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Posted : 24 Aug, 2019 07:39 AM

The dietary laws are not about heaven or hell or being right with GOD, but rather good health. A short perusal of clean and unclean animals quickly reveals most all unclean animals are scavenger animals eating the dead rotting corpses of other animals. Even shrimp (known as the filters of the sea) clean the toxins out of the water and hold it in their bodies. A closer look at Scripture reveals Jesus never changes the dietary laws. And Paul is telling Gentiles who were never under the Law; 'don't worry about it'. It's really not as complicated as some want to make it. GOD loves us and shares a healthy diet for the bodies HE created.

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Posted : 27 Aug, 2019 05:40 AM

KJVonly: I understand that Acts 11 has a two fold message but do not forget all the other Scripture in the NT making all foods clean!!



Colossians 2:16,17: Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you **EAT** or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a **SABBATH DAY**. These are a *SHADOW* of the things that were to come, the reality, however, is found in Christ!!!



Mark 7:18-23: Jesus says, "Don't you see that nothing that enters a man from the outside can make him unclean? For it doesn't go into his heart but into his stomach, and then out of his body!" By saying this Jesus declared **ALL FOODS CLEAN**!! He went on "What comes out of a man is what makes him unclean. For from within , out of men's hearts, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. All these evils come from inside and make a man unclean!"



I Timothy 4:1-5: The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. Such teachings come through **HYPOCRITICAL LIARS**, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron. They forbid people to marry and order them **TO ABSTAIN FROM CERTAIN FOODS**, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. For everything God created is good, and **NOTHING IS TO BE REJECTED** if it is received with thanksgiving, because it is consecrated by the word of God and prayer!!



I Corinthians 10:25: Eat **ANYTHING** sold in the meat market without raising questions of conscience, for, "The earth is the Lord's, and everything in it!"



Lobster Tail, Shrimp and Ham are now yum yum yummy and are so good for your tummy!!



Actually TNT you have apparently forgotten that the forbidding to eat certain animals birds and fish was strictly in the OT Covenant for Jews. According to Noah's Covenant and Adam's Covenant God allowed people to eat everything with the breath of life in it!!!!!



God's First Covenant with Adam:



Genesis 1:29,30: Then God said, "give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it They will be yours for food. And to **ALL THE BEASTS OF THE EARTH** and **ALL** the birds of the air and **ALL** the creatures that move on the ground--**EVERYTHING** that has the breath of life in it for food!"



God's Second Covenant with Noah:



Genesis 9:1-3: Then God blessed Noah and his sons, saying to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the earth. The fear and dread of you will fall upon all the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air, upon every creature that moves along the ground, and upon all the fish of the sea, they are given to your hands. **EVERYTHING** that lives and moves will be **FOOD FOR YOU**!!



Galatians 3:23-25