I see/hear a lot of arguing about various matters concerning the Bible and the world we live in. I think we can waste too much time going in circles about what is and what isn't, especially when there are people on two opposing sides.
Titus 3:8-11 This is a faithful saying, and these things I will that thou affirm constantly, that they which have believed in God might be careful to maintain good works. These things are good and profitable unto men. But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain. A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject; Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself.
There's no reason to fuss and fret over what others say. Even when Christ was faced with Pilate's questioning, He said very little. In fact, this impacted Pilate all the more, and he wanted to release Jesus, but didn't due to the pressure put on him by the crowd.
John 19:9-12 And went again into the judgment hall, and saith unto Jesus, Whence art thou? But Jesus gave him no answer. Then saith Pilate unto him, Speakest thou not unto me? knowest thou not that I have power to crucify thee, and have power to release thee? Jesus answered, Thou couldest have no power at all against me, except it were given thee from above: therefore he that delivered me unto thee hath the greater sin. And from thenceforth Pilate sought to release him: but the Jews cried out, saying, If thou let this man go, thou art not Caesar's friend: whosoever maketh himself a king speaketh against Caesar.
Arguing with someone is mostly pointless. When we argue with our words, people tend to become bolder and cling to their position all the more because if they give in, they're surrendering to their opponent.
God's word is always enough, and He will make good on His Word, so we don't have to push it. His Word is piercing like a two-edged sword. When we share what He has said, there's nothing more we need to add. Someone can either accept it or reject it, but it falls on them.
Heb 4:12 or the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
Be kind, be courteous, and be honest, but if someone rejects truth, then don't be afraid to walk away. God will still be there when you're gone, and He has it in his hands.
Matt 10:12-14 And when ye come into an house, salute it. And if the house be worthy, let your peace come upon it: but if it be not worthy, let your peace return to you. And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.
**IS JESUS CHRIST CO-EQUAL WITH GOD THE FATHER**??
Teddyhugger believes that our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and the Everlasting Father are one and the same Being?? It is true that some people called Jesus the Everlasting Father in Isaiah 9:6 for Jesus said the Father and I are One and if you have seen Me you have seen the Father since they are both God and believe exactly the same.
The Roman Catholic Church was the first denomination to state that God the father and His Son Jesus are completely **CO-EQUAL** in AD 325.
Question: Is Jesus who is God **CO-EQUAL** with God the Father?
**WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY**??
John 14:28: Jesus says, "If you loved Me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the **FATHER IS GREATER THAN I**!"
John 10:27-30: Jesus says, "My sheep listen to My voice, I know them, and they follow Me. I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish, no one can snatch them out of My hand. **MY FATHER, WHO HAS GIVEN THEM TO ME** is **GREATER THAN ALL**!"
John 6:37,39,44,65: Jesus says, "**ALL** that the Father gives Me **WILL** come to Me, and whoever comes to Me I will **NEVER** drive away... And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that I shall **LOSE NONE** of all that He has given Me, but raise them up at the Last Day.... No one can come to Me **UNLESS** the Father who sent Me **DRAWS HIM**, and I will raise him up at the Last Day!!... No one can come to Me **UNLESS** the Father has **ENABLED THEM**!!"
John 17:17: Jesus says to His Father, "Sanctify them by the truth **YOUR WORD** is Truth!!"
Deuteronomy 18:17-20: The Lord said to Moses, "I will raise up for them a Prophet from among their fellow Israelites, and I will put My words in His mouth. He will tell them everything I command Him. I Myself will call to account anyone who does not listen to My words that the Prophet speaks in My Name!"
John 14:23-24: Jesus says, "Anyone who loves Me will obey My teaching. My Father will love them, and **WE** will come to them and make **OUR HOME** with them. Anyone who does not love Me will not obey My teaching. These words you hear are not My own; **THEY BELONG TO THE FATHER WHO SENT ME**!"
Revelation 1:1: The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which **GOD GAVE HIM**!
Jesus is the **HEAD** of God's Kingdom in the NT era until His 2nd Coming and **THEN** He will hand over the **ETERNAL** Kingdom to God the Father!
I Corinthians 15:23-24: For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive. But each in turn: Christ, the Firstfruits, then, when He comes, those who belong to Him. **THEN** He will hand over the {**ETERNAL**}Kingdom to God the Father!
There are 7 passages in the New Testament which state that we should **ONLY PRAY TO GOD THE FATHER**!! **SUCH AS**:
Matthew 6:6-10: Jesus says, "When you pray, go into your room, close the door and **PRAY TO YOUR FATHER**, who is unseen. Then **YOUR FATHER**, who sees what is done in secret will reward you. And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. Do not be like them for your **FATHER KNOWS** what you need before you ask Him! This then, is how you should pray: 'Our **FATHER** in heaven hallowed be your name, **YOUR {**ETERNAL**}KINGDOM** come, **YOUR WILL** be done, on earth as it is in heaven!'"
