I'm starting part two of this topic because the first part has moved to page 2. this topic is based on I Corinthinas chpater 7, wherein Paul give us the principles of marriage, being single, widows, divorce, and SEX.
Shep, I read your comments and as GJ and I both knew your point, you are one of those guys who feel that you can't be in a relationship without sex, because it is a natural and it satisfies your fleshy needs and desires. Well, isn't that what sin does?
Paul tell us in Romasn chpater 8. that once we have been truly been born again and converted, we are no longer in debt to satsifythe lusts our flesh, but we are in debt to satisfy and be pleasing to God through te obeying of the leadership of the Holy Spirit, who lives inside of us. That is of course, IF YOU ARE TRULY, or INDEED as Paul writes saved. You should example yourself to see if you are indeed in Christ and have been converted.
Please take 30 minutes out and read Romans chpaters 5-8, and be enlightened, in what God has to say about sin and satisfying the lust thereof...
Many women beleive the lie, and drink the kool-aid from men who believe as you do, that sex is natural outside of a relationship, and a man must have his needs met.
I have often wondered, why it is that a man thinks like this, because if it only takes 5 minutes to be staisfied and have his needs met, what's his purpose, because he is still unfulfilled emotionally after sex for life.aaaannnnnd?:ribbit::goofball::excited:
I think Leon is the one who said, what Paul has written is not just for the young, but its also for the middle aged and the old aged.
And this is the pont I am making, God's word is for all ages. The passages of scriture you quoted has not one thing to do with I Corinthinas chapter 7, you're only trying to justify your own personal believes that sex outside of marriage of okay. God's word say flee, RUN away from fornication, becasue it is a dangerous deed not only to the fleah(body) but the consequences are great. This is why many women and men can't disconnect themsleves when a relationship is over, they have connected what God has created to happen between two people as a couple, and joined into a covenant as one, and are not married.
Sin is always fun and enjoyable, that;s why we ALL stayed sinners for so long. But if you say you are a born again believer in jesus Christ, the sins of your past should no longer have control over you, but as Paul says, you should have self-control over them, And if God says itcan be done thorugh the pwoer of the Holy Spirit then it can be done... that is if you have surrendered totally to the Holy Spirit, and been converted from inside out. There is no longer a desire for those thing that once had you in bondage to sin.
No, that's not what I'm saying, but what Jesus is saying is that those who do not have sexual desires make the choice to stay single which is a good thing, because otherwise, it would give cause for adultery in a marriage if one partner has no sexual desire, and the other one does.
This is why Jesus says some men make the choice to become eunuchs because they have no sexul desiresor are able to control their desires, and have self control to maintian those sexual desires they do have, for the work of the minsitry. And some were born without sexual desires from birth.
Shep shared ~If you say no sex before marriage, then what exactly is your definition of marriage? .
*** The bases for marriage is found in the book of Genisis�GOD saw that Adam was the only ONE of His kind�Adam needed a Companion in the flesh�after all even though Adam had all them critters�well�they cant talk with ya the same as a person�Soooo�GOD created Eve as His HelpMeet�Companionship, Helper an of course for Procreation�and refer back ta the other page where I shared that Adam � Knew� Eve prior ta the Deception by Satan ( Gen 3 ) an Prior to there Couplein for Procreation in ( Gen 4 ) Marriage is a Partnership betwixt GOD/Man/Women�Ifin it is not�then it is most likey�based upon�:rolleyes:�an Unevenly Yolked�
Shared ~ Is this your basis for bashing all Christian men in the OP.
*** Ima not sure what OP means but�No�this is a discussion bout Flesh & GODs Great Work an Who are We�ALL of Us�Men an Women ta Dis-respect an Break the Covenant that He set from the Beginin�
Shared ~ 1 Cor 7 says marriage is for sexual temptations.
*** Ummmm no where does it say Sexual, but the point of the this Book in the Bible is ta Point a Clear an Obedient Pathway of handlein the Sexual tendancys as well as the Sinful ones�Its always bout Choices�:excited:
Shared ~ I really don't understand what you expect.
*** I believe Men an Women should not expect anything�for persons never meet anyone elses expectations�But speakin for myself here only�I wont settle for less than what my Father wants for me�A Man that places GOD/Jesus an His ways above even lil ole me�:glow:
Shared ~ If a man has the GIFT of self control (celibacy) why would he need to marry?
