What I am about to say will probably anger you. As a black Christian, I have struggled with whether or not to address this sensitive topic. I only ask that you give my statements prayerful consideration.
Ninety-six percent of black voters, many of whom are Christians, cast their votes for Barack Obama. I question: Did your desire to see a black man in the White House trump your commitment to Christ and Christian values and principles? While I believe many white Christians also made a racist decision by voting for Obama solely because he is black, I am taking this occasion to address my fellow black Christians.
Now wait a minute. I know the hair is rising on the back of your neck. Don't go crazy on me. Please hear me out.
My family and most of my black friends are Christians striving to live lives which honor Christ. And yet, there is a huge disconnect between their Christianity and their irrational, blind, and near-idol-worship of Obama.
Will the truth about Obama make a difference? For some, I think not. For those of you who value your commitment to Christ more than your loyalty to skin color, here are a few facts.
Obama supports abortion. He also supports the vile murderous practice of partial birth abortion. So as not to offend his pro-choice supporters while an Illinois state senator, Obama voted three times against the Born Alive Infant Protection Act, which would protect babies who survive abortions. According to Illinois state law at that time, live aborted babies were issued birth and death certificates and left out to die in soiled utility rooms. Obama's compassionate compromise was to suggest hospitals create a "Comfort Room" for aborted babies to die in.
Over 50% of black pregnancies end in abortion (Blackgenocide.org). The liberal mainstream media (CNN, MSNBC, BET, etc.) and the Democrats relentlessly promote the myth that "white conservative Republicans" are burning the midnight oil thinking of ways to suppress black America. Isn't it ironic that not a white Republican's, but our black Democrat president's abortion policy contributes greatly to black genocide?
Let's talk about gay marriage. Yep, Obama is sympathetic to it. Obama opposed the federal Defense of Marriage Act, which defines marriage as a legal union between one man and one woman. Obama said he would support civil unions between gay and lesbian couples. He also supports individual states deciding if marriage between gay and lesbian couples should be legalized.
I would also like to tackle the whole "entitlement" thing -- folks believing they have a right to reap the benefits of someone else's labor. Obama is diligently fulfilling his promise to Joe the Plumber to "spread the wealth around." The Bible says that if a man does not work, he should not eat (II Thessalonians 3:6-12).
Yes, the Bible does highly regard giving/charity. But it does not support government confiscating wealth for redistribution in the name of "social justice." That is not what Jesus would do. As a matter of fact, Jesus said, "The poor you will have with you always." Why? Because it is impossible to regulate outcomes in life. Obama skillfully plays the class envy card, getting those who have less to hate those who have more. Then they will gleefully support him brutally taxing the rich SOBs. Obama is exploiting the human tendency to sinfully covet the possessions of others.
Obama also shamelessly plays the race card to get his way -- not directly out of his mouth, but through his minions. The liberal mainstream media and the Democrats are promoting the lie that the millions of whites who voted for Obama and have since become tea-partiers because they reject his big government agenda are suddenly racist. This is an evil and divisive control tactic.
And here is a major kick in the face to Christians. During his presidential campaign, Obama told the world America is not a Christian nation. Now, as president, Obama canceled the 21st annual "National Day of Prayer" ceremony at the White House, which was started by President Truman in 1952. Obama stated his reason as "not wanting to offend anyone."
Now here's the kicker. A National Day of Prayer for the Muslim religion was held on Capitol Hill, beside the White House, September 25, 2009. As many as 50,000 Muslims attended.
So apparently, Team Obama has no problem offending Christians, but he is extremely sensitive to and even honors Muslims.
My fellow black Christians, these are only a few easy-to-research examples of Obama/Democrat agenda policies which do not line up with Christianity. For those of you who cannot handle the truth, I will keep you in my prayers. It is not my place to judge you. I am simply the messenger. But then, we all know what traditionally happens to messengers. God bless.
James, my dear White brother... before I address your comments, I would like to ask you a few questions, and I hope you haven't done a quarterback sneak, and go and not respond to all the comments I and others have posted in response to you.
