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Posted : 7 Jan, 2020 11:16 AM

I don't get modern "Christians". They put the writings of Paul as 100% equal to the rest of the Bible as the very words of GOD. If they find out a product, music, organization, company or logo has any ties to demons, gods or the illuminati most will immediately stop buying those products, stop listening to that music, and stop patronizing those organizations and companies.



There was a gentleman on this Forum who said he quit drinking Starbucks because of their demon, false god logo. This is what got me thinking. Modern Christianity has some sort of dissociative disorder.

Here is what Paul says about it:

"All things are lawful,” but not all things are helpful. “All things are lawful,” but not all things build up. 24Let no one seek his own good, but the good of his neighbor. 25Eat whatever is sold in the meat market without raising any question on the ground of conscience. 26For “the earth is the Lord’s, and the fullness thereof.” 27If one of the unbelievers invites you to dinner and you are disposed to go, eat whatever is set before you without raising any question on the ground of conscience. 28But if someone says to you, “This has been offered in sacrifice,” then do not eat it, for the sake of the one who informed you, and for the sake of conscience— 29I do not mean your conscience, but his. For why should my liberty be determined by someone else’s conscience? 30If I partake with thankfulness, why am I denounced because of that for which I give thanks?

31So, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God." - 1 Cor 10



I thought these people followed Paul's teachings? Paul says since those gods are nothing, you can drink Starbucks as long as it doesn't make your brother stumble. Why don't Paulineites follow what they preach?



Because maybe there is something deep down, subconsciously going on with modern Christians?

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Posted : 7 Jan, 2020 06:05 PM

Chuckk, I think TOTH offered a pretty sound argument, even prophetic had some verses in there to clearly refuted what you’re saying about meat offered to idols.



But just like you nixed the context of Jesus words concerning Holy Spirit revelation, you’ve managed to nix Paul’s words about meat offered to idols



Chuckk can you name anyone on the forum who claims to be a sect follower of Paul?



I know that you know better Chuckk because some of your posts indicate some occasional clear thinking, but ironically you seem to jettison logic when it contradicts you—at least you’re consistent in that

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Posted : 7 Jan, 2020 07:12 PM

David,

I don't read prophetic's posts. What Biblical authors do you and Prophetic think have the authority to change the Law?

I didn't see anything TOTH posted that trumps the Jerusalem Council in Acts 15 and the Judgment of Jesus in Revelation 2.

Sorry to say, since you posted neither, your claim is empty. Unless of course you've something to add?

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Posted : 7 Jan, 2020 07:24 PM

Chuck,



I really think you would do well to find a pastor or men's group you can study with. I think it would be helpful so that things can be kept in context. Almost every time you post something, it's one verse in the middle of a whole section of scripture that works together in context. For example, the Acts 15 is specifically being addressed to a specific people and it was not stated as law. As he later states in his letter to the Corinthians, the meat has no significance on the idols of the false gods because those "gods" are frauds.



One of the things I admire about Paul is he often spoke with the local traditions and understanding in mind. Like at Mars Hill, he used the idea of the altar with the inscription, "TO THE UNKNOWN GOD", and was able to use it to preach about our God who can be known. He wasn't critical of them or pointing his finger and saying don't make altars. Instead, he was saying he could show them that God.

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Posted : 7 Jan, 2020 07:45 PM

Chuckk says: Okay, I'll bite; where did Jesus say; "Paul’s writing is 100% God’s Word just like all the other scripture."?



Well Chuckk, I guess you got me, Jesus doesn’t say the words of biblical writer is, quote, “100% God’s Word just like all the other scripture."?



Oh wait, except for one that’s waaay better, it says: “...all scripture is God breathed...”



But I’m sure that can be explained away too because it just doesn’t fit the “I really love Paul but he’s a liar, he’s not inspired” fake narrative that’s really anti-Paul.



How does one say I’m not against Paul I just don’t believe him??!!



The homosexuals don’t like Paul because he’s too clear about God’s take on their particular love for that sin. Other people don’t like Paul for a host of other likewise illegitimate reasons but I highly doubt it’s because of food offered to idols. Could be such reasons like, my leader says so therefore it is so. Could be it’s just plain hard to pry away from bad teaching. Or it could be that good o’ homemade zany Eisegesis

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Posted : 7 Jan, 2020 07:50 PM

"Acts 15 is specifically being addressed to a specific people and it was not stated as law"

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TOTH, I think you'd do good to study Scripture instead of relying on Pastors and men's groups to define context and interpret the Bible for you.

Case in point: Acts 15 is absolutely stating law. The Apostles are re-stating Torah Law and making this particular law applicable to Gentile believers.

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Posted : 7 Jan, 2020 07:53 PM

“...all scripture is God breathed...”

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Posted : 7 Jan, 2020 08:11 PM

“...all scripture is God breathed...”

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Context Context Context Context

1) Who said it? - Paul

2) To who was it said? - Timothy

3) When was it said? 40 - 60 AD

4) Which Scriptures? - previous verse: "from childhood you have been acquainted with the sacred writings" (definitely the Torah, likely the Tanakh, and possibly more, in context these words are not inclusive of the New Testament because it didn't yet exist).

Okay now we have more to work than parroted doctrine.

IN CONTEXT, Paul is instructing Timothy a Church leader to use the Sacred Jewish Writings to instruct the Church because they are from GOD.

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Posted : 7 Jan, 2020 08:12 PM

“...all scripture is God breathed...”

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Context Context Context Context

1) Who said it? - Paul

2) To who was it said? - Timothy

3) When was it said? 40 - 60 AD

4) Which Scriptures? - previous verse: "from childhood you have been acquainted with the sacred writings" (definitely the Torah, likely the Tanakh, and possibly more, in context these words are not inclusive of the New Testament because it didn't yet exist).

Okay now we have more to work than parroted doctrine.

IN CONTEXT, Paul is instructing Timothy a Church leader to use the Sacred Jewish Writings to instruct the Church because they are from GOD.

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Posted : 7 Jan, 2020 08:15 PM

Sorry Gents, first it posts half then posts twice lol 🙄

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Posted : 7 Jan, 2020 08:27 PM

Chuck,



Did you miss that he was speaking to Gentiles?



Acts 15:23 And they wrote letters by them after this manner; The apostles and elders and brethren send greeting unto the brethren which are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia:



I guess you don't understand Kosher practices, which is still practiced today. All the blood is to be removed, which is why they are mentioning blood. Also, the strangulation. If I remember correctly, it taints the meat, which is why it is eaten. Gentiles, even today, typically don't follow such laws. In fact, a lot of the food found in modern grocery stores are not Kosher.



Again, in 1 Corinthians he also clarifies that the idols of false gods are nothing. They're not legitimate gods and sacrifices to them are meaningless. It amazes me how you can continually chase your tail over things that are spoken of repeated and in a clear context if you actually read more than one verse.

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