know what the Hebrews were talking about because Hebrew did not have punctuation then so some words that are written the same could have been translated wrong,,like in Zekaryah (Zechariah) 5 go read it now after you are finished every time you see the word woman replace it with fire,,

802 'ishshah ish-shaw' feminine of 376 or 582; irregular plural, nashiym {naw-sheem'}; a woman (used in the same wide sense as 582):--(adulter)ess, each, every, female, X many, + none, one, + together, wife, woman. Often unexpressed in English.



'eshshah esh-shaw' feminine of 784; fire:--fire.



the words are very similar woman('ishshah) and fire('eshshah) because this was not the usual word for woman and written without punctuation it would have been hard for the greeks to know,,it's like if you were reading the word toboggan in something a thousand years from now that was written in the south and by someone in the south well at least from NC they would be talking about a hat you wear on your head but the definition of the word is sled and people in new england area call it a sled ,,,so see what i mean,,now i know i have gone too far with this and there will be a slew of replies about how i am wrong about Zechariah's prophecy but besides that i wish you who are trying to teach or make a point would try to research the Hebrew words not any other language,,this WORD was not only given to Israel it was preached there first too,,the Torah was to be lived by them and they are to be still to this day a light to the nations,,and even though you may think you are on a different side,,,,there is a huge Messianic movement going on where people are learning about the Feast of YHWH and many are wanting to hear the truth about their pagan traditions they celebrate and get on with the true holidays,,,hahahaha boy there you go who wants some of that???? hahaha yeah it's true christmas is pagan so is easter and why does it matter if you do and say you do it to HIM well you ask HIM that,,,anyway so my point is look up the Hebrew and you will find so much more especially if you look at the ideographs,,they show you such a wonderful picture,,, start with the word "pitch"

phillipjohn

and while i am here and have your attention do you know that if you spent more time researching the Hebrew maybe you wouldn't have so much time to pick fights with people,,live the WORD i know i know i don't know you,,you are a model christian and you have it all under wraps cause it's all under the blood right,,,hahaha sorry go out a help some poor people rather than spending your time arguing with people ,,i am sure your a really nice guy but it is true what people say about you on here,,you pop in and talk in riddles,,come on really you think that YAHSHUA just said REPENT but we don't know the meaning and that HE didn't mean that come on brother,,where is this coming from??? do you just like to argue??? i know people that do and that is fine but these people are your brothers and sisters man,,don't be a stumbling block,,up-lift them with the truth brother not this well HE didn't mean that stuff it plain truth,,,



2398 chata' khaw-taw' a primitive root; properly, to miss; hence (figuratively and generally) to sin; by inference, to forfeit, lack, expiate, repent, (causatively) lead astray, condemn:--bear the blame, cleanse, commit (sin), by fault, harm he hath done, loss, miss, (make) offend(-er), offer for sin, purge, purify (self), make reconciliation, (cause, make) sin(-ful, -ness), trespass.



5162 nacham naw-kham' a primitive root; properly, to sigh, i.e. breathe strongly; by implication, to be sorry, i.e. (in a favorable sense) to pity, console or (reflexively) rue; or (unfavorably) to avenge (oneself):--comfort (self), ease (one's self), repent(-er,-ing, self).



and here is just a list of times it is used you don't have to read it all but just look at the size of this word that wasn't preached:::::LOVE YOU !!!!!!!!!!!



Mat 3:2 And2532 saying3004 , Repent ye3340 : for1063 the kingdom932 of heaven3772 is at hand1448 .

Mat 4:17 From575 that time5119 Jesus2424 began756 to preach2784 , and2532 to say3004 , Repent3340 : for1063 the kingdom932 of heaven3772 is at hand1448 .

Mat 11:20 Then5119 began he756 to upbraid3679 the cities4172 wherein17223739 most4118 of his846 mighty works1411 were done1096 , because3754 they repented3340 not3756:

Mat 11:21 Woe3759 unto thee4671, Chorazin5523! woe3759 unto thee4671, Bethsaida966! for3754 if1487 the mighty works1411, which3588 were done1096 in1722 you5213, had been done1096 in1722 Tyre5184 and2532 Sidon4605, they would have repented3340 long ago3023819 in1722 sackcloth4526 and2532 ashes4700.

Mat 12:41 The men435 of Nineveh3536 shall rise450 in1722 judgment2920 with3326 this5026 generation1074, and2532 shall condemn2632 it846: because3754 they repented3340 at1519 the preaching2782 of Jonas2495; and2532, behold2400 , a greater than4119 Jonas2495 [is] here5602.

Mar 1:15 And2532 saying3004 ,3754 The time2540 is fulfilled4137 , and2532 the kingdom932 of God2316 is at hand1448 : repent ye3340 , and2532 believe4100 1722 the gospel2098.

Mar 6:12 And2532 they went out1831 , and preached2784 that2443 men should repent3340 .

Luk 10:13 Woe3759 unto thee4671, Chorazin5523! woe3759 unto thee4671, Bethsaida966! for3754 if1487 the mighty works1411 had been done1096 in1722 Tyre5184 and2532 Sidon4605, which3588 have been done1096 in1722 you5213, they had33400 a great while ago3819 repented3340 , sitting2521 in3021722 sackcloth4526 and2532 ashes4700.