But, before I ask the questions, I would that you hear and heed your Black sister's counsel...STOP DRINKING THE GRAPE KOOL-AID )!Its POISON! :toomuch:
START DRINKING CARROT JUICE its better for your eye sight and just might open your eyes and set you free from the bondage of denial of the real facts, that have blinded many of my White brothers and sisters for over 200 + years. and has cause many to sit in the shadow of darkness of their own imaginations and minds.
I realize this is what happens when a people or a person thinks more highly of themselves than they ought, and this is why God exhorts us not to do these things. But the facts are the facts, and what you have posted in your comments and the article ARE NOT THE FACTS nor even close!
So listen up my White brother, and answer these NEED to KNOW questions for your Black sister....
1. When did you start your noble journey as a political savior of information for your Black brothesr and sisters? I mean, is this something you feel deep from within, and a political-spiritual call to save the Black people of Amercia from White liberalism of the Democrats?
2. You made mention of how sad it makes you feel when your/my Black brothers and sisters come visit your church, and leave and don't return. And I think Babygirl made mention of an invitation to you to come visit her church and not leave, but stay. My NEED TO KNOW QUESTION to you is, HAVE YOU EVER IN YOUR LIFE VISITED A BLACK CHURCH?
And if so, did you leave or have you returned? Also, if you have NEVER visited a Black church, WHY NOT? If it makes you so sad that Blacks visit your church and don't stay, why haven't you visited a Black church and stayed? maybe then you wouldn't feel so sad and when you can understand why you have NEVER visited a Black church, and if you have, why didn't you stay?
3. Here's where the KOOL-AID POISON really comes into play in poisoning your mind and blinding you and many of my WHITE BROTHERS AND SISTERS with the KOOL-AID LIE:
DID YOU KNOW? (1) That the greatest share of WELFARE RECIPTIENTS OF PUBLIC AID ARE YOUR AND MY WHITE BROTHERS AND SISTERS? No, I didn't think you knew this, and many of my White brothers and sisters don't know this, and those who do, refuse to accept the facts, and would rather you believe the KOOL-AID LIE AND SIT IN THE SHADOWS OF DARKNESS OF YOUR MINDS THINKING MORE HIGHLY OF YOURSELVES THAN YOU OUGHT TO THINK.
So WHO GETS WELAFRE?
65% of WELFARE goes to Whites
34% of WELFARE goes to Black
2.8% of WELFARE goes to Asians
3.4 of WELFARE goes to other minority
88.7% of DISABILITY SSI CHECKS goes to Whites
9.6% of DISABILITY SSI CHECKS goes to Blacks
46.2% of FOOD STAMPS goes to Whites
37.2% of FOOD STAMPS goes to Blacks
48.5% of MEDICAID goes to Whites
27.5% of MEDICAID goes to Blacks
1.7 million WHITE women are single parents heads of household
1.3 million BLACK women are single parents heads of household
.5 million HISPANICS women are single heads of households.
The Bible teaches us to FIRST get the forest out of our OWN EYES, before we try to get a bush (sorry, President Bush lol) out of someone else's eye.
Ella says, swept around your own front door and make sure your own porch is clean, BEFORE you go trying to clean up around someones else's front door and porch.
I will address your comments after you have answered my NEED TO KNOW Questions.
OH, i almost forgot, you MUST ALWAYS KEEP IN MIND that
even with WELFARE racism was alive back in the 1930's, and Blacks were not allowed to receive welfare until AFTER the 1964 civil right act, and it was only in the late to early 1970's were Blacks given more benefits. And even today 2010, many Blacks who needs assistance are refused many benefits.
Also, if Black teens are having more abortions than White
teens, how is it that Black teens are also having more babies. Just how does that work? Maybe you can give us the stats on this... Didn't know you can have more babies aborted and at the same time have more children... what am I missing here?
Planned Parenthood was started in the late 1900's for my White sisters and White teens in mind ot stop the baby boom, Blacks have always been taught not to kill thier children, but when my White brothers and sisters said it was ok, and opened up Planned Parenthood to Blacks this is when Black teen and women started using the services.
Don';t preach to the choiur, preach to the ushers standing at the doors...
We should be all the more concerned because of the times we are in about reaching the lost rather than crying over the policies of a man already in office.