Luke 11:4: Jesus says, "When you pray say: '**FATHER**, hallowed be Your Name, your {*ETERNAL*} Kingdom come. Give us each day our daily bread. "**FORGIVE US OUR SINS**, for we forgive everyone who sins against us!'"
Revelation 1:1: The Revelation from Jesus Christ, which **GOD {The *FATHER*} GAVE HIM**!
John 14:28: Jesus says, "If you loved Me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the **FATHER IS GREATER THAN I!
Well "arguing" is NOT "true to life" Toth for SENSIBLE mature people that understand that sooooo many people use it as an excuse to try to shut you up! Really Toth? But that's what Cupcake always does when you disagree with her, your just "arguing" she says in her immaturity and that's that, end of discussion! Its the "chicken little" syndrome when Cupcake has lost the discussion! HA! You remember Toth with your discussion about people going to heaven to live there according to Cupcake and you was discussing (she eventually called it "arguing" because she was losing the discussion! LOL!) that you did not see people living in heaven/paradise for ever and YOU WAS CORRECT and she was wrong! That's the problem with this forum Toth, so many children that just have to get their way and they are ALWAYS right! WAAAAA! LOL! OR your simply "arguing" and you need to shut up! HA! So eventually you cowered to her, cried uncle and that was that! HA!
Thats really the whole purpose of this thread "Wasting Time Arguing" and the timing of it, isn't it Toth? Perfect timing for the verse also, that you think we need to be cowards and let the rocks speak for us because you claim we are all like you, to be defeatist! LOL! Its ok Toth, David and I will be fine without you and AboundingGrace (that both of you hide under their beds trembling of the forum virus Richard) and we will continue our freedom of exposing the false teacher pathetic7744 as well as OBVIOUS false prophet that he is!
Your 3 Thess. (not 2nd Thess. Toth) verse 14 you gave just does not apply to alien Richard because he is NOT a "man" but a robotic "man"- child! OK? The robot of redundant copy and paste! Right? Agree? Oh wait you cannot agree, your still under the bed I see! Strike that last question! LOL! For can you really have "company" with a robot like Richard that has no discussion, because he KNOWS he will be owned if he was to act human! Can you shame a robot? So you can see verse 14 really just cannot apply, can it?
But about verse 15 you also gave!? Naw I don't see Richard as the enemy, just a confused disciple of the devil right now claiming the Messiah sinned supposedly according to Richard when He "broke" the Sabbath commandment! Hmmm.... now about admonishing Richard as a brother, and having two blood brothers myself, I would say we should do like us brothers did! When one got out of line. the two "righteous" ones would give the guilty bro the dutch rub! YEAH, lets all give Richard the dutch rub he so deserves for his false teaching and fake prophecy! And more so for endangering believers into thinking to be careless about the coronavirus, claiming its impossible for them to get it OR OR OR get sick EVER! Absurdity! No?
There I spoke for you Toth and AboundingGrace, for you cowards! I will bring you two some milk and cookies later and tonight some fresh batteries for your flashlights while you continue to hide under your beds from forum virus Richard the boogeyman! OK?
**IS JESUS CHRIST CO-EQUAL WITH GOD THE FATHER**??
Teddyhugger believes that our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and the Everlasting Father are one and the same Being?? It is true that some people called Jesus the Everlasting Father in Isaiah 9:6 for Jesus said the Father and I are One and if you have seen Me you have seen the Father since they are both God and believe exactly the same.
The Roman Catholic Church was the first denomination to state that God the father and His Son Jesus are completely **CO-EQUAL** in AD 325.
Question: Is Jesus who is God **CO-EQUAL** with God the Father?
**WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY**??
John 14:28: Jesus says, "If you loved Me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the **FATHER IS GREATER THAN I**!"
John 10:27-30: Jesus says, "My sheep listen to My voice, I know them, and they follow Me. I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish, no one can snatch them out of My hand. **MY FATHER, WHO HAS GIVEN THEM TO ME** is **GREATER THAN ALL**!"
John 6:37,39,44,65: Jesus says, "**ALL** that the Father gives Me **WILL** come to Me, and whoever comes to Me I will **NEVER** drive away... And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that I shall **LOSE NONE** of all that He has given Me, but raise them up at the Last Day.... No one can come to Me **UNLESS** the Father who sent Me **DRAWS HIM**, and I will raise him up at the Last Day!!... No one can come to Me **UNLESS** the Father has **ENABLED THEM**!!"
