Author	Thread: Is Sinlessness possible
Moonlight7 View Profile History	Is Sinlessness possible Posted : 27 Aug, 2022 07:15 AM @Pipi and all you others who think you are sinless! ------------------------------------------ Is sinlessness possible? I’ve recently run across several individuals who have either claimed sinlessness, or strongly argued that sinlessness (also known as sinless perfection and entire sanctification) is achievable. Even without studying what the Bible says about the possibility of sinlessness, simple observation of people attempting to live the Christian life causes me to seriously doubt the concept. Observation of people who claim sinlessness absolutely reinforces my doubt. The only person the Bible describes as sinless is Jesus Christ (2 Corinthians 5:21; Hebrews 4:15; 1 Peter 2:22). Every other major character in the Bible is flawed. At times, the Bible seems to go out of its way to point out the sins of significant people in the Bible. One would think that if sinlessness is possible, the Bible would give us an example of someone who achieved it. And then there are verses such as the following: “Surely there is not a righteous man on earth who does good and never sins” (Ecclesiastes 7:20). “…and forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors” (Matthew 6:12). “If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us” (1 John 1:8). I could perhaps dismiss Ecclesiastes 7:20 since it is old covenant. Matthew 6:12, though, is Jesus instructing us how to pray. If Jesus told us to ask God for forgiveness, it would seem we will always need forgiveness. And, in 1 John 1:8, John, when he says “we” and “us,” is referring to himself and other believers. The apostle whom Jesus loved recognized that he was not sinless, and apparently did not even consider the idea that someone to whom he was writing might be sinless. Some point to Jesus’ instructions to “go and sin no more” in John 5:14 and 8:11 as evidence for the possibility of sinlessness. But there is a difference between what is supposed to be our goal and what the reality of our existence tells us. Of course, sinlessness is supposed to be our goal. In Matthew 5:48 Jesus says, “You therefore must be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.” Sinless perfection is the goal we should all be striving towards. Until we are glorified in God’s presence in heaven, though, we will still inhabit a sin-infected body. The struggle against our flesh is constant, even for the most mature Christian (Romans 7:15–24). In the Christian life, we should progressively achieve greater and greater victory over sin, but our battle against sin will not end this side of eternity. Some want to hold on to the possibility of sinlessness for a more practical reason. They claim, “If you tell people sinlessness is impossible, they won’t strive for it.” This claim fails for two primary reasons. First, the Bible does not teach that sinlessness is possible, so it doesn’t matter if people would be discouraged at the impossibility. We can’t lie to people in order to motivate them. Second, we strive for perfection in many aspects of life all the while knowing we will never achieve it. Every athletic team tries to win every game, but only those suffering from delusion truly believe they will always and forever win every game. They try to win every game even though they know it ultimately is not possible. The same is true in the Christian life. The people in my life whom I would describe as the most spiritually mature would never claim sinlessness. In fact, part of true spiritual maturity is being cognizant of the subtle sins in your life. True progress in the Christian life is honestly and humbly recognizing how much further you must go. If you think you have arrived at sinlessness, think again. Unless you have arrived in heaven at the feet of Jesus, you still have work to do. “Beloved, we are God’s children now, and what we will be has not yet appeared; but we know that when He appears we shall be like Him, because we shall see Him as He is.” (1 John 3:2) Post Reply
Alligator View Profile History	Is Sinlessness possible Posted : 28 Aug, 2022 01:10 PM TeddyHug - Anyone can see that I have made some very SHORT posts. YOU make such long hateful posts that most people are going to get tired of reading. There IS a Paradise and a Heaven. As Christ hung on the cross and the thief asked forgiveness, Christ said "today you shall be with me in Paradise". Those who want to fully understand will study on their own. Try to refrain from taking an entire page to refute me. Honestly? I feel sorry for you. Perhaps you had a very unhappy home, or were punished unjustly. When I read your thoughts in writing and they are so full of anger and frustration, I know that in person, you are actually dangerous. A wife or child would be afraid of you, and justly so. I will pray for you that your heart may be changed to help people and not just berate them in every post. Post Reply
