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Quiznos View Profile History	When did the people of Isreal appear in Scripture. Posted : 10 Feb, 2020 08:19 AM Before GOD Almighty changed the name of Yaaqob- Jacob to Israel, did the nation of Israel exist. Post Reply
View Profile History	When did the people of Isreal appear in Scripture. Posted : 10 Feb, 2020 12:38 PM @tothmax, I perceive you make a game out of it. Look in Scripture, where is Israel first mentioned? Is it an anachronism or not? Anything can be "spiritualized". Post Reply
Quiznos View Profile History	When did the people of Isreal appear in Scripture. Posted : 10 Feb, 2020 12:51 PM Israel did not exist during the time of Abraham,yet Jacob existed not only in the loins of Abraham ( Abe's seed was passsd onto Isaac, then thru Isaac we have Jacob ) but also in the mind of GOD Almighty from before the creation of all things. GOD Almighty renamed Jaco, Israel, then GOD Almighty had begun to create the nation of Israel. Post Reply
T0TH3M4X View Profile History	When did the people of Isreal appear in Scripture. Posted : 10 Feb, 2020 01:14 PM Chuck, There is no game. "Israel" is first mentioned at Peniel. No one who honors Hebrew tradition would tell you differently. Even in modern tradition, Hebrew people will not eat meat at the sinew (around the hip socket) because of this. It's also noted in Genesis when Israel is established. Gen 32:32 Therefore the children of Israel eat not of the sinew which shrank, which is upon the hollow of the thigh, unto this day: because he touched the hollow of Jacob's thigh in the sinew that shrank. Anything else I can help you with? Post Reply
View Profile History	When did the people of Isreal appear in Scripture. Posted : 10 Feb, 2020 01:23 PM Wow Toth! Blow me away, I have never heard that in all my youth in "church" days of old! Now you are going to make me an atheist go read it to find out? You tricking me into study, right? It makes sense some of it from what I recall about Genesis but I would need to study that to find out. Hmmmmm.. Post Reply
View Profile History	When did the people of Isreal appear in Scripture. Posted : 10 Feb, 2020 01:24 PM @tothmax, Oh gee thanks, your such a big help. If I only had a concordance like you! Israel is named in Deut 32:8 referencing Gen 11. Find that with your concordance. Post Reply

T0TH3M4X View Profile History	When did the people of Isreal appear in Scripture. Posted : 10 Feb, 2020 01:59 PM Chuck, What you're suggesting has to do with the Sons of Noah (post deluge). In fact, this is how chapter 10 begins: Gen 10:1 Now these are the generations of the sons of Noah, Shem, Ham, and Japheth: and unto them were sons born after the flood. The blessing followed the line of Seth. Cain killed Abel, then he was sent to wander and given a mark. He was the recipient of what was lost when Cain killed Abel. Gen 4:25 And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew. The lineage of Cain other suffered violence, including Lamech who killed a man. Gen 4:23 And Lamech said unto his wives, Adah and Zillah, Hear my voice; ye wives of Lamech, hearken unto my speech: for I have slain a man to my wounding, and a young man to my hurt. The blessing always existed, but that's what I stated in my original post. It is just being passed through the line of Seth, which went to Noah, then eventually went down the lineage to Abram. Isaac, to Esau, which passed to Jacob, which led to the fulfillment of that blessing. Post Reply
View Profile History	When did the people of Isreal appear in Scripture. Posted : 10 Feb, 2020 04:36 PM @tothmax, Therefore reversely you also advocate a serpent seed doctrine? Post Reply
View Profile History	When did the people of Isreal appear in Scripture. Posted : 10 Feb, 2020 05:56 PM Matthew 21:43: Jesus says to Israel, "The Kingdom of God will be taken from you and given to a people who will produce FRUIT! There are now 1,300.000.000 one billion 300 million Protestants. Post Reply
T0TH3M4X View Profile History	When did the people of Isreal appear in Scripture. Posted : 10 Feb, 2020 06:00 PM Chuck, Did you see me mention a "serpent seed" doctrine? You're too caught up in nonsense. Let it go man. Post Reply
Teddyhug^ View Profile History	When did the people of Isreal appear in Scripture. Posted : 10 Feb, 2020 07:05 PM Toth writes, "Did you see me mention a "serpent seed" doctrine? You're too caught up in nonsense. Let it go man." Ooooh Toth, Chuck has much more problems than the "serpent seed" thing, he hates the Seth linage as the Sons of G_d in Genesis and the GIANTS issue then confuses him because Chuck wants to believe angels can procreate with human women! LOL! Post Reply