James replies:
PART of the life of a Christian, is to be salt and light to this world, and THAT means voting for righteous men and women to office.
Obama is the MOST extreme pro-infanticide president in our history. So, we should be concerned about ALL of the Christian life, and not ignore what God has said, when it comes time to vote.
There is a lot that I can say, but I will only address a couple of things that you said. I don't expect you to respond to me since you never do. I understand, I'm not in the category of 'good n*gg*a' like your Thomas Sowell and Walter Williams.
James replies:
Yeah, and I am sad to hear you say this. When a white man votes against the godless amoral socialists in the democrat party, he is just "Mean and uncaring", but when a black person does it, they are called "uncle toms' and "sellouts" AS IF, to be black YOU HAVE TO VOTE DEMOCRAT!! That is NOT freedom is it? Those two men, I called "brilliant" and two men that EVERYONE should read and listen to. I never said they were "good" or even Christian. I said they are RIGHT about freedom, and liberty, as opposed to socialism.
Your arrogance is astounding and off the charts. You believe and assume that black people just need/want to hear from black leaders so that we will be convinced to come around to your way of thinking (which according to you is the only way for a Christian to think). The only way I will be educated (cause I wasn't before?) is to read the rhetoric of your two educated black recommendations?
James replies:
Unfortunately, those who have been indoctrinated by the Democrats and liberalism, are racially obsessed, so, yes, in THEORY those black folks will listen to another black person before they would someone who is white. But in real life it does not work that way. In real life, ANY black person who is conservative or runs on a Republican ticket is IGNORED by black folks, or IMMEDIATELY made fun of mercilessly by black liberals.
If condeleeza Rice was a democrat, she would have been on the cover of JET, 22 times!
But, if you are not one of those people, then please, read what conservatives have to say, and you have to FIND them, because almost all news is LIBERAL. Watch the Fox News Channel on Cable, listen to conservative Talk radio, read Conservative websites like National Review, and American Thinker.
Please forgive me if I don't go back to the founding of America for my ideals and politics when your founding fathers almost killed off the Native Americans and stuck a flag in the dirt and declared it 'discovered' and on the same shores brought my people here in chains. I get my standard and rules of living and thinking from the Word and it's principles.
James replies:
Yes, that is all lies. You have been lied to because you went to public schools and the textbooks were written by liberals.
The Founding Fathers, were almost all against Slavery, and because the nation was so shaky in the beginning, that they knew they could not take on the issue of slavery in the south, because if they did at that moment, America would not have happened. But they were against it from the beginning, and we still have their writings to prove it.
The "Indians" were called savages for a REASON, and they did horrible things to people, and there is plenty of blame and bad behavior on BOTH sides. To say that the indians defeated themselves with Alcohol is not too far from the truth.
whatever spirit you are lead by allows you to say that Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are 'a waste of time and worthless'. They are two human beings made and fashioned by God. Just because you disagree with what they say doesn't give you the right to say another person is worthless, black, white or otherwise. Where is your love? It is this same ignorance that has men and women walking around in sheets, convinced of their superiority. Again, your arrogance causes the blonde hair on the back of my neck to stand.
James replies:
I will repeat it for you: Jackson and Sharpton are RACE BAITERS. They make a living off of perceived racism.
If the fires of racism start to go out, you can bet Jackson and sharpton will be fanning those flames because that is how they make a living!
I also would like to add that having a President that is against abortion doesn't make him/her a good President as we have been witness.
James replies:
You are kidding right? Do you know Obama voted TWICE against a law that required a baby that somehow survived an abortion attempt, medical help?
HE VOTED AGAINST THAT TWICE! Obama is a SNAKE, he is COLD HEARTED and hates America and like all liberals he thinks America is a bad nation that needs to be punished for past sins.
What an accomplishment it would be if the law (as it does) allowed abortion but because Christians were about their Father's business, no one went to get one.
James replies:
If you believe that Christians can stop all abortions by obeying God more, well, PART of that obedience is voting FOR pro-LIFE politicians, and protesting AGAINST abortion mills, and planned parenthood.