Teddyhug^ View Profile History	Is Sinlessness possible Posted : 28 Aug, 2022 03:58 PM You are a very sick ugly woman inside arent you, thinking you can read people and their thoughts and then attempt to limit me by how long my posts are to be! Who do you think you are the forum mother after so long from this forum, self appointed now? And even with that you claim to speak for others! WOW! You are a wicked judgmental women that will live alone because of your bitterness and self righteousness, cannot admit you was wrong (the Messiah NEVER WENT TO HEAVEN >>>THAT DAY<<< UNTIL THE THIRD DAY goofy, so the thief did not go either and will be raised like everybody else come resurrection day from hell the grave! Got it? Did King David go to heaven yet - Acts 2:27,29, so why do you claim the thief is so special???) about the words 'paradise' and 'heaven' interchanging either!? Just look at your biased judgments here not only the Bible but people here, your adopted son littledavid is constantly belittling others and you say NOTHING and everybody can read your BIASED posts, do you not have a mirror in your house! Hey psycho woman I had a wonderful childhood, so shut your YAP, you are just biased when I give others their own medicine on this forum and you are BLIND not seeing what they post in clear English and then you DREAM things in my posts and life! I have never physically hurt any woman or child you STINKING LIAR! I don't want your prayers from your satan you pray too and serve, you are a TRANGRESSOR if you claim SUNday is a new rest day!!! Post Reply
LittleDavid View Profile History	Is Sinlessness possible Posted : 28 Aug, 2022 04:18 PM Folks look at the TeddyHug’s irrational RAGE‼️‼️ No one can talk sense into his head, no mater how respectful they are‼️‼️ Post Reply
Teddyhug^ View Profile History	Is Sinlessness possible Posted : 28 Aug, 2022 04:59 PM Littledavid calls this a 'irrational rage' when I just proved Alligators false doctrine that the x- thief DID NOT go to heaven the same day the Messiah DIED because the Messiah did not go to heaven until the third day! So Allligator just called the Messiah a LIAR promising the thief that very day He would be with Him in heaven according to Alligators false doctrine! She makes a WHOLE doctrine over ONE COMMA placement that were not even inspired but ADDED to the Bible translation!!! LMBO! Post Reply
Teddyhug^ View Profile History	Is Sinlessness possible Posted : 28 Aug, 2022 05:07 PM But all is not lost Alligator because littledavid FOR THE FIRST TIME in CLOSE TO A YEAR, actually called me by my forum name QUOTE above - 'TeddyHug'!!! So perhaps you are getting thru to his conscience, NOW and I can stop giving him some of his own medicine NOW! We will see if he starts up again with his continually sinning perfectionism??? Post Reply
LittleDavid View Profile History	Is Sinlessness possible Posted : 28 Aug, 2022 06:19 PM I’ve refered to you as TeddyHug interchangeably long before now. Alligator is true to the text. Jesus and the thief where in paradise together just as Jesus said. Your umbilical SDA teaching about soul sleep confuses your understanding Post Reply
LittleDavid View Profile History	Is Sinlessness possible Posted : 28 Aug, 2022 07:02 PM Teddy, if you wanna start all over again and try to have a polite meaningful discussion between you and me, I’m open to that if you are. You can even talk about posts of yours that you believe I misunderstood or whatever We can chat here or on private messaging and see if we can come to some sort of agreement Post Reply
Alligator View Profile History	Is Sinlessness possible Posted : 28 Aug, 2022 08:15 PM The phrase "drinking the Kool-Aid" refers to the 1978 Jonestown massacre, in which more than 900 people committed mass suicide by drinking a flavored drink mixed with Valium, chloral hydrate, cyanide, and Phenergan. Kool-Aid's association with Jonestown has turned into a common meme and saying. But it wasn't Kool-Aid. FLAVOR AID is the real culprit. All the sources on the massacre say the powder was the grape variety of ANOTHER drink brand, Flavor Aid. Made by Jel-Sert, Surviving witnesses said that Flavor Aid was the drink used, not Kool-Aid. Yes, Teddy, I am comparing you to Jim Jones. Misleading people about Christ and the Bible. When a false prophet talks long enough, sometimes he begins to believe himself. As I read through your posts I begin to think you idolized Jim Jones because even though he was evil, he is not forgotten. Post Reply

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