John 17:17: Jesus says to His Father, "Sanctify them by the truth **YOUR WORD** is Truth!!"
Deuteronomy 18:17-20: The Lord said to Moses, "I will raise up for them a Prophet from among their fellow Israelites, and I will put My words in His mouth. He will tell them everything I command Him. I Myself will call to account anyone who does not listen to My words that the Prophet speaks in My Name!"
John 14:23-24: Jesus says, "Anyone who loves Me will obey My teaching. My Father will love them, and **WE** will come to them and make **OUR HOME** with them. Anyone who does not love Me will not obey My teaching. These words you hear are not My own; **THEY BELONG TO THE FATHER WHO SENT ME**!"
Revelation 1:1: The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which **GOD GAVE HIM**!
Jesus is the **HEAD** of God's Kingdom in the NT era until His 2nd Coming and **THEN** He will hand over the **ETERNAL** Kingdom to God the Father!
I Corinthians 15:23-24: For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive. But each in turn: Christ, the Firstfruits, then, when He comes, those who belong to Him. **THEN** He will hand over the {**ETERNAL**}Kingdom to God the Father!
There are 7 passages in the New Testament which state that we should **ONLY PRAY TO GOD THE FATHER**!! **SUCH AS**:
Matthew 6:6-10: Jesus says, "When you pray, go into your room, close the door and **PRAY TO YOUR FATHER**, who is unseen. Then **YOUR FATHER**, who sees what is done in secret will reward you. And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. Do not be like them for your **FATHER KNOWS** what you need before you ask Him! This then, is how you should pray: 'Our **FATHER** in heaven hallowed be your name, **YOUR {**ETERNAL**}KINGDOM** come, **YOUR WILL** be done, on earth as it is in heaven!'"
Luke 11:4: Jesus says, "When you pray say: '**FATHER**, hallowed be Your Name, your {*ETERNAL*} Kingdom come. Give us each day our daily bread. "**FORGIVE US OUR SINS**, for we forgive everyone who sins against us!'"
Revelation 1:1: The Revelation from Jesus Christ, which **GOD {The *FATHER*} GAVE HIM**!
John 14:28: Jesus says, "If you loved Me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the **FATHER IS GREATER THAN I!
pathetic7744, claiming that his "Jesus is" NOT "also the **EVERLASTING FATHER**??
Well I guess pathetic7744 is calling Isaiah a LIAR in 9:6 of the Bible then!
Isaiah 9:6 NIV - "For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, >>>Everlasting Father,<<< >>>Prince of Peace."<<<
Well there you have it friends! Richard the pathetic7744 false teacher just got exposed AGAIN!
In all of his post you will see him "attempt" to imply that just because the Messiah was in the flesh at the time on earth, that in all the Bible verses that pathetic7744 the false teacher posts, that He was not equal and or one and the same as His Father! You see pathetic7744 will just say there were "some people (that) called Jesus the Everlasting Father" when ALL PEOPLE that believe ALL of the Bible know the truth and Richard LIES and says "some people" do because he wants you to believe that others believe his SAME LIES!
Now this is hilarious in exposing pathetic7744 very own words NOT from the Bible! For he states -
quote "Teddyhug believes that our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and the Everlasting Father are one and the same Being??" end quote.
NOTE! The BIBLE says "our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ" IS THE >>>Mighty God,<<< AND the >>>Everlasting Father<<< according to Isaiah 9:6 but pathetic7744 says Isaiah is WRONG and therefore a false prophet! Its real simple! The Messiah before becoming Messiah WAS the WORD of the Father, THE Everlasting Father AND Mighty God Himself, the Father's set apart WORD which became flesh eventually and IS today in heaven!
Richard the pathetic7744 false teacher hates Isaiah 9:6 and John chapter 1 of the Bible because it destroys his two deities (he only mentions two) interpretation from the beginning of Creation in Genesis! It should be noted that pathetic7744 also FAILS to realize that the Father moves about by His set apart Holy Spirit in the CREATION account in Genesis chapter 1 and is therefore EQUAL also because He IS A SPIRIT that the Father is! Richard will have to answer to the Father come judgment day for why he falsely taught that just because he was in the flesh the Messiah was NOT equal, or the same as the Father from the beginning stated by John in chapter 1 of the precious truthful Bible.
Unfortunately **TEDDY HUGGER** Has hugged way to many bears and believes many fairy tales such as the **FLAT EARTH** fairy Tale, the **SINLESS PERFECTION** fairy tale and the fairy tale that Jesus and His Father are just one God and that Jesus is also the **EVERLASTING FATHER**??
