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Ohiograce^

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Posted : 18 Aug, 2022 12:34 PM

Romans 11:5-6

In this way, then, also in the present time there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

And if by grace, it is no longer out of works; otherwise grace is no longer grace



Grace and works are exclusive.



Romans 6:14

Sin will not have dominion over you, for you are not under law but under grace.



Grace and law are exclusive.



If we get these wrong, we are going to get not just the gospel wrong - but our entire Christian life. There are more Christians who believe in some form of works salvation than those who believe in the work of salvation done by God's grace.

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Posted : 19 Aug, 2022 01:12 PM

Teddyhug



You need to think about yourself in on judgement day!



Since you been posting your sinless perfectionism garage on on this forum.



When you learn you're Never sinless while on this earth will be your beginning of knowledge.



You have an ugly, name calling mouth on you .

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Posted : 19 Aug, 2022 01:13 PM

" garbage" untruths



Corrected

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Posted : 19 Aug, 2022 01:17 PM

Romans 2:17-23

Paul, in a way, praises the Jew who rests in the law. But he doesn't accuse these people for not doing the rituals. He accuses them of stealing, engaging in adultery and commiting sacrilege. They do the very things they teach others not to do.



The argument that God has paul present in romans 1:18-3:18 is that gentiles and jews are sinners. The gentiles sin without the law, the jews sin even though they have the law. Romans 3:10-18 contains verses from the old testament. These scriptures are like the four fingers of the hand of the jew pointing back at him, while he points with his index finger at the gentiles. The law only produces guilt and condemnation. By the law is the knowledge of sin.



So by the works of the law no one is justified. Paul is not dealing with a false understanding of the law. He is dealing with the law as a system.



Sin was in the world before the law(romans 5:13).

The law entered that sin might abound(5:20).

But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound.



Yes, I approach the Word of God as seriously and earnestly as you do. Believe it or not, I understand the position that works salvation people take. God had to take the scales off my eyes some 40 years ago. God will use His Word to accomplish His purpose.

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Posted : 19 Aug, 2022 01:26 PM

Hand over the $500 because you have claimed repeatedly and falsely how you don’t sin anymore.



I’ve also showed you the correct interpretation of John but you just ignore it because you think you don’t sin.



The only way you can boast that you don’t sin anymore is to assume your old nature has been perfected which is a lie‼️‼️ Because John says the person who says he doesn’t sin anymore is really calling God a liar‼️‼️



So I’ll open up another thread and fill it with your quotes about you claiming to be as perfect as Jesus and your other lies ‼️‼️‼️





Stop blaming everybody else whenever you write such incoherent posts that even you can’t explain‼️‼️‼️



At least understand your own false beliefs‼️‼️‼️

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Posted : 19 Aug, 2022 01:30 PM

THIS IS HILARIOUS FOLKS and YOU CANNOT MAKE IT UP BECAUSE ITS HEREFOR ALL TO READ!!!



Quote of what littledavid said IN HIS OWN WORDS TO ME! LOL!



'Why don’t you and your >>>mermaid<<< just go out to the edge of your >>>make believe flat earth<<< and ride your >>>unicorns<<< together into the sunset'



HA! So 'mermaid(s) and 'unicorns' are NOT make believe but "flat earth' is by his own words readers!



That's right readers 'mermaid(s) and 'unicorns' are REAL according to littledavid along with his collection of comic books, even the comics in his school books showing a rotating, spinning, wobbling, earth, going around a SUN 'god' in a 'solar system' within a 'outer space' and then showing boats sailing off a supposed edge!!!???



THERE IS NO EDGE as the earth is enclosed by a firmament (Genesis 1:6-8!) and there is WATER ABOVE IT AND BELOW IT, ITS A BIBLICAL FACT of REAL SCIENCE!

