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Do you love God?
Posted : 5 Mar, 2020 07:55 PM

Just a simple question. Do you love God? And why do you love Him?

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Posted : 9 Mar, 2020 08:47 AM

Hi ban,

When GOD Almighty had told Adam not to eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, that was what He required of Adam.

When Adam was put to sleep, GOD Almighty created Eve by using a rib from Adam.

Adam had the responsibility of tilling the garden along with guarding the garden with everything and everyone inside the garden as the enemy of GOD Almighty was already in the garden.

Adam had spoken with Eve concerning what YHWH had told Adam about the trees in the garden, one thing Adam had done was to change what YHWH said, Adam added to what YHWH had said.

Adam had told Eve that ELOHIM had said NOT to TOUCH the fruit of the tree in the garden, or you will die.

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Posted : 9 Mar, 2020 08:50 AM

By changing what ELOHIM had said, Adam had given the enemy all that he needed to bring Adam and Eve to not believe what ELOHIM had said about eating the fruit of tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

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Posted : 9 Mar, 2020 09:06 AM

Before Messiah, the written commandments were the plumb line set for man to follow, if they violated any of the commandments then they SINNED,and a number of sacrifices were in place to act as a way to temporarliy appease GOD Almighty, yet these were only temporary and coud not pay in full the ransom price for the soul of man.

It was not until Meseiah had shed His blood, and gave His life to redeem man, and to forgive man, that the animal sacrificial system was ended.

How do we know that systemwas no longer necessary, Messiah ascended to the right hand of the Father, and the Holy Spirit had been given to man as the down payment of the promises of GOD Almighty concerning His Messiah.

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Posted : 9 Mar, 2020 09:09 AM

Today, Messiah, not the law is the standard of righteousness, as He had come to FILL UP the law, because the law could not make anyone complete, nor could the law be used to save anyone.

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Posted : 9 Mar, 2020 10:01 AM

Quiznos! I thought WHAT??? I remember as a kid a different story! I had to look this up and sure enough my memory has not failed me yet! What is a matter with you dude, can you not read??? One of my favorite Bibles from way back says.....



Gen 3:2-4 NASB "The >>woman said<< to the serpent, "From the fruit of the trees of the garden we may eat; but from the fruit of the tree which is in the middle of the garden, God has said, 'You shall not eat from it or touch it, or you will die. The serpent said to the >>woman,<< "You surely will not die!"



So what's up with the deceptive lie that Adam is the one that said not to touch the tree or he will die? Are there two Eve's and "Adam" is not "Adam" but Adanette now??? LOL! Adam is not a woman and the verse VERY CLEARLY says EVE THE WOMAN was being spoken too, NOT Adam dude! Are you like a "feminist" against men or something? Why the disrespect of Scripture?



The WHOLE time the serpent is SPEAKING to the woman and SHE is speaking back! Not Adam! Adam is NOT even mentioned in those verses! Read above again! You know I don't know if you can help me because you cannot even read the simplist of Biblical writing!



Back much later to answer the rest of your posts.

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Posted : 9 Mar, 2020 10:12 AM

Ban,

ELOHIM, create Adam, then tell him not to eat of the tree, then Elohim puts Adam to sleep in order to create Eve.

When did ELOHIM ever talk to Eve about eating from the tree,hmmm good question.

Have you ever heard of the saying called Whisper down the lane Adam and Eve were the first to do that.

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Posted : 9 Mar, 2020 05:12 PM

Of course Adam was put to sleep in order to create Eve! You dream into Scripture that Adam was told about the tree before making Eve! WHAT does that have to do with the snake (satan) speaking to JUST EVE ONLY later on by herself? Its a Biblical fact! You trying to weasel your way out of your FALSE teaching! Yepper as you say, that is what you are doing! Why would God even need to talk with Eve by herself??? HE SPEAKS with ONLY ADAM in verse 3, HE is the head of the household! Man! You dream your doctrine in the Bible dude! Look the Bible is clear they both knew not to eat of the tree, so it only makes sense Eve talking to satan at first, then came up with the no touch tree thing on here own! BUT WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES ANY of those little details make to the REAL truth, other than exposing your dreamy new doctrine, because EVE was first to disobey a "law" of God, THEN Adam because he was female whipped! LOL! Is not most men these days? HA! Its simple with you isn't it, create a distraction from answering my fundamental "sin" questions with your silly saying called "Whisper down the lane" for your new childish doctrine! LMBO! You are a classic case of imagination into the Bible dude! Dangerious to yourself and to others AND a major distraction!



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Posted : 9 Mar, 2020 05:20 PM

Ahhhhh so there they are AGAIN, finally the commandments of GOD you FINALLY mention! What took you so long, don't care much for them? Have a problem with some of them? I don't! If I have broken one or more then I need to repent I guess BUT I still dont know what they are??? ARRRG! So I remember thinking back to my sunday school teacher, she said - the animal sacrifices back in OT times represented the ugliness of "sin" she said, the person offering the animal sacrifices was the one to cut the throat and kill it. Then the priest would take it to offer it up, this showed the sinning person death comes to sinners. The sacrifices had to be perfect and unblemished to be sacrificed, she said because they represented the coming Messiah that is perfect without sin! All the animal sacrifices pointed forward to Christ and they are now ended in there purpose! Christ has been sacrificed and all of that old

system is a done deal!



Now this "ransom price for the soul of man" you mentioned and what is a soul? Does man have a soul put in him and he GOT SOUL one day like people today GOT MILK one day??? LOL!



You say - "Today, Messiah, not the law is the standard of righteousness" and I ask you then what "law" today points to the Messiah which kept the "law" perfectly as an example of perfect righteousness? AND you have yet to identify what that "law" is to be kept that the Messiah kept! Yeah I would say the Messiah "come to FILL UP the law" PERFECTLY as an example that He was the only

human NOT to break it! Not to do away with it that I can find!? Are you saying the "law" was nailed to the cross then? Because I only see at present that the animal sacrifices were done away with, the priest duties etc etc. The "law" was never meant to save anyone because all have broke it!



While we are back on the "law" topic....WHY did you not answer my post about was it a "law" to NOT eat of that forbidden tree and were there other "laws" given in the garden BEFORE the ten commandments came later as you stated, as well as other "laws" in Exodus 21 thru 23 you mentioned??? Stop avoiding my questions please!

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Posted : 9 Mar, 2020 08:02 PM

Ban,

Read the book for yourself, the Holy Spirit will reveal what you seek, no man can help you.

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Posted : 10 Mar, 2020 12:17 PM

Matthew 28:18-20: Jesus says, "**ALL AUTHORITY** in heaven and on earth has been given to **ME**. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to **OBEY EVERYTHING I HAVE COMMANDED YOU**. And surely I am with you always!!"



I Corinthians 9:21: I am under **CHRIST'S LAW**!!



Galatians 6:2: Fulfill the **LAW OF CHRIST**!!



Galatians 3:23-25: "Before faith came, we were held prisoners by the {**OT**} law, locked up until faith should be revealed. So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ that we might be justified by faith. Now that faith has come, *WE* ARE NO LONGER UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF THE {**OT**} LAW!!"



*WE* ARE NO LONGER UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF THE LAW!!



Galatians 2:14-16,20,21; : Paul said, When I saw that they were not acting in line with the truth of the gospel, I said to Peter in front of them all, "You are a Jew, yet you live like a Gentile and not like a Jew. How is it, then that you force Gentiles to follow Jewish customs? We who are Jews by birth and not 'Gentile sinners' know that a man is NOT justified by observing the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by observing the law, because by observing the law no one will be justified.!"



Galatians 2:20,21: The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me. I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!"



Galatians 3:10-13: "All who rely on observing the law are under a curse, for it is written "Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law." Clearly no one is justified before God by the law, because, "The righteous will live by faith." The law is not based on faith; on the contrary, "The man who does these things will live by them." Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us!



Galatians 3:23-25: "Before faith came, we were held prisoners by the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ that we might be justified by faith. Now that faith has come, *WE* ARE NO LONGER UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF THE LAW!!"



Hebrews 7:18,19: The former regulation is SET ASIDE because it was weak and useless; for the law made nothing perfect, and a better hope is introduced, by which we draw near to God.!



Hebrews 8:8,9,13: "The time is coming." says the Lord, "when I will make a New Covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah".... By calling this Covenant "NEW", He has made the first one OBSOLETE; and what is OBSOLETE and aging will soon disappear."



Hebrews 8:6: But the ministry Jesus has received is as superior to theirs as the covenant of which He is Mediator is SUPERIOR TO THE OLD ONE, and it is founded on better promises.



Colossians 2:16,17: Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you **EAT** or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. These are a *SHADOW* of the things that were to come, the reality, however, is found in Christ!!!



All of the OT Sabbath laws have been eliminated. Both Jesus and His Father have declared all foods are now clean. All of the OT sacrificial and temple laws have been eliminated. All of the stoning to death laws for breaking the law have been eliminated. All of the laws concerning an eye for an eye and making oaths have been eliminated. Circumcision laws have been eliminated. Loving one another as Jesus loved us has replaced loving one another as you love yourself.

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