It is your right to be a conservative and a Republican. It is my right to be and have whatever political views I want. If there is anything that I will take from the founding of America is the idea of freedom.
I am positive that you voted for McCain. He did not win. You did your part to support the beliefs that you have. The President that you have is Democrat. The Bible says that we are to pray for our leaders. It does not mention voting or being conservative and Republican is God's plan and/or will. Instead of bad mouthing him, you are to pray not only for his leadership, but his soul (if believe so strongly that he is on his way to hell, murderer and all).
I did not speak to your calling Sharpton and Jackson race baiters. I spoke to your calling them WORTHLESS and USELESS. I have no problem with your Republican, BRILLIANT black men you admire so much. You all can be what you want to be, it is your right.
I don't buy into any of your arguments or the manner in which you have delivered it. Your belief that you are right and that there is no other way to get to the same place, in my opinion, puts you in the narrow-minded, self-righteous category.
You are the center of your own universe, evidenced by your invitation to YOUR church (thanks, I'm cool where I am) and your belief that you and only you are right. I propose that you open your mind and find some love in your for those who do not think and who are not like you.
I will say that I my respect for you rose a notch as I did not think you would answer ET's or my post. I don't assume that you care about that either way, but thought I would say it since MY delivery was rather harsh last time.
James, my dear White brother... before I address your comments, I would like to ask you a few questions, and I hope you haven't done a quarterback sneak, and go and not respond to all the comments I and others have posted in response to you.
But, before I ask the questions, I would that you hear and heed your Black sister's counsel...STOP DRINKING THE GRAPE KOOL-AID )!Its POISON!
START DRINKING CARROT JUICE its better for your eye sight and just might open your eyes and set you free from the bondage of denial of the real facts, that have blinded many of my White brothers and sisters for over 200 + years. and has cause many to sit in the shadow of darkness of their own imaginations and minds.
James replies:
My "koolaid" comes directly from Scripture, which just so happens to line up with what America was DESIGNED to be.
Because America was designed upon Christian principles drawn directly from the Bible.
You sound like a liberal, because conservatives come right out and tell you they are conservative, and libs have ten different ways of avoiding telling people they are liberals.
ET continues:
I realize this is what happens when a people or a person thinks more highly of themselves than they ought, and this is why God exhorts us not to do these things. But the facts are the facts, and what you have posted in your comments and the article ARE NOT THE FACTS nor even close!
So listen up my White brother, and answer these NEED to KNOW questions for your Black sister....
1. When did you start your noble journey as a political savior of information for your Black brothesr and sisters? I mean, is this something you feel deep from within, and a political-spiritual call to save the Black people of Amercia from White liberalism of the Democrats?
James replies:
well, it is not specifically for any Christians of any color, but over the years I have come to find out that black folks in America have fallen for liberalism, hook, line and sinker.
And unfortunately, since MOST of the preaching in black churches, (Methodist, and Baptist) is very shallow, that liberalism has been allowed into the pulpit and actually preached there.
This same thing is true of most white churches, but not quite as bad. The reason is, Democrats in the 60"s after decades of terrible deeds against black folks, decided once they saw that they would get the vote, suddenly decided be "for" black folks, and singled them out.
But as far as liberalism is concerned, I believe it is a type of religion, that is basically communism with a soft "caring" cover over it. And I hate it with a passion. I have mostly dealt with white Christians who have dragged their liberalism into their faith, but after posting this article, I have you and 1babygirl to discuss this with. I also have a several black Christian friends in my town, and I am almost positive they have liberalism in their faith as well.
2. You made mention of how sad it makes you feel when your/my Black brothers and sisters come visit your church, and leave and don't return. And I think Babygirl made mention of an invitation to you to come visit her church and not leave, but stay. My NEED TO KNOW QUESTION to you is, HAVE YOU EVER IN YOUR LIFE VISITED A BLACK CHURCH?
James replies:
No, I have not! I have watched black churches on TV MANY times, and I really like Matthew Oshimelowow. He is an excellent preacher, and good theology. I would love to find a black Calvinist church and visit there. I live in a small town, and we Christians know each other, black or white, we know of each other. I know two black women who really walk with God, and I always like talking with them.
ETcallhome continues:
And if so, did you leave or have you returned? Also, if you have NEVER visited a Black church, WHY NOT? If it makes you so sad that Blacks visit your church and don't stay, why haven't you visited a Black church and stayed? maybe then you wouldn't feel so sad and when you can understand why you have NEVER visited a Black church, and if you have, why didn't you stay?
James replies:
I am Calvinist, and I am very close friends with my pastor.
I started the church with him and two other people, 25 years ago, and now we have about 60 adults on an average Sunday.
3. Here's where the KOOL-AID POISON really comes into play in poisoning your mind and blinding you and many of my WHITE BROTHERS AND SISTERS with the KOOL-AID LIE:
DID YOU KNOW? (1) That the greatest share of WELFARE RECIPTIENTS OF PUBLIC AID ARE YOUR AND MY WHITE BROTHERS AND SISTERS? No, I didn't think you knew this, and many of my White brothers and sisters don't know this, and those who do, refuse to accept the facts, and would rather you believe the KOOL-AID LIE AND SIT IN THE SHADOWS OF DARKNESS OF YOUR MINDS THINKING MORE HIGHLY OF YOURSELVES THAN YOU OUGHT TO THINK.
So WHO GETS WELAFRE?
65% of WELFARE goes to Whites
34% of WELFARE goes to Black
2.8% of WELFARE goes to Asians
3.4 of WELFARE goes to other minority
88.7% of DISABILITY SSI CHECKS goes to Whites
9.6% of DISABILITY SSI CHECKS goes to Blacks
46.2% of FOOD STAMPS goes to Whites
37.2% of FOOD STAMPS goes to Blacks
48.5% of MEDICAID goes to Whites
27.5% of MEDICAID goes to Blacks
1.7 million WHITE women are single parents heads of household
1.3 million BLACK women are single parents heads of household
.5 million HISPANICS women are single heads of households.
The Bible teaches us to FIRST get the forest out of our OWN EYES, before we try to get a bush (sorry, President Bush lol) out of someone else's eye.
Ella says, swept around your own front door and make sure your own porch is clean, BEFORE you go trying to clean up around someones else's front door and porch.
James replies:
Ella? Ella Fitzgerald? Uh, Yes, I know the stats on Welfare, but since Whites are 60% of the population, and blacks are only about 12% I think your stats are misleading.
I believe that YOU believe that welfare has done more to destroy the black family than anything else in American history!
Yes, it destroys families no matter what skin color, but the original article I posted was about black folks, and them voting for Obama. What is shocking and saddening to me, is black Christians, voting for ANYONE who is for abortion!!!
Why is it that most White Christians vote conservative, and most Black Christians vote liberal????
Because black folks have bought into liberalism completely, and proof of it is voting ALL THE TIME for politicians who are for abortion!
ETcallhome:
I will address your comments after you have answered my NEED TO KNOW Questions.
OH, i almost forgot, you MUST ALWAYS KEEP IN MIND that
even with WELFARE racism was alive back in the 1930's, and Blacks were not allowed to receive welfare until AFTER the 1964 civil right act, and it was only in the late to early 1970's were Blacks given more benefits. And even today 2010, many Blacks who needs assistance are refused many benefits.
James replies:
Welfare destroys families, and I am against it unless someone is paralyzed/blind/crippled. I believe in Christian charity, and that is very different than getting people hooked on living off of the hard work of others.
Black folks had a HIGHER graduation rate and a MUCH higher rate of two parent families BEFORE welfare.
Liberalism ALWAYS PRETENDS to "help" people, and what they really do is make people dependent on the federal government, so they will vote for them.
ETcallhome:
Also, if Black teens are having more abortions than White
teens, how is it that Black teens are also having more babies. Just how does that work? Maybe you can give us the stats on this... Didn't know you can have more babies aborted and at the same time have more children... what am I missing here?
James replies:
Well, for starters, I don't want ANY black babies being aborted!
that is a HORRIBLE sin, and there should not be ANY abortions of any color! Planned parenthood is building most of it's new clinics in all black neighborhoods, paid for with tax dollars, all through DEMOCRATS who just "love" black folks!!
Meanwhile us, "mean" conservatives are trying to STOP black babies from being killed!
ETcallhome:
Planned Parenthood was started in the late 1900's for my White sisters and White teens in mind ot stop the baby boom, Blacks have always been taught not to kill thier children, but when my White brothers and sisters said it was ok, and opened up Planned Parenthood to Blacks this is when Black teen and women started using the services.
James replies:
You are wrong! PLEASE check out these two links:
http://www.dianedew.com/sanger.htm
http://www.blackgenocide.org/sanger.html
ETcallhome:
Don';t preach to the choiur, preach to the ushers standing at the doors...
James replies:
Sorry if I offended, but Hey, it is time to face these things, even if it is painful. Just remember, we are all made in the image of God, and ALL of us have inherent dignity and worth, because GOD said so!!
Its obvious you're not reading with selective thought patterns. Otherwise, you would have read in my post wherein I stated I am a registered REPUBLICAN. In fact, I was, Prisednt Bush campiagn chair for my district. You assume much without knowing, in order to prompt your own beliefs...drinking the kool-aid ain't good for you, it leaving you in the shadow of your imagination and darkness.:toomuch:
Now, its very late for me, but I thought I would post this information for you FYI..
2008-2009 US Cencus estimate that the population of American is about 309, 339, 550.
80% are White
12.8 % are Blacks
15.4% are Hispanics
4.5% are Asians
1.00% Native Americans Indians
Here a link for you to check out.
www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-212.html
Hope I got the address correct:yay:
Hopefully I will get back with you on tomorrow or later on in the week. In the mean time, I think you should respond to the others who have made some good points on this topic. But please READ what they have said before you jump to conclusions and twist their comments to make your own statment effective.
Also, this is not about being a Christian nor what the scripture has to say at all... its all about politics. The Democrats are trying to hold onto the minority votes, and the Republicans are trying to get the miniority votes. After all election is coming up in Novmber, isn't it????
The same Democrats and Republicans are the very ones who also voted against prayer in the schools and everywhere else, seperation of church and state, so the republicans ain't that spiritual or religious, nor are the democrats. And the democrats try to convience the minories that the republicans hate them, and the republicans try to tell the minorities the demcrats are the ones who have cause them to lose their family values, and are keeping them down in bondage. But the truth of the matter is neither party gives a johnbrwn about minorities outside of voting and getting their candidates in office.
As I said, 65 millions registered voters voted for Obama, and registered minorities votetrs, sure don't make up for the count... so you go figure.
I believe at some point in a conversation that's going as this one is, you have to agree to disagree. So, I wish to jump out of the discussion. I know it can be considered unfair to say your peace (especially if it's inflammatory) then not let the other have the chance to respond, so if you REALLY want me to after this post, I will, in the spirit of aforementioned fairness, answer.
I will say this, you are dealing with a spirit of pride and arrogance in a big way and for me, that has been the only painful part of this debate, not your 'truths'.The sad thing is that pride will not let itself be seen easily and I believe it would take God's intervention and your humbleness to cause you to receive that. Now THAT is a hard truth.
I also would be afraid (as you evidently are not) to boldly say 'I'm a Calvinist'. You have attached yourself to the teachings of a man, who God did not see fit to include in the Word. It reminds me of the people in the Word who said, we follow the teachings of Paul.
From your 'high place' in your small town with a few blacks, you believe you know what is really going on with blacks and folk whose shoes you have not walked in, whose struggles and challenges you have not faced.
The most disturbing thing about this whole conversation with you is that anyone who does not see things your way are as useless and worthless as you believe Jackson and Sharpton to be.That is what I get from you.That has been the offensive part for me. Everything else is just your opinion, even though it is evident you believe your opinion to be the truth everyone should adopt.
Doesn't Calvin teach you about love or respect for other people?
SrJames ~ Sowin discord amongst breathern bout stuff we have no control over at this time...with personal opinions...is a waste of precious time...You or the author of this posted article started out by sayin in this post...I will probly offend some people...Well...see the results of it now...such anger has transpired...I ask you...Is this the purpose of a GOD fearin man ?....:prayingf:
