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JESUS WAS NO PAGAN PACIFIST NOR DID HE TEACH FALSE PACIFISM
Posted : 23 Nov, 2019 05:44 AM

Interesting article reciting false teachings on pacifism

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JESUS WAS NO PAGAN PACIFIST NOR DID HE TEACH FALSE PACIFISM
Posted : 25 Nov, 2019 05:03 PM

As anyone can guess, Richard is obsessed with getting stuff in heaven and with telling half-truths about me and with putting me in league with Satan.



For insight into Richard’s “MAIN MOTIVATION” anticipating his “countless heavenly rewards” theory, see Richard the “prophetic’s” quote as follows:



QUOTH THE “Prophetic” 7744 from my recent thread on “What Does the Bible Say About Rewards in Heaven”



**LITTLEST DAVID** and **SATAN** deny that God's saints can receive countless **ETERNAL HEAVENLY REWARDS** for faithful and loving service and teach that all saints will receive the **EXACT SAME EWARD**??? >>>Which takes away the **main motive** for faithful and loving services!!<<<



END the prophetic Richard QUOTE





First of all, I have never said all Christians will receive the “ **EXACT SAME EWARD**???, (Richard must be trying to say “reward”)



But worse than misrepresenting me, Richard has finally admitted his “MAIN MOTIVE” for serving Jesus!!! YES—ITS all about what Richard’s gonna get out of it!!!



**THESE ARE RICHARD’S OWN WORDS** not mine



The false prophetic Richard finally admits his ****MAIN MOTIVATION**** for his service to Jesus !!! It’s all about what Richard the Pinocchio prophetic 7744 will get out of it !!! Should anyone be surprised at Richard’s candid admission, (perhaps his inadvertent admission)



QUESTION:

How many readers would want someone to marry you, serve you, help you or “love” you for what they will get out it in the end ???



OR OR OR would you want someone to marry you or serve you BECAUSE OF their GENUINELY LOVE FOR YOU AND their genuine love for WHO YOU ARE ????!!!!



If prophetic is serving God merely for rewards sake as his “main motive” (Richards words) then he obviously doesn’t know anything about loving service to God. But Richard finally admits his “main motivation” at last. Pretty clear, from Richard’s own admission, he serves God for what he (Richard) will get out of it





But contrast compare Richards obsession with gifts with the true saints who will cast their crowns at Jesus’ feet in heaven!!!??? WHY will they case their crowns at Jesus feet? It’s because these Saints are motivated by their God given love for Jesus and not by the gifts he gives !!!



Our hearts should be full of love for Jesus. Love for Jesus SHOULD BE our MAIN MOTIVE for serving him. But we do not serve Jesus simply to get his “prizes” and his “rewards”



Richard’s obsession with “heavenly rewards” being the “MAIN MOTIVE” for his service to God reminds me of certain earthy people’s obsession with earthly things. Their focus is not on God but on what he has created!



See Romans 1:25



“They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator--who is forever praised. Amen.”

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JESUS WAS NO PAGAN PACIFIST NOR DID HE TEACH FALSE PACIFISM
Posted : 25 Nov, 2019 06:42 PM

Littlest David **LIES**:



"In summary, all true believers will receive the great reward of seeing God face to face, and this should motivate all of our actions. The NT **NOWHERE CLEARLY AND EXPLICITLY TEACHES VARYING DEGREES OF REWARD!!???



Littlest David also said, "I don’t think **ANY PASSAGES** explicitly teach this idea"???



Littlest David also said, " Anyone can look at my post and see I believe in heavenly reward. I just don’t know more than the Bible reveals—like “prophetic” pretends he knows. The Bible doesn’t reveal all the details" {ACTUALLY RICHARD JUST QUOTED GOD'S WORD ABOUT THE MANY REWARDS** for faithful and loving service!???



Littlest David also said, "Richard's “heavenly rewards” being the “MAIN MOTIVE” for his service reminds me of other people’s obsession with earthly things,"??? {ACTUALLY **FAITH IN ETERNAL HEAVENLY REWARDS IS THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF THE PROSPERITY GOSPEL WHICH SAYS :"IT IS BETTER TO HAVE OUR PIE NOW IN EARTHLY REWARDS RATHER THAN ***FAITH** IN PIE IN THE SKY BY AND BY!!}



Hebrews 11:1,6: Now **FAITH** is confidence in what we hope for and assurance about **WE DO NOT SEE**... And without **FAITH** it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to Him **MUST BELIEVE** that He exists and that **HE REWARDS THOSE WHO EARNESTLY SEEK HIM**!!



In the first part of my Bible study I showed that salvation and eternal life are amazing gifts which we do not deserve and are very thankful for which is also the other main motive for faithful and loving service. But to deny God's Word which promises many **ETERNAL HEAVENLY REWARDS ** for faithful and loving service is exactly what littlest David and Satan wants us to believe in order to remove one of God's main motives and promises of **FAITH** in things not seen.



**SALVATION IS 100% FREE WHILE ETERNAL HEAVENLY REWARDS ARE 100% EARNED**!!



**SALVATION IS 100% FREE**



Titus 3:3,4: At one time we too were foolish, disobedient, deceived and enslaved by all kinds of passions and pleasures. We lived in malice and envy, being hated and hating one another. But when the kindness and **LOVE** of God our Savior appeared , He saved us, **NOT BECAUSE OF RIGHTEOUS THINGS WE HAD DONE**, but because of **HIS MERCY**!!



John 1:12,13: To all who received Him, to those who believed in His name, he gave the right to become children of God--children born not of natural descent, **NOR OF A HUMAN DECISION** or a husband's will but, **BORN OF GOD**!!



John 6:37,39,44,65: Jesus says, "**ALL** that the Father gives Me **WILL** come to Me, and whoever comes to Me I will **NEVER** drive away... And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that I shall **LOSE NONE** of all that He has given Me, but raise them up at the Last Day.... No one can come to Me **UNLESS** the Father who sent Me **DRAWS HIM**, and I will raise him up at the Last Day!!... No one can come to Me **UNLESS** the Father has **ENABLED THEM**!!"



Ephesians 2:8,9: For it is by **GRACE** you have been saved, through **FAITH**—and this **NOT FROM YOURSELVES**, it is the **GIFT OF GOD**—not by works. So that no one can boast. For we are **GOD'S WORKMANSHIP**, created in Christ Jesus to do **GOOD WORKS**, which God prepared in advance for us to do!



Romans 12:3: For by the **GRACE GIVEN ME** I say to every one of you. Do not think of yourself more highly than you ought, but rather think of yourselves with sober judgment, in accordance with the **FAITH GOD HAS DISTRIBUTED TO EACH OF YOU**... We have different gifts, according to the **GRACE GIVEN TO EACH OF US**!!



Romans 9:15,16,18: God says, "I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion." It does not, therefore, depend on human desire or effort, but on God's mercy...Therefore God has mercy on whom He wants to have mercy, and He hardens whom He wants to harden. {But God's saints still preach God's Word to everyone}



John 15:16: Jesus says, You did not choose Me, but I **CHOSE YOU**and appointed you so that you might bear **FRUIT**--**FRUIT** that will last!!



Matthew 22:14: Jesus says, "MANY ARE INVITED**, but few are **CHOSEN**!"



Mar 13:20: Jesus says, "If the Lord had not cut short those days, no on would survive, but for the sake of the **ELECT**, whom He has **CHOSEN, He has shortened them!"

{The Lord has shortened the Great Tribulation from 3 1/2 years or 1278 days to 1260 days}



John 13:18: Jesus says, "I am not referring to all of you, I know those I have **CHOSEN**!



Ephesians 1:4-8; 11,12: In love He **PREDESTINED** us for adoption to sonship through Jesus Christ, in accordance with His pleasure and will--to the praise of His glorious grace, which He has freely given us in the One He loves, In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins, in accordance with the riches of God's grace that He lavished on us with all wisdom and understanding... In Him we were also **CHOSEN**, having been **PREDESTINED** in accordance to the plan of Him who works out everything in conformity to the purpose of His will, in order that we, who were the first to put our hope in Christ, might be to the **PRAISE OF HIS GLORY**!!



I Thessalonians 1:4: For we know, brothers loved by God, that He has **CHOSEN YOU**, because our Gospel came to you not simply with words but also with power, with the Holy Spirit and deep conviction!



I Peter 2:9: But you are a **CHOSEN PEOPLE**, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God's special possession, that you might declare the praise of Him who **CALLED YOU** out of darkness into His wonderful light!!



Revelation 17:14: They will make war against the **LAMB** but the **LAMB** will overcome them because He is **LORD** of lords and **KING** of kings and with Him will be His **CALLED** **CHOSEN** and **FAITHFUL** followers!! {Riding on white horses right after the Marriage Feast of the **LAMB** as per Revelation 19:7-20!}



Romans 6:23: The wages of sin is death, but the **GIFT OF GOD** is **ETERNAL LIFE**!



God's Word clearly teaches that faith, salvation, the Holy Spirit and eternal life are all 100 percent **FREE GIFTS OF GOD** and that the two main incentives for doing good works is being thankful to God for these amazing **FREE GIFTS** and to **EARN HEAVENLY ETERNAL REWARDS** which God has promised His chosen saints for faithful and loving service. Whereas those who believe in **SINLESS PERFECTION** believe that we have to earn our salvation and eternal life by doing **GOOD WORKS** and being **SINLESS** and that the only eternal reward is gaining eternal life by what we do; and if we commit even one small sin after we are saved we will loose our salvation and eternal life. And so man and not God becomes the Author and Finisher of our salvation.



**BUT WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY**??



**AND SO SALVATION IS 100 PERCENT **FREE** but **ETERNAL REWARDS** are 100 percent **EARNED**!!



Ephesians 6:8: Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not men, because you know that the Lord will **REWARD** everyone for what ever good he does!



Revelation 22:12 Jesus says, “Behold I am coming soon! My **REWARD** is with Me, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done!”



Matthew 16:27: Jesus says, “The Son of Man is going to come in His Father's glory with His angels and **THEN** He will **REWARD** each person according to what he has done!”



Luke 11:33,34: Jesus says, "Sell your possessions and give to the poor. Provide purses for yourselves that will not wear out, a **TREASURE** IN HEAVEN** that will never fail, where no thief comes near and no moth destroys. For where your **TREASURE** is, there your **HEART** will be also!"



Luke 14:13,14: Jesus says, "When you give a banquet, invite the poor, the crippled, the lame, the blind, and you will be **BLESSED**. Although they cannot repay you you will be **REPAID AT THE RESURRECTION** of the righteous!"



2 Corinthians 5:9,10: We make it our goal to please Him... for we must all appear before the Judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive what is due him for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad.



1 Corinthians 3:13-15: His work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each man's work. If what he has built survives, he will receive his **REWARD**. If it is burned up he will suffer loss; he himself will be saved, but only as one escaping through the flames.



How to Win Heavenly CROWNS:



I Corinthians 9:24-27: Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one gets the prize? Run in such a way as to get the prize. Everyone who competes in the games goes in to strict training. They do it to get a **CROWN** that will not last; but we do it to get a **CROWN THAT WILL LAST FOREVER**! Therefore I do not run like a man running aimlessly; I do not fight like a man beating the air. No, I beat my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified for the prize!



2 John 1:8: Watch out that you do not lose what you have worked for, but that you may be **REWARDED** fully!.



Revelation 3:11: Jesus says, “I am coming soon. Hold on to what you have, so that no one will take your **CROWN**!”



2 Timothy 4:7,8: I have fought the good fight, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith. Now there is in store for me the **CROWN** of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge, will award to me **ON THAT DAY**—and not only to me, but also to all who have longed for His appearing!



The **CROWN** of Life for those who persevere under trials and persecution:



James 1:12: Blessed is the man who perseveres under trial, because when he has stood the test, he will receive the **CROWN OF LIFE** that God has promised to those who love Him!



Revelation 2:10 Jesus says, “Do not be afraid of what you are about to suffer... Be faithful, even to the point of death, and I will give you the **CROWN OF LIFE**!”



Matthew 5:11,12: Jesus says, “Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me. Rejoice and be glad, because great is your **REWARD IN HEAVEN**!”



Luke6:22,23: Jesus says, "Blessed are you when people hate you, when they reject your name as evil, because of the Son of Man. Rejoice in that day and **JUMP FOR JOY**, because great is your **REWARD IN HEAVEN**!"



! Daniel 12:3: Those who impart wisdom will shine like the brightness of the heavens, and those who lead many to righteousness like the stars for ever and ever!!



Matthew 19:29: Jesus says, "Everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or wife or children **FOR MY SAKE** will receive a **HUNDRED TIMES AS MUCH** and will inherit eternal life!!"

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JESUS WAS NO PAGAN PACIFIST NOR DID HE TEACH FALSE PACIFISM
Posted : 25 Nov, 2019 09:04 PM

David,



What I mean by "root" is whatever the issue is stemming from. Oftentimes when there is a problem people look at symptoms and try to treat that, but if you don't deal with the root, the symptoms just keep reappearing.



So for example, say someone is dishonest. Instead of dealing with the subject of "why they are being dishonest", it would be better to find out what is motivating that behavior. Maybe it's stress at home or finances. Once to chop that down and remove it, it would be easier to eliminate their dishonesty, since there is nothing that there to reinforce it, even if it's plucked away.



If I wasn't clear enough here either, feel free to let me know or ask questions and I can elaborate/clarify. God bless.

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Posted : 26 Nov, 2019 07:03 AM

Ephesians 6:8: Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not men, because you know that the Lord will **REWARD** everyone for what ever good he does!



I Peter 1:23-25: You have been **BORN AGAIN THROUGH THE LIVING AND ENDURING **WORD OF GOD**!! All men are like grass, and all their glory is like the flowers of the field, the grass withers and the flowers fall, but the **WORD OF THE LORD STANDS FOREVER**. And this is the **WORD** that was preached to you.

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Posted : 26 Nov, 2019 07:12 AM

Revelation 22:12: Jesus says, “Behold I am coming soon! My **REWARD** is with Me, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done!”



Matthew 24:35: Jesus says, Heaven and earth will pass away, but **MY WORDS WILL NEVER PASS AWAY**!"

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Posted : 26 Nov, 2019 07:13 AM

Matthew 16:27: Jesus says, “The Son of Man is going to come in His Father's glory with His angels and **THEN** He will **REWARD** each person according to what he has done!”



Matthew 4:4: Jesus says, "Man does not live on bread alone, but on **EVERY WORD FROM THE MOUTH OF GOD**!"

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Posted : 26 Nov, 2019 07:15 AM

Luke 11:33,34: Jesus says, "Sell your possessions and give to the poor. Provide purses for yourselves that will not wear out, a **TREASURE** IN HEAVEN** that will never fail, where no thief comes near and no moth destroys. For where your **TREASURE** is, there your **HEART** will be also!"



John 2:3-5: We know we have come to know Him {Jesus} if we obey His commands. The man who says, "I know Him," but does not do what He commands is a liar and the truth is not in him. But if anyone **OBEYS HIS WORD**, God's love is truly made complete in him!

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Posted : 26 Nov, 2019 07:16 AM

Luke 14:13,14: Jesus says, "When you give a banquet, invite the poor, the crippled, the lame, the blind, and you will be **BLESSED**. Although they cannot repay you you will be **REPAID AT THE RESURRECTION** of the righteous!"



John 17:17: Jesus prays to His Father, "Sanctify them by the Truth, **YOUR WORD IS TRUTH**!"

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Posted : 26 Nov, 2019 07:17 AM

2 Corinthians 5:9,10: We make it our goal to please Him... for we must all appear before the Judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive **WHAT IS DUE HIM** for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad.



Luke 8:15: Jesus says, "But the seed on good soil stands for those with a noble and good heart, who hear the **WORD**, retain it, and by perseverance produce a crop."

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Posted : 26 Nov, 2019 07:18 AM

1 Corinthians 3:13-15: His work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each man's work. If what he has built survives, he will receive his **REWARD**. If it is burned up he will suffer loss; he himself will be saved, but only as one escaping through the flames.



Acts 20:32: Paul says, "Now I commit you to God and to the **WORD OF HIS GRACE**, which can build you up and give you an inheritance among all those who are sanctified!"

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