**IS JESUS CHRIST CO-EQUAL WITH GOD THE FATHER**??
Teddyhugger believes that our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and the Everlasting Father are one and the same Being?? It is true that some people called Jesus the Everlasting Father in Isaiah 9:6 for Jesus said the Father and I are One and if you have seen Me you have seen the Father since they are both God and believe exactly the same.
The Roman Catholic Church was the first denomination to state that God the father and His Son Jesus are completely **CO-EQUAL** in AD 325.
Question: Is Jesus who is God **CO-EQUAL** with God the Father?
**WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY**??
John 14:28: Jesus says, "If you loved Me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the **FATHER IS GREATER THAN I**!"
John 10:27-30: Jesus says, "My sheep listen to My voice, I know them, and they follow Me. I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish, no one can snatch them out of My hand. **MY FATHER, WHO HAS GIVEN THEM TO ME** is **GREATER THAN ALL**!"
John 6:37,39,44,65: Jesus says, "**ALL** that the Father gives Me **WILL** come to Me, and whoever comes to Me I will **NEVER** drive away... And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that I shall **LOSE NONE** of all that He has given Me, but raise them up at the Last Day.... No one can come to Me **UNLESS** the Father who sent Me **DRAWS HIM**, and I will raise him up at the Last Day!!... No one can come to Me **UNLESS** the Father has **ENABLED THEM**!!"
John 17:17: Jesus says to His Father, "Sanctify them by the truth **YOUR WORD** is Truth!!"
Deuteronomy 18:17-20: The Lord said to Moses, "I will raise up for them a Prophet from among their fellow Israelites, and I will put My words in His mouth. He will tell them everything I command Him. I Myself will call to account anyone who does not listen to My words that the Prophet speaks in My Name!"
John 14:23-24: Jesus says, "Anyone who loves Me will obey My teaching. My Father will love them, and **WE** will come to them and make **OUR HOME** with them. Anyone who does not love Me will not obey My teaching. These words you hear are not My own; **THEY BELONG TO THE FATHER WHO SENT ME**!"
Revelation 1:1: The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which **GOD GAVE HIM**!
Jesus is the **HEAD** of God's Kingdom in the NT era until His 2nd Coming and **THEN** He will hand over the **ETERNAL** Kingdom to God the Father!
I Corinthians 15:23-24: For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive. But each in turn: Christ, the Firstfruits, then, when He comes, those who belong to Him. **THEN** He will hand over the {**ETERNAL**}Kingdom to God the Father!
There are 7 passages in the New Testament which state that we should **ONLY PRAY TO GOD THE FATHER**!! **SUCH AS**:
Matthew 6:6-10: Jesus says, "When you pray, go into your room, close the door and **PRAY TO YOUR FATHER**, who is unseen. Then **YOUR FATHER**, who sees what is done in secret will reward you. And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. Do not be like them for your **FATHER KNOWS** what you need before you ask Him! This then, is how you should pray: 'Our **FATHER** in heaven hallowed be your name, **YOUR {**ETERNAL**}KINGDOM** come, **YOUR WILL** be done, on earth as it is in heaven!'"
Luke 11:4: Jesus says, "When you pray say: '**FATHER**, hallowed be Your Name, your {*ETERNAL*} Kingdom come. Give us each day our daily bread. "**FORGIVE US OUR SINS**, for we forgive everyone who sins against us!'"
Revelation 1:1: The Revelation from Jesus Christ, which **GOD {The *FATHER*} GAVE HIM**!
John 14:28: Jesus says, "If you loved Me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the **FATHER IS GREATER THAN I!
Its ok Toth, David and I will be fine without you and AboundingGrace (that both of you hide under their beds trembling of the forum virus Richard) and we will continue our freedom of exposing the false teacher pathetic7744 as well as OBVIOUS false prophet that he is! 
The robot of redundant copy and paste! Right? Agree? Oh wait you cannot agree, your still under the bed I see! Strike that last question! LOL! 
So you can see verse 14 really just cannot apply, can it? 
When one got out of line. the two "righteous" ones would give the guilty bro the dutch rub! 
YEAH, lets all give Richard the dutch rub he so deserves for his false teaching and fake prophecy! 
And more so for endangering believers into thinking to be careless about the coronavirus, claiming its impossible for them to get it OR OR OR get sick EVER! 
Absurdity! 
No?
You see pathetic7744 will just say there were "some people (that) called Jesus the Everlasting Father" when ALL PEOPLE that believe ALL of the Bible know the truth and Richard LIES and says "some people" do because he wants you to believe that others believe his SAME LIES! 