Salvation: How much sin must a person REPENT of before Messiah is able to save them!!!
Posted : 12 Jun, 2020 09:24 AM
Hello everyone:
On this site,the radio, television and in person, i have heard many pastors tell people they need to REPENT of their sins, confess their sins, AND trust Jesus in order to be saved.
I have heard the ' christians ' proclaim these same words when they talk with others about Messiah.
We have to remember what GOD Almighty says in His Word about Salvation, we must not add to or take away from His Word ( If you love me you will not change my Word says Messiah ).
Romans 1 verses 16 - 17
16 I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, first to the Jew, then to the Greek.
17 For the gospel reveals the righteousness of God that comes by faith from start to finish, just as it is written: “The righteous will live by faith.”
Galatians 3 verses 1 - 9
1 You foolish Galatians, who has bewitched you, before whose eyes Jesus Christ was publicly portrayed [as] crucified?
2 This is the only thing I want to find out from you: did you receive the Spirit by the works of the Law, or by hearing with faith?
3 Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh?
4 Did you suffer so many things in vain-- if indeed it was in vain?
5 So then, does He who provides you with the Spirit and works miracles among you, do it by the works of the Law, or by hearing with faith?
6 Even so Abraham BELIEVED GOD, AND IT WAS RECKONED TO HIM AS RIGHTEOUSNESS.
7 Therefore, be sure that it is those who are of faith who are sons of Abraham.
8 The Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel beforehand to Abraham, [saying], "ALL THE NATIONS WILL BE BLESSED IN YOU."
9 So then those who are of faith are blessed with Abraham, the believer.
Romans 4 verses 1- 11
What then shall we say that Abraham, our forefather according to the flesh, has found?
2 For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God.
3 For what does the Scripture say? "ABRAHAM BELIEVED GOD, AND IT WAS CREDITED TO HIM AS RIGHTEOUSNESS."
4 Now to the one who works, his wage is not credited as a favor, but as what is due.
5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited as righteousness,
6 just as David also speaks of the blessing on the man to whom God credits righteousness apart from works:
7 "BLESSED ARE THOSE WHOSE LAWLESS DEEDS HAVE BEEN FORGIVEN, AND WHOSE SINS HAVE BEEN COVERED.
8 "BLESSED IS THE MAN WHOSE SIN THE LORD WILL NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT."
9 Is this blessing then on the circumcised, or on the uncircumcised also? For we say, "FAITH WAS CREDITED TO ABRAHAM AS RIGHTEOUSNESS."
10 How then was it credited? While he was circumcised, or uncircumcised? Not while circumcised, but while uncircumcised;
John 3 verses 14 - 18
14 "As Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up;
15 so that whoever believes will in Him have eternal life.
16 "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.
17 "For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world might be saved through Him. 18 "He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
If a person needs to REPENT of their sins before trusting Messiah to save them, then that is all they will be doing the rest of their lives REPENT and will never trust Messiah ALONE to save them.
The SO CALLED gospel proclaimed today is not the GOSPEL in the Word, rather it is the words of what men believe they need to be doing in order to be saved, because just trusting Messiah to save them is not enough, and is called Easy Believeism.
1. They need to REPENT of their sins
2. They need to confess their sins
3. They need to trust Messiash
Why is He number three, not number one with nothing else following.
Remember the JUST shall live by FAITH.
Anything added to ONLY Grace thru Faith in Messiah saves is not the Gospel.
Galatians 1 verses 6 - 10
6 I am amazed that you are so quickly deserting Him who called you by the grace of Christ, for a different gospel;
7 which is [really] not another; only there are some who are disturbing you and want to distort the gospel of Christ.
8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed!
9 As we have said before, so I say again now, if any man is preaching to you a gospel contrary to what you received, he is to be accursed!
10 For am I now seeking the favor of men, or of God? Or am I striving to please men? If I were still trying to please men, I would not be a bond-servant of Christ.
Salvation: How much sin must a person REPENT of before Messiah is able to save them!!!
Posted : 13 Jun, 2020 03:22 AM
@gator
Gator,post just one verse of Scripture which says that a person needs to ask GOD Almighty to forgive them of their sins.
You cannot, as there is not one that exists.
Psalm 32 verses1 - 2
1 Blessed is he whose transgressions are forgiven,
whose sins are covered.
2 Blessed is the man whose iniquity the LORD does not count against him, in whose spirit there is no deceit.
David never asked to be forgiven, nor did anyone in the New Covenant, we RECEIVE the forgiveness of GOD Almighty as mans sins have already been forgiven.
Messiah went to the cross once for the forgiveness of mans sins, if man needs to forgiven again, then Messiah would need to go back on the cross, But this would put Him to an open shame.
Do you not understand that all of your sins past, present and future have been forgiven, so there is no need to ask to be forgiven.
Salvation: How much sin must a person REPENT of before Messiah is able to save them!!!
Posted : 13 Jun, 2020 05:02 AM
Amen sister! The Lord has called all men to repent!
Acts 17:30. .......Godly sorrow and not manmade sorrow
The Lord gives us the ability to recognize how serious our sinning against his glorious majesty actually is when he draws us unto himself. John 6:44
The Lords gospel reveals to us his love and mercy extended to sinners while 'we were yet sinners' Christ died for our sins. The Lord uses the law as a school master to the lost so that they may see; Gal 3:24. The Lord gives us the eyes to see just how beautiful his free gift of grace is by giving us faith too!
At the same time that our sovereign holy Father gives us the heart of repentance , Acts 11:18, 2Tim 2:25,2Peter 3:9, Romans 2:4; the Lord also gives us the measure of faith, Ephes 2:8. Romans 12:3
It is all about our Lord, the triune LORD/ADANAI.
Holy Holy Holy Lord God Almighty.
Easy believism has swept the world . It is a false gospel ,gal 1:8, and it should be corrected at every cost. The Lord called his elect who are redeemed to defend the faith. Without repentance; there is no heart conversion.
Salvation: How much sin must a person REPENT of before Messiah is able to save them!!!
Posted : 13 Jun, 2020 05:28 AM
**ANOTHER SATANIC QUOTE BY QUIZNOS"
"Post just one verse of Scripture which says that a person needs to ask GOD Almighty to forgive them of their sins. You cannot, as there is not one that exists."
Luke 11:1-4: The **DISCIPLES** asked Jesus, "Lord teach as to pray." Jesus replied **TO HIS DISCIPLES**, "When you pray, say: '**FATHER**, hallowed be your name, your kingdom come. Give us each day our **DAILY** bread. **FORGIVE US OUR SINS**, for we also forgive everyone who sins against us!'"
I John 1:8-10: If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us . If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. If we claim we have not sinned we make Him out to be a liar and His Word is not in us !!
Salvation: How much sin must a person REPENT of before Messiah is able to save them!!!
Posted : 13 Jun, 2020 09:16 AM
**ANOTHER SATANIC QUOTE BY QUIZNOS"
"Post just one verse of Scripture which says that a person needs to ask GOD Almighty to forgive them of their sins. You cannot, as there is not one that exists."
Show any Scripture after the Resurrection where anyone taught that believers need to ask to be forgiven.
Luke 11:1-4: The **DISCIPLES** asked Jesus, "Lord teach as to pray." Jesus replied **TO HIS DISCIPLES**, "When you pray, say: '**FATHER**, hallowed be your name, your kingdom come. Give us each day our **DAILY** bread. **FORGIVE US OUR SINS**, for we also forgive everyone who sins against us!'"
Matthew 28:18-20 Jesus says, " All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to Me! Therefore go and make disciples of all nations... Teaching them to **OBEY EVERYTHING** I have commanded you!" {Which would include Luke 11:1-4 above!}
I John 1:8-10: If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us . If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. If we claim we have not sinned we make Him out to be a liar and His Word is not in us !! {I John was written about AD 65 which was about 32 years **AFTER** the Resurrection of Jesus!}