*** He wouldn�t�much like a Priest for His Focus would be solely on the LORD an the Commission He has been set upon�.
Shared ~ OK, let me understand. Some people are more gifted (sexually) and do not need to marry.
*** Don�t know where the comment bout Gifted fits into anywhere here�:angeldevil:
Shared ~ And others need to marry, they lack self control and become emotionally and sexually needy.
*** I believe this is one of the points Paul was makein..buy Better to Marry than Burn with Desire�:devil:
ET shared much Truth here but Ima address the last comment�I agree...Yes�Some are called to Celibacy an some are not�
Yall hava Blessed weekend an Fathers Day an GOD�s continued Blessins ta All�:waving:...xo
A true Christian man would never expect sex before marriage and would do everything in his power to see that it didn't happen. I have dated a couple of women online who got insistent and I let them go. That is nothing more than lust of the flesh, and we are not to give in to it.
Leon & GJ, I think Shep is no different than most men who profess and confes to be Christian men... they all feel than their phycisl needs must be met, no matter what God say in His word.
This is why many men don't receive the full blessings of their call as men in leadership and authority from God. This is why many men are being kicked out the church, the home, and many outher places, because they refuse to bow to rulse, and as it pretains to the church, ministers are having sex all over the place and are married and single. And they think God overlooks thier sexual sins, because they have natural physical needs that must be met.
But the devil is a lair! And this is why God is allowing
Leon & GJ, I think Shep is no different than most men who profess and confes to be Christian men... they all feel than their phycisl needs must be met, no matter what God say in His word.
This is why many men don't receive the full blessings of their call as men in leadership and authority from God. This is why many men are being kicked out the church, the home, and many outher places, because they refuse to bow to rulse, and as it pretains to the church, ministers are having sex all over the place and are married and single. And they think God overlooks thier sexual sins, because they have natural physical needs that must be met.
But the devil is a lair! And this is why God is allowing
page went off before I could finsih that last part...
Any way, this is why God is allowing many WOMEN take over in the church, becasue of men who have been called in position of leadership OVER the church, are involved win sexual immoral SINS IN THE CHURCH. Whereas wome, keep it moving and take care of the things of the Lord mre carfefully.
I do believe with all my heart that the sin that was commited in the garden with Adam and Eve was that of sex. Because, the Bible tell us that they ate from the tree of good and evil, and then Adam hide himself from God becasue he realized he was naked. All the sins committed today, are related and connected to sex outside the marriage and inside the marriage.
Sex outside of marriage is evil because it is a sin. Sex within the marriage is good, because this is the purpose God created the woman as a helpmate to the man, to meet ALL the physical, mental, spitiural, and emotinal needs of her husband in a marriage.... I think Adam and Eve got into problems BEFORE God's set time for them to have sex, and this is the fruit from the tree from which they ate before it was God's set timing...just a thought to ponder over.
The Original Post (OP) profiles christian men to be sexually inferior to women. there is no justification for this stereotype.
It says,
"Why is it that Christian men feel that when they enter a relationship with a woman, its necessary that he SLEEPS with her? And if she refuses to sleep with him, he breaks off the relationship and moves on to another woman?"
I do not know if this refers to marriage or dating. Since there is no such thing as"biblical dating" I must assume it is a mixture with this worlds standards. those feminist women seeking to usurp male leadership & authority like to use this excuse to discredit men. As if they could do any better.
Okay, Shep, what is it that you speaking? Sex & the Word, is in reference to BOTH MARRIED, WIDOWS. AND SINGLES. Can't make it any clearer, for males/men, females/women, young middle aged and old aged God's word is for ALL genders and ages. So what part of it don't you understadn, or what part do you not care to understand, because you seek to do it your way, outside of what thus says the Lord.
No, Biblical dating is not in the Bible, this is why God says if you are unabe to control your passions of sexual desires, then you should get MARRIED! Getting married prevents sexual SIN.
I don't understand your comment wherein you says this, " I must assume it is a mixture with this worlds standards those feminist women seeking to usurp male leadership and authority like to use this excuse to discredit men." So before I make a comment of res[ponse to this statement, just what do you mean by this comment?