Luk 11:32 The men435 of Nineve3535 shall rise up450 in1722 the judgment2920 with3326 this5026 generation1074, and2532 shall condemn2632 it846: for3754 they repented3340 at1519 the preaching2782 of Jonas2495; and2532, behold2400 , a greater than4119 Jonas2495 [is] here5602.

Luk 13:3 I tell3004 you5213, Nay3780: but235, except3362 ye repent3340 , ye shall6220 all3956 likewise5615 perish622 .

Luk 13:5 I tell3004 you5213, Nay3780: but235, except3362 ye repent3340 , ye shall6220 all3956 likewise3668 perish622 .

Luk 15:7 I say3004 unto you5213, that3754 likewise3779 joy5479 shall be2071 in1722 heaven3772 over1909 one1520 sinner268 that repenteth3340 , more than2228 over1909 ninety and nine1768 just persons1342, which3748 need2192 5532 no3756 repentance3341.

Luk 15:10 Likewise3779, I say3004 unto you5213, there is1096 joy5479 in the presence1799 of the angels32 of God2316 over1909 one1520 sinner268 that repenteth3340 .

Luk 16:30 And1161 he said2036 , Nay3780, father3962 Abraham11: but235 if1437 one5100 went4198 unto4314 them846 from575 the dead3498, they will repent3340 .

Luk 17:3 Take heed4337 to yourselves1438: If11611437 thy4675 brother80 trespass264 against1519 thee4571, rebuke2008 him846; and2532 if1437 he repent3340 , forgive863 him846.

Luk 17:4 And2532 if1437 he trespass264 against1519 thee4571 seven times2034 in a day2250, and2532 seven times2034 in a day2250 turn again1994 to1909 thee4571, saying3004 , I repent3340 ; thou shalt forgive863 him846.

Act 2:38 Then1161 Peter4074 said5346 unto4314 them846, Repent3340 , and2532 be baptized907 every one1538 of you5216 in1909 the name3686 of Jesus2424 Christ5547 for1519 the remission859 of sins266, and2532 ye shall receive2983 the gift1431 of the Holy40 Ghost4151.

Act 3:19 Repent ye3340 therefore3767, and2532 be converted1994 , that1519 your5216 sins266 may be blotted out1813 , when3704 the times2540 of refreshing403 shall come3022064 from575 the presence4383 of the Lord2962;

Act 8:22 Repent3340 therefore3767 of575 this5026 thy4675 wickedness2549, and2532 pray1189 God2316, if1487 perhaps686 the thought1963 of thine4675 heart2588 may be forgiven863 thee4671.

Act 17:30 And33033767 the times5550 of this ignorance52 God2316 winked at5237 ; but now3569 commandeth3853 all3956 men444 every where3837 to repent3340 :

Act 26:20 But235 shewed518 518 first4412 unto them of1722 Damascus1154, and2532 at Jerusalem2414, and5037 throughout1519 all3956 the coasts5561 of Judaea2449, and2532 [then] to the Gentiles1484, that they should repent3340 and2532 turn1994 to1909 God2316, and do4238 works2041 meet514 for repentance3341.

2Cr 12:21 [And] lest3361, when I come2064 again3825, my3450 God2316 will humble5013 me3165 among4314 you5209, and2532 [that] I shall bewail3996 many4183 which3588 have sinned already4258 , and2532 have33400 not3361 repented3340 of1909 the uncleanness167 and2532 fornication4202 and2532 lasciviousness766 which3739 they have committed4238 .

Rev 2:5 Remember3421 therefore3767 from whence4159 thou art fallen1601 , and2532 repent3340 , and2532 do4160 the first4413 works2041; or else1490 I will come2064 unto thee4671 quickly5035, and2532 will remove2795 thy4675 candlestick3087 out of1537 his846 place5117, except3362 thou repent3340 .

Rev 2:16 Repent3340 ; or else1490 I will come2064 unto thee4671 quickly5035, and2532 will fight4170 against3326 them846 with1722 the sword4501 of my3450 mouth4750.

Rev 2:21 And2532 I gave1325 her846 space5550 to2443 repent3340 of1537 her846 fornication4202; and2532 she repented3340 not3756.





i want you to know i love you very much and none of this was written with ill feelings or meanness,,i really love you i am just saying your a grow man arguing with people all the time go do something with you time,,,i say that with love ,,,okay so now let it out come on give it to me,,just remember i have no hate for you,,you can tell me what you think with love hahaha love love love love our MESSIAH YAHSHUA the SON of YAHWAH ELOHIM,,,

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Posted : 12 Sep, 2010 03:55 AM

sorry i used Strong's Hebrew Lexicon and Blue Letter Bible for this love letter

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Posted : 12 Sep, 2010 10:48 AM

I am not arguing are you Ice Bro, In my experience with those that always want to go talk about other languages, seem to need a lot of attention to themselves.



But as you know all things you probable already know that, but I do not agree with you when there are those proclaiming that is not the word of God, it is not ok.

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Posted : 12 Sep, 2010 10:54 AM

I understand the Gospel I have no problem with that, what I said it is not the Gospel to tell people they have to repent of their sins.



I believe is the same as Jesus preached and will bring the same results today, for he is the same yesterday and forever.



So if you do not want a water down Gospel, tell people they come come to the father, their sins are not imputed against them, in God's eyes they are already reconciled unto him, by Jesus's substitute.

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