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Posted : 19 Aug, 2022 01:55 PM

Everyone, except for a false teacher, like Flat Earth TeddyHug, believes science and the Bible prove the earth is flat‼️‼️‼️



Yes, that’s right folks. If you doubt me, read it again‼️‼️



Then the false teacher TeddyHug offers $500 to anyone who can offer a quote from the TeddyBug claiming God makes a person’s sin nature sinless and perfect once they become saved‼️‼️‼️



Well, take a look at the new thread filled with TeddyHug quotes with more TB quotes to come‼️‼️‼️



You’ll see a few incoherent ramblings quoted from someone who most likely doesn’t understand what he’s saying

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Posted : 19 Aug, 2022 02:21 PM

littledavid says - 'So I’ll open up another thread and fill it with your quotes about you claiming to be as perfect as Jesus and your other lies!'



Best of luck too you junior! To this day you have FAILED to show where I said I was sinless, even Quiznos knows I have NEVER said such a thing and you only accuse others of saying so when they quote Scripture like me and ADAM7777 have done! So you forfeit your 500 buckaroos you could use for the dizziness and medication you need because your spinning GLOBLET MODEL you claim you live on outside of Scripture of course, when the Bible says the EARTH NEVER MOVES dude! BUSTED!



littledavid says - 'The only way you can boast that you don’t sin anymore is to assume your old nature has been perfected which is a lie‼️‼️



AGAIN show me anywhere on this forum where I said 'old nature has been perfected' ??? Your a LIAR! And besides that's a OXYMORON to cleans a sinful 'old nature' for its ONLY by the NEW BORN AGAIN NATURE from heaven freely given that you can be HOLY and PERFECTED in! Why two natures then if the old can be cleansed according to JUST you, in your mind, by your own words!!! You are your own enemy, aren't you littledavid???



For littledavid even calls John a 'sinless perfectionist' and John even must of claimed to cleanse the old nature also according to littledavid when John posts this - 1 John 3:9! ' Whosoever is born of YHWH >>>doth not commit sin;<<< for His seed remaineth in him/her: and >>>he/she cannot sin<<<, because he/she is born of YHWH.



So littledavid says the SAME John has contradictions according to FAITHLESS littledavid when liitledavid says - 'Because John says the person who says he doesn’t sin anymore is really calling God a liar!



NOTE FRIENDS THIS IS SCARY because littledavid first of all does not provide the actual verse and where it is found and its EXACT WORDING to deceive others here as the false teacher that he is! Ooooh my!



HERE IS WHAT THE VERSE SAYS AND IT LOCATION, Ok? - 1 John 1:8 'If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.'



There is a HUGE difference in John supposedly saying 'he doesn’t sin anymore' (these are only littledavids words, he puts words in the Bible! ) to that of WHAT John actually said in 1 John 1:8 - 'If we say that we have no sin' or that we have NEVER nor EVER have sinned in the >>>past<<< because we then make Father YHWH out to be a LIAR! Right? This is the only way to make this verse that is talking about those that have NEVER admitted to being a sinner at some point in their >>PAST<<< lives contrasted with what John wrote about the SINLESS SAINTS when he said in 1 John 3:9! ' Whosoever is born of YHWH >>>doth not commit sin;<<< for His seed remaineth in him/her: and >>>he/she cannot sin<<<, because he/she is born of YHWH.



Note readers, these BORN AGAIN SINLESS SAINTS are not claiming, nor is John saying that they were NOT ever sinners because ALL HAVE SINNED (except Messiah Yah'shua!) AT SOME POINT IN THEIR >>>PAST<<< LIVES! OK?

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Posted : 19 Aug, 2022 03:20 PM

The false teacher can’t deny his own lies so he falsely accuses me of saying sinless perfectionist claim they have never sinned.



I’ve already said that sinless perfectionists, like the TeddyBug, claim they never sin AFTER salvation. That’s not the same as saying they never sinned before salvation.

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Posted : 19 Aug, 2022 03:31 PM

Audience, ask yourselves why the TeddyBug refuses to answer this question:

When did you last confess sin⁉️

The Lord’s Prayer commands us to confess our sins daily but how long has it been since the sinless perfectionist denier TeddyBug has confessed any sin⁉️⁉️

Of course, sinless perfectionists and other false teachers deny that their teachings are false teachings. But as proven, their teachings betray their identity

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