"by him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth,visible and invisible,wether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers.All things were created through him and FOR HIM" ......Sounds like a legal document that covers all his bases in letting us know hes in charge.Many christians mistakenly beleive that even though gods in control it is still up to us to accomplish his plan for our lives.In other words,god needs us to cooperate in order to fullfill his end result .This only leads to further frustration. �O Lord, I know the way of man is not in himself; it is not in man who walks to direct his own steps.� (Jeremiah 10:23)...........Well even if we could ,inadvertently "mess up gods plans"Then I would argue that,We,not god,are in control.The truth is,God has preordained the paths in wich we walk and will see to it that we walk in them.We cant go contrary to gods plan,and he doesnt need us to make it happen,Phillppians 2;13 "It is god who works in you both to will and to do for his good pleasure" �A man�s heart plans his way, but the Lord directs his steps.� (Proverbs 16:9) "But we had the sentence of death in ourselves, that we should not trust in ourselves but in God which raiseth the dead: Who delivered us from so great a death, and doth deliver: in whom we trust that He will yet deliver us;" II Corinthians 1:9-10
No I am talking about biblical laws. a law being defined as a particular action, will always produce consistent results.
You will reap what you sow, these laws where established for the benefit for the good of man on the earth in Genesis, there where intended for the good of man, but in the fall they then could work against man.
Ge 1:11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
Ge 1:12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
Ge 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
Ga 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
If one sows to fear, he will reap of fear, who is the author of fear. in this truth meditated upon you will understand what happened to Job, the lord had nothing to do with it, Job caused it to happen to himself, and if you will read the book of Job you will see where the man of God corrected him, and then the lord revealed himself to him in correcting Job,
There is also a law of faith.Ro 3:27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
So you say Job caused all this happening to him himself by his fear, and without God having an argument with satan before? As far as I remember the book starts with God and satan discussing whether Job is a righteous man, satan says no, because he would only follow God because of his whealth, so God allows satan to take all from him. I never read anything there about the fear and that fear being a bad thing. If it was a bad thing, how could God then have called Job righteous, for God cannot lie?
Your interpretation is interesting, and I'll take a look at the fear part when I read Job the next time, but yet it hasn't convinced me and I doubt if it will when I read it. Maybe you want to back your point up with some verses that show what you mean is the same that what's said in Job?
It is not my interpretation, It is what the bible says, man will not be able to see that truth, until they agree with the word concerning Satan being the God of this world, The bible clearly States that Adam gave his dominion over to Satan.
Ge 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
Ge 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
It is very clear to me if I just believe what the bible says, the lord said, let them have dominion, he gave Adam and eve his dominion, he could not have it if he gave it to Adam.
You can not truly understand the lord's sovereignity, outside of this truth, this does not minimize him one bit to me it makes him even greater in my eyes.
6 And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it.
7 If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be thine.
8 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.
2 Corinthians4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
5 For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus� sake.
6 For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.
Job 3:25 For the thing which I greatly feared is come upon me, and that which I was afraid of is come unto me.
If you will you can go back and see his actions based on fear, fear is not of God and the bible says it is a spirit, fear comes to man in thoughts, just as it did to Eve, and Eve acted on the fear, and the law of faith, and sowing and reaping where exercised to perversion.
Now Benny, I know you have not agreed with much of anything I say, but I am trying to answer you as you asked, there is no interpretation for me only believing the word as it is written.
Satan has a legal right when man continually disobeys the lord, the lord does not use Satan, Adam and Eve gave him their dominion
Why did Jesus come as a man for mankind, so many scream for sin that is why, yes he became sin and paid the price in full for man, put that is a very minor part of his actions on the earth.
If you will study Jesus in the Gospels you very seldom see him talking about sin, he wanted people to know the father, just as the Gospels tell us, Jesus came to redeem mankind out of Satan's power, and take us back to our place of dominion on the earth.
Job1:5 And it was so, when the days of their feasting were gone about, that Job sent and sanctified them, and rose up early in the morning, and offered burnt offerings according to the number of them all: for Job said, It may be that my sons have sinned, and cursed God in their hearts. Thus did Job continually.
If you will go back in light of what I said, notice what ultimately comes out of Job's mouth and what the lord says about it, and in the latter part of the book you can read where the lord came to Job and rebuked him and after Job repented and prayed for his friends, his captivity was turned.
Okay, now I see wht you mean with Job's fear, because he offered to God just in case...
But still the book of Job speaks about the Lord allowing satan to do this and that to Job. I do not read much about dominions there.
Of course, it is all to fit together somehow. But if the world is under dominion of satan alone (with God having no say), why would Gd be able to bless people in the dominion of satan, as you call it? And how could satan speak in the book of Job about Job being blessed by God, as Job lived within the dominion of satan?
It does not yet make all sense to me. And please: interpretation is whatever we get from the bible. So don't fool yourself saying others interpret the bible and I only read it and get the full truth. You interpret it as well, like I do and everybody else does. We all read the same bible, and none of us is about to put man's ideas into it. But we do, and we all interpret, for the act of getting the words we read into our heads is already interpretation.
