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πŸ™‚πŸ’―πŸ‘ let's fix this once and for all in regards to the Christmas tree being prohibited by Jeremiah 10
Posted : 27 Dec, 2021 02:14 PM

dear readers unfortunately we still have these legalists every Christmas season who refuse to turn their Bibles right side up when reading it



as the late great Dr Walter Martin founder of the Christian researcher institute an author of many apologetics books once said

" a text without its context is a pretext "



Here's another example of poor hermeneutics by dom_64 to attempt to demonstrate that Christmas trees are pagan and an abomination to God



" In Jeremiah 10:2-4 the Word of God says, "Thus saith the Lord, Learn not the way of the heathen....For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not " dom_64 ( the female teddy bugs )



β˜ΉοΈπŸ’―πŸ‘Ž FALSE ❗❗



πŸ™‚πŸ’―πŸ‘ Now for the TRUTH



Jeremiah mocked the idolatry of Judah, especially as it imitated the idolatry of the surrounding nations. Similar passages mocking the idolatry of the heathen are found in Isaiah 40:18-20 and 44:9-20. Yet, it’s difficult to read this description and condemnation of an ancient pagan custom and πŸ‘‰πŸ‘‰ not immediately think of the custom of the Christmas tree as practiced in the modern Christian world



ii. based on a passage like this a Christian would be convinced that they should not have a Christmas tree or even celebrate Christmas, then they should stand in that conviction. It is good to remember what Paul wrote: whatever is not from faith is sin (Romans 14:23).



iii. Nevertheless, there are many reasons to believe that despite some similarities, the differences are even greater and πŸ‘‰πŸ‘‰ do not prohibit the modern custom of the Christmas tree.



Β· Jeremiah spoke regarding the customs of the Gentiles, and in the modern world πŸ‘‰πŸ‘‰ the appropriate celebration of Christmas is an expression of belief in God and His Son, not a custom of unbelievers



Β· Jeremiah spoke of believers borrowing customs of unbelievers; in the modern world, when an unbeliever has a Christmas tree πŸ‘‰πŸ‘‰ it is a case of unbelievers borrowing the customs of believers



Β· Jeremiah spoke of a tree regarded as an idol, and (properly understood) the modern Christmas tree is πŸ‘‰πŸ‘‰ 🚫 NOT an idol. If for a family it is or becomes an idol, it should be discarded with.



Β· Jeremiah spoke to a time in history when trees were often directly connected with idolatry, either literal trees or their representations (Jeremiah 2:27)

Germany is credited with starting the Christmas tree tradition as we now know it in the 16th century when devout Christians brought decorated trees into their homes



πŸ€”πŸ€”πŸ€ͺπŸ€ͺ does anybody know of anybody that's bowed down to a Christmas tree thereby committing idolatry ❓❓ of course not that's just plain SILLY πŸ€ͺπŸ€ͺ🀣🀣🀣🀣🀣🀣



πŸ™‚πŸ˜‰ trying to use Jeremiah 10 as a pro theological argument to denounce Christmas trees as pagan practices makes as about as much sense as the Quakers who don't use electricity because they think in some way shape or form that modern technology is evil πŸ’‘πŸ™ˆπŸ™‰πŸ™Š



πŸ™‚πŸ™‚ a lot of us love quaker oats for breakfast in the morning πŸ₯£ and the good old electric powered microwave helps us do it and likewise with our Christmas trees that help us appreciate the birth of our Lord God and Savior Jesus Christ this time of year -- I'm sure most of you will agree πŸ™‚πŸ’―πŸ‘

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πŸ™‚πŸ’―πŸ‘ let's fix this once and for all in regards to the Christmas tree being prohibited by Jeremiah 10
Posted : 29 Dec, 2021 11:19 AM

the definition of idolatry, according to Webster, is β€œthe worship of idols or excessive devotion to, or reverence for some person or thing.” An idol is anything that replaces the one, true God. The most prevalent form of idolatry in Bible times was the worship of images that were thought to embody the various pagan deities.

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πŸ™‚πŸ’―πŸ‘ let's fix this once and for all in regards to the Christmas tree being prohibited by Jeremiah 10
Posted : 29 Dec, 2021 11:24 AM

πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈπŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ again I don't know of anybody that bows down to Christmas trees so Jeremiah 10 doesn't apply



πŸ™‚πŸ‘πŸ’― 1 Corinthians 10:31 So whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, do it all for the glory of God



and Christmas trees do just that they bring glory to Jesus Christ every season

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πŸ™‚πŸ’―πŸ‘ let's fix this once and for all in regards to the Christmas tree being prohibited by Jeremiah 10
Posted : 29 Dec, 2021 11:35 AM

Glory to the god of this world yes, Paul told us in Colossians 2:8 these things are rudiments of the world and not after Christ. Christmas is carnal, earthly, and devilish. I have no scripture in my bible Jesus celebrating his birthday, the only time we read Jesus talking about his birth was talking to Piliate in John 18:37 that he was born to die. Is it of God do you have a scripture of how and when and what to do to celebrate the birth? Nope, Christmess pies, cakes, tree etc. It is of the devil it is not of God we have no scriptures, it is adding to the scriptures. I am into the death nothing in the birth for anybody except a strong delusion to believe a lie to be sent to hell with. Christmess is a doctrine of devils and seducing spirits curtisy of the Pope in Rome.



Col 2:8] Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.



John 18:37] Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.



Rev 2:14] But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumblingblock before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication.

[15] So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which thing I hate.

[16] Repent; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth.

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πŸ™‚πŸ’―πŸ‘ let's fix this once and for all in regards to the Christmas tree being prohibited by Jeremiah 10
Posted : 29 Dec, 2021 11:46 AM

You are bowing down to the tree everytime you put gifts under it, even having it in your house shows an abomination. God killed all the nations around Isreal in the old testament and told the Israelites they are loved because they were few, nobody else had the traditions like the Isrealites had. The bible says we are a peculiar people in Christ in 1st Peter 2:9. How peculiar ate you with a tree and booze and food in your house? Not very peculiar. The whole world does the same thing. How are you different from the devil's crowd when you ate following and holding hands at the same table going to the same riot of excess? Not at all.



1st Peter 2:[9] But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:10] Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.



Deutronomey 14:2] for thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God, and the LORD hath chosen thee to be a peculiar people unto himself, above all the nations that are upon the earth

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πŸ™‚πŸ’―πŸ‘ let's fix this once and for all in regards to the Christmas tree being prohibited by Jeremiah 10
Posted : 29 Dec, 2021 12:29 PM

Gospel‼️ NOBODY here is trying to turn Christmas into an article of faith or a doctrinal statement‼️‼️‼️

Your hanky is all twisted in a wad over what⁉️⁉️

If you don’t wanna mess around with Christmas, more power to ya‼️

But if other people wanna use Christmas as a tool, so to speak, as an opportunity to explain Jesus’s adventβ€”what’s wrong with that⁉️⁉️

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πŸ™‚πŸ’―πŸ‘ let's fix this once and for all in regards to the Christmas tree being prohibited by Jeremiah 10
Posted : 29 Dec, 2021 12:33 PM

Jesus Christ is alive setting at the right hand if the Father God in heaven .



I see your cannot rightly divide the Word of Truth/ Scripture.



Your responses are totally off.





Seek for Wisdom .

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πŸ™‚πŸ’―πŸ‘ let's fix this once and for all in regards to the Christmas tree being prohibited by Jeremiah 10
Posted : 29 Dec, 2021 01:47 PM

That Jesus sitting on the right hand of the Father was not the same Jesus Mary produced. Mary's Jesus is dead and buried end of story we know him no more after thr flesh 2nd Cor 5:16-17. The one born of God who arose from the dead is the Jesus mankind needs and not the one born

Of Mary in Bethlehem. By faith Jesus is in me through his words Col 1:27. Jesus sitting by the righthand power of God will only be a dead thing unless he is in you. When God looks at me he sees his Son as Christ is in me the hope of glory. I do not hope to male heaven or have a hope in Christ like most Christians do. I possess that hope, I know I am going to make the new earth and heaven. Mankind have a hope and it will never work and are miserable; they need lights, gifts trees, food, booze, stories etc and it will never be enough. The born again Jesus, no blood, full of holes, a dead man walking a new creation born of God is the one mankind is in need of. The 25th of December does not change or heal man it is the birthday of a lie and not the truth.



1st Cor 2:2] For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.

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πŸ™‚πŸ’―πŸ‘ let's fix this once and for all in regards to the Christmas tree being prohibited by Jeremiah 10
Posted : 29 Dec, 2021 03:00 PM

Revelation 1:18



I was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore.









Nasb

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πŸ™‚πŸ’―πŸ‘ let's fix this once and for all in regards to the Christmas tree being prohibited by Jeremiah 10
Posted : 29 Dec, 2021 03:26 PM

What was dead and what became alive? The Jesus born of Mary is dead 2nd Cor 5:16-17. Jesus was dead the one born of Mary and he became alive how? By the spirit of God his Father old things are passed away and all things become new.



Acts 13:29] And when they had fulfilled all that was written of him, they took him down from the tree, and laid him in a sepulchre. --》 old Jesus

[30] But God raised him from the dead:

[31] And he was seen many days of them which came up with him from Galilee to Jerusalem, who are his witnesses unto the people.--》New Jesus born again of the spirit



Romans 8:11] But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

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πŸ™‚πŸ’―πŸ‘ let's fix this once and for all in regards to the Christmas tree being prohibited by Jeremiah 10
Posted : 29 Dec, 2021 03:31 PM

Jesus Christ

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