I try to be accurate and share things in context. Just glad we have the opportunity to study together, as I learn a lot from others and what they have to contribute. Like the Bible says:
Prov 27:17 Iron sharpeneth iron; so a man sharpeneth the countenance of his friend.
Forgive me for interrupting you and Teddy congratulating each other. But I fail to see where you addressed Isaiah 9:6 effectively. Where was it you refuted the truth I shared on this verse other than bringing up the ambiguity of tense, which in the literal context is not ambiguous. It is only ambiguous IF you want to turn it into a prophecy. (which I don't have a problem with, just as long as we are all being honest).
I only quote the Words of God which those who are not born from above will never understand. Your exegesis of God's sacred Word is completely ridiculous and Satanic. And all of Satan's teachers have committed an **UNPARDONABLE SIN**!!
Isaiah 9:6--7: For unto us a **CHILD** is born, to us a **SON** is given, and the government will be on His shoulders. And He will be called Wonderful Counselor ,**MIGHTY GOD**! and **PRINCE OF PEACE**. Of the greatness of His government **THERE WILL BE NO END**. He will reign on David's throne and over His Kingdom, establishing and upholding it with justice and righteousness **FROM THAT TIME ON AND ****FOREVER****.
John 1:1-3,18: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with Go, and the **WORD WAS GOD**. He was with God in the beginning. Through Him all things were made; without Him nothing was made that as been made...No one has ever seen God, but the One and only Son, who is **HIMSELF GOD** and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made Him known!
John 20:27-29: Jesus said to the doubting Thomas, "Put your finger here in My hands. Reach out your hand and put it into My side. Stop doubting and believe!" Thomas said to Him, My Lord and **MY GOD**!" Then Jesus told
him, Because you have seen Me, you have believed, blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed!" {And so since Chuckles does not believe he is not blessed by Jesus!!}
Hebrews 1:6,8: When God brings His firstborn into the world He says, "Let all God's angels **WORSHIP HIM**.... About the Son He says, "Your throne, **O GOD**, will last for ever and ever, a scepter of justice will be the scepter of **YOUR KINGDOM**!"
Titus 2:13,14: We wait for the **BLESSED HOPE**--the glorious appearing of our **GREAT GOD AND SAVIOR**, Jesus Christ, who gave Himself for us to redeem us from all wickedness and to purify a people that are **HIS VERY OWN**, eager to do what is good!!
2 Peter 3:15,16: Bear in mind that our Lord's patience means salvation, just as our **DEAR BROTHER PAUL ALSO WROTE WITH THE WISDOM THAT GOD GAVE HIM**! He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand {For the Lost}. which IGNORANT AND UNSTABLE PEOPLE DISTORT, {Like Chuckles} as they do other Scriptures to **THEIR OWN DESTRUCTION**!{Which would be eternal torment in hell}
John 12:48: Jesus says, "There is a Judge for the one {Like Chuckles} who does not accept My words, the very words I have spoken will condemn them at the Last Day!"
So Satan's followers all deceptively say Jesus is lord but will never admit that Jesus is God like Chuckles
However not surprised that Chuckk denies the virgin birth..
Chuckk is also into new age teachings.
It looks as if Chuckk has a mystery religion in his pockets..
Perhaps he would be accepted at the Vatican revising the modern bibles since they also devise clever ways to deny the diety of Christ !
From the website JEWS FOR JESUS:
"Was Isaiah speaking of a human king of his time, as some believe? The kings of Israel never brought about the everlasting rule and time of justice and righteousness that Isaiah described. Some individual kings brought in temporary peace, some displayed wisdom, and some displayed godly attributes. Many did not. "
"We believe that Jesus the Messiah was eternally pre-existent and is co-equal with God the Father; that He took on Himself the nature of man through the virgin birth so that He possesses both divine and human natures.
We believe in His sinless life and perfect obedience to the Law; in His atoning death, burial, bodily resurrection, ascension into heaven, high-priestly intercession and His personal return in power and glory".
KJVonly: Great post. When I was a missionary is Israel I met many Jews for Jesus who all believed that Jesus is our Great God and Savior whose sacrifice is the only thing that saves us from our many sins and that believe all of Paul's Epistles are the inspired Words of God. However there are many Messianic Jews like Chuckles, Sadlup and ADAM7777 that believe and teach exactly what Satan wants them to teach.
2 Peter 3:15,16: Bear in mind that our Lord's patience means salvation, just as our **DEAR BROTHER PAUL ALSO WROTE WITH THE WISDOM THAT GOD GAVE HIM**! He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand {For the Lost}. which IGNORANT AND UNSTABLE PEOPLE DISTORT, {Like Chuckles} as they do other Scriptures to **THEIR OWN DESTRUCTION**!{Which would be eternal torment in hell}
John 12:48: Jesus says, "There is a Judge for the one {Like Chuckles} who does not accept My words, the very words I have spoken will condemn them at the Last Day!"
Your post(s) really saddens me. It breaks my heart modern Christians feel it's okay to make up lies about others and engage in character assassination to defend their personal doctrines.
Need proof?
1) Where did I deny a virgin birth? I just told you what the Hebrew really says, pointing out it doesn't make a good Peshat proof Text.
2) Where did I put forth New Age doctrine incompatible with Scripture?
(Please provide proof or an retraction for the above accusations)
Btw, IF you read the Jews for Jesus article carefully, you'll notice they admit there is another interpretation. (The same one I presented). IF one wants to apply a Drash or Sod meaning, then your interpretation may be acceptable.
But the problem with the Jews for Jesus response is:
"The kings of Israel never brought about the everlasting rule and time of justice and righteousness that Isaiah described."
A Orthodox Jew would laugh and say; "neither did Jesus".
(one must again use Sod to interpret "everlasting peace" for it to currently be applicable to Jesus)
Forgive me if I am wrong but it seems you touched on Y'shua the Messiah being Osirus the Egyptian god once .
Osiris was the >>>>god of the dead<<<<< and ruler of the underworld.
Osiris was the brother/husband of Isis, and the brother of Nepthys and Seth. He was also the father of Horus. As well as being a god of the dead, Osiris was a god of resurrection and fertility.
Mark 12:27
King James Bible
He is not the God of the dead, but the >>>God of the living<<<<: ye therefore do greatly err.
