Author	Thread: Is Sunday School wrong?
Admin	Is Sunday School wrong? Posted : 21 Oct, 2009 11:41 PM To me, this answer to this question is obvious. No, sunday school is not wrong. Recently, though, I came across a minister who was mad at churches that had sunday school, because... and these are the exact words... "it is unbiblical". I'm not going to tell you what denomination he was, because I don't believe all people under a single denomination have the EXACT same views. For example, another minister told me that baptisms didn't represent repentance of sins. It represents Jesus raising from the dead. Umm... I'm no biblical expert, here... but I believe John the Baptist was baptizing people in repentance of their sins. HE didn't know Jesus was going to die and raise back to life. If anyone has ever heard of these 2 beliefs of currently believes them, could you please explain to me what I'm missing? Thank you. In Christ Garrett Post Reply
View Profile History	Is Sunday School wrong? Posted : 24 Oct, 2009 10:56 PM Happy: ... I COMPLETELY agree with you. Thank you for your input. This brought excitement into my night. Ole Cattle: You have some very good points too. Several of the letters Paul wrote to various churches and brothers in Christ speak about teaching. How to teach, what to teach. Very interesting stuff. TomLane: Hmm... I have a few things to say. I'm going to take my time and look up scripture for EVERY single view I have so as to prove my reliance on His Word and understanding. Let me see... I'm going to try and go in order. I actually recommend reading the WHOLE first part of Corinthians. Very wise teachings. 1 Corinthians 2:1 "When I came to you, brothers, I did not come with eloquence or superior wisdom as I proclaimed to you the testimony about God." 1 Corinthians 2:4 "My message and my preaching were not with wise and persuasive words, but with a demonstration of the Spirit's power..." 1 Corinthians 2:6-7 "We do, however, speak a message of wisdom among the mature, but not the wisdom of this age or of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing. No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began." 1 Corinthians 2:10-16 "... but God has revealed it to us by His Spirit. The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God. For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the man's spirit within him? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God. We have not received the spirit of the world but the Spirit who is from God, that we may understand what God has freely given us. This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, expressing spiritual truths in spiritual words. The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned. The spiritual man makes judgements about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man's judgement: 'For who has known the mind of the Lord that he may instruct him?' But we have the mind of Christ." I have quoted all of this FROM SCRIPTURE. It isn't out of context, either. All from the same chapter of the same book. Doesn't get much clearer than that. However, it is quite lengthy. So... let me put it into fewer words: We know that the Holy Spirit dwells within us (1 Cor. 3:16). We also know that we speak of God's secret wisdom (verses 6-7). Where does this wisdom come from? God revealed it to us by His Spirit (verse 10). So, basically, God has allowed us a BRIEF GLIMPSE into His mindset so that we can teach with His wisdom to others, as Paul was doing (verse 11). We don't FULLY know what's in God's mind, though (also verse 11). Just what he reveals to us by His Spirit. I think this is what you have been missing. We have the authority to teach, because His Spirit, which reveals Gods wisdom, dwells within us. Therefore, sunday school isn't sin, as you implied. It is a pretty big deal to tell someone they are sinning for studying God's word in a church facility. That is something you want to fully research before labeling someone. I am not saying, however, that everything that comes out of our mouths is right. Yes, we do have the mind of Christ (verse 16), but we also have temptation pulling at us. We are simply unable to stay focused. That is why it's SO important, as Happy stated, "to have others input to sort out the truth." We sort out the truth through God's word. THIS is how we know the difference between Christ's influence and Satan's influence. I hope this makes things a little bit clearer. To everyone: WOW. I had no idea this topic would really generate this much buzz. Thanks to all of you for your input. Please continue! It's been a great learning experience. Thanks again, fellow brothers/sisters! In Christ Garrett Post Reply
View Profile History	Is Sunday School wrong? Posted : 25 Oct, 2009 03:51 AM dear jf, hey man nice post.. lets take a look at 1 corinthians 12:5-6 1 corinthians 12:5-6 5 There are differences of ministries, but the same Lord. 6 And there are diversities of activities, but it is the same God who works all in all. sunday school is a ministry and therefore is not sin.. it says its the same GOD who works all in all. ole cattle Post Reply
View Profile History	Is Sunday School wrong? Posted : 25 Oct, 2009 05:08 AM Thank you, Ole Cattle. I like that verse. Adding it to my favorites. (along with the other hundred verses. lol) Post Reply
aceets View Profile History	Is Sunday School wrong? Posted : 25 Oct, 2009 05:47 AM Tomlane, Thank you for your response. I am sad to realize that you have misread my post. I was not speaking of three ways to study the Bible but of three forms in which the Word of God exists. When I speak of Jesus Christ as the Word of God I have John 1.1-3 in mind. Jesus is the word of God incarnate. This does not mean that Jesus is the Bible but the one who speaks before there ever was such a thing as a Bible (Heb. 1.1-3). The reason why we have the written Word of God (i.e. the Bible) is because God himself has spoken! What is more, he still speaks through scripture and through the proclamation of scripture, as I will show below. There are numerous instances in which scripture is spoken of as the word of God (see e.g. Eph. 6.17, 2Tim. 3.16-17). The third form, and the most relevant one for our discussion, is the Word preached. Jesus did this (e.g. Luke 5.1ff) and it was not done in the manner of just quoting scripture, although it was full of allusions to scripture. The clearest example of the Word proclaimed is probably to be found in Romans 10.14-15, as well as in Col 3.16, which you chose to ignore in your reply. This means that we can preach and teach not because we are smart but because God sent us and because he has chosen to give us his Spirit. This is regardless if the location in which we choose to do that. Well, I hope that our responses, and especially Catleman's last two, have given you some food for thought. Therefore, take heed lest in your desire to make Christianity simple you actually make it sinful! Aceets Post Reply
DontHitThatMark View Profile History	Is Sunday School wrong? Posted : 25 Oct, 2009 11:54 AM I'll have to agree with cattleman again. Everyone seems so willing to point out how they think everyone else is wrong without a shadow of a doubt...which makes me wonder that if they happen to NOT have all truth...wouldn't this "assurance" hinder God's ability to bring them something He wants them to learn? The bible is infallible. Obviously mans ability to correctly interpret all of it is flawed...nobody wants to admit they could be wrong though...everyone else is wrong but them. Seems like there's a little room for humility in there somewhere. Teaching children in a way that they can understand is actually better then letting them sit through something they cannot understand and making them dread going to church. In my church we have 1 hour of classes for adults and children, and then everyone comes together for the sermon...not sure how other churches do it, but it seems to work for us. :peace::peace: Post Reply
View Profile History	Is Sunday School wrong? Posted : 25 Oct, 2009 03:56 PM dear aceets, nice post.. very good scripture use. ole cattle Post Reply
View Profile History	Is Sunday School wrong? Posted : 26 Oct, 2009 06:31 AM When I went to 2nd shift I was missing bible study that hurt me.My church has a study in wednesdays only.No, sunday school.Just wednesday night bible study,Getting the wrod sunday mornings is not enough for me.I like those study groups. This answers it. Post Reply
View Profile History	Is Sunday School wrong? Posted : 26 Oct, 2009 11:39 AM I'm with you, dgrimater. I like being a part of a study group. It's harder to find ones that are available since I work with youth groups, though. I usually have to find one on a Thursday or something like that. Post Reply

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