Did post this then - "All >>>have<<< sinned and fell short of the Glory of God."
And sin is described in a past tense! Correct?
So by the POWER of YHWH we can live a sin free life! Deny that power and go back to sin and DIE!
Hugs, you had better read multiple times Romans 3 verses 21 - 26
21 But now apart from Law, the righteousness of God has been revealed, being borne witness to by the Law and the Prophets.
22 And the righteousness of God is through faith from Jesus Christ toward all those believing. For there is no distinction,
23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
24 being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus,
25 whom God set forth as a propitiation through faith in His blood, for a showing forth of His righteousness, because of the forbearance of the sins having taken place beforehand,
26 in the forbearance of God, for the showing forth of His righteousness in the present time, for Him to be just, and justifying the one of the faith of Jesus.
I find it very sad that these few men argue among themselves constantly. None of their arguments are discussions - they are merely being guided by Satan to divert the understanding of the new people who might read the forums. When a person is just beginning to look for God and to understand the Bible, you few men who quibble and bicker discourage that person. It doesn't take long to see you use copy and paste and continue trying to "win" over the other men. Shame on you for letting Satan guide you.
1John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
2:1 My little children, these things write I to you, that you sin not. And if any one sins, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
THE SON OF GOD DECLARED THE FATHER TO THIS DARKNESS WORLD OF MAN...
John 1:5 And the light shineth in darkness; and THE DARKNESS COMPRE4HENDED IT NOT.
John 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath DECLARED HIM.
THIS IS THE MESSAGE DECLARED TO THE DARKNESS OF MEN..
GOD IS LIGHT AND TYOU CANNOT FELLOWSHIP WITH HIM IN ANY OF YOUR DARKNESS..
1 John 1:5 This then is the message which we have heard of him,AND DECLARE UNTO YOU , that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.
6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and WALK IN DARKNESS, WE LIE,, and do not the truth:
7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
ITS REPENTING OF ALL DARKNESS THEN CLEANSED OF ALL DARKNESS/UNRIGHTEOUSNESS BY JESUS CHRIST
CONTINUES, WE FORSAKE THE SINS TO HAVE MERCY..
Proverbs 28:13 He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso CONFESSTH AND FORSAKETH them shall have mercy.
AS THE MERCY WE SHOW REJOICES OVER GODS JUDGEMENT..
James 2:13 For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment.
THE CHASRITY CHRIST GIVES INTO US COVERS THE MULTITUDE OF SINS WHEN WE WALK IN PERFECT CHARITY...
1 Peter 4:8 And above all things have fervent charity among yourselves: for charity shall cover the multitude of sins.
IT IS BLESSED TO HAVE OUR SINS COVERED ( FORSAKEN ALSO)
Romans 4:7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.
AS GOD SENT HIS SON TO BLESS US IN TURNING US AWAY FROM ALL INIQUITY..
Acts 3:26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.
UNGODLINESS IS TURNED AWAY FROM JACOB, THIS IS THE CIVENANT HE MAKES WITH US WHEN GOD TAKES AWAY OUR SINS (AS PER 1 JOHN 1 CLEANSES US OF ALL UNRIGHTEOUSNESS)...
Romans 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
AS CHRIST GAVE HIMSELF FOR US TO FREDEEM US FROM ALL INIQUITY...
Titus 2:14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
ALSO CHRIST HAS ALRTEADY DECLARED, ALL WORKERS OF INIQUITY ARE TO DEPART FROM HIM WHO CALL HIM LORD LORD..
Luke 13:27 But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.
28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.
Once again you reveal how you understand or do not understand how to read, and study the Scriptures.
You do as most people, you think of a subject, then you find as many scripture to fit into your subject, yet you never give the entire context that refutes your understanding.
John writes, 1 John 1 verse 5 - 10
5 This is the message we have heard from Him and announce to you, that God is Light, and in Him there is no darkness at all.
6 If we say that we have fellowship with Him and yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth;
7 but if we walk in the Light as He Himself is in the Light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin.
8 If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar and His word is not in us.
Verse 9, to cleanse, this is in the PRESENT indicative ACTIVE tense, meaning GOD Almighty is always cleansing us, as we are not completely SINLESS in this life.
Titus 2:14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and PURIFY UNTO HIMSELF a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
1 John 3:3 And every man that hath this hope in him PURIFIETH HIMSELF, EVEN AS HE IS PURE.
4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
7 Little children, let no man deceive you: HE THAT DOETH RIGHTEOUSNESS IS RIGHTEOUS, EVEN AS HE IS RIGHTEOUS.
8 HE THAT COMMITETH SIN IS OF THE DEVIL; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
9 Whosoever is BORN OF GOD DOTH NOT COMMIT SIN; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.
James 4:5 Do ye think that the scripture saith in vain, The spirit that dwelleth in us lusteth to envy?
6 But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble.
7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. RESIST THE DEVIL AND HE WILL FLEE FROM YOU.
8 Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. CLEANSE YOUR HANDS, YE SINNERS, and PURIFY YOUR HEARTS, ye double minded.
Hebrews 9:13 For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, SANCTIFIETH FOR THER PURIFYING OF THE FLESH:
14 How much more shall THE BLOOD OF CHRIST, who through THE ETERNAL SPIRIT offered himself WITHOUT SPOT to God, PURGE YOUR CONSCIENCE from dead works to serve the living God?
Psalm 24:3 Who shall ascend into the hill of the Lord? or who shall stand in his holy place?
4 He that hath clean hands, and A PURE HEART; who hath not lifted up his soul unto vanity, nor sworn deceitfully.
5 He shall receive the BLESSING FROM THE LORD, and RIGHTEOUSNESS from the GOD of HIS SALVATION.
6 This is the GENERATION of THEM THAT SEEK HIM, that seek thy face, O Jacob. Selah.
Matthew 5:5 Blessed are the MEEK: for they shall inherit the earth.
6 Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst AFTER RIGHTEOUSNESS: for they shall be filled.
7 Blessed are THE MERCIFUL: for they SHALL OBTAIN MERCY.
8 Blessed are THE PURE IN HEART: for they shall SEE GOD.
2 Corinthians 6:3 Giving NO OFFENCE IN ANY THING, that the ministry be not blamed:
4 But in all things APPROVING OURSELVES as the ministers of God, in much patience, in afflictions, in necessities, in distresses,
5 In stripes, in imprisonments, in tumults, in labours, in watchings, in fastings;
6 BY PURENESS, by knowledge, by long suffering, BY KINDNESS, by the Holy Ghost, by LOVE UNFEIGNED,
1 Timothy 1:5 Now the end of the commandment is CHARITY OUT OF A PURE HEART, and OF A GOOD CONSCIENCE, and OF FAITH UNFEIGNED:
1 Timothy 3:9 Holding the mystery of the FAITH IN A OURE CONSCIENCE.
1 Timothy 5:22 Lay hands suddenly on no man, neither be partaker of other men's sins: KEEP THYSELF PURE.
2 Timothy 1:3 I thank God, whom I serve from my forefathers WITH PURE CONSCIENCE, that without ceasing I have remembrance of thee in my prayers night and day;
2 Timothy 2:22 Flee also youthful lusts: but follow RIGHTEOUSNESS, faith, charity, peace, with them that CALL ON THE LORD OUT OF A PURE HEART.
Titus 1:15 UNTO THE PURE ALL THINGS ARE PURE: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.
1 Peter 1:22 Seeing ye have PURIFIED YOUR SOULS IN OBEYING THE TRUTH THROUGH THE SPIRIT unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another WITH A PURE HEART FERVENTLY:
2 Peter 3:1 This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up YOUR PURE MINDS by way of remembrance:
I find it very sad that these few men argue among themselves constantly. None of their arguments are discussions - they are merely being guided by Satan to divert the understanding of the new people who might read the forums. When a person is just beginning to look for God and to understand the Bible, you few men who quibble and bicker discourage that person. It doesn't take long to see you use copy and paste and continue trying to "win" over the other men. Shame on you for letting Satan guide you.”
End quote the Alligator
Thanks for the vote of confidence!!
So in your narrow judgement, all the men here are “being guided by Satan.” ???
Alligator, did you know that Moses, the Prophets of old, Jesus and the Apostles ALL engaged in refuting false doctrine ???
Some weren’t too nice about either.
No doubt their methods would offend your delicate sensitivities
Were these inspired men of God doing the work of Satan??? !!!
Why do you judge the men who are trying as best they can (maybe not very perfectly) the example of these holy men??
Alligator, did you know that many parts of the Bible were written specifically to refute false teaching?? And if you’ve read any of their writings about false teachers—it’s not very pretty!!
But that’s ok Alli, lots of other people as well who claim to love God don’t know that either. Is it because these people don’t bother to read the Bible or is it because they they don’t bother to understand it? Probably a little both. Could be because they just plain don’t care about defending truth??? But I tell ya, they are sure to judge those who do.
Oh btw, I’ve some of your own posts might be subject to the judgements you issued in your last post, so watch out.
Rom 5:15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.
20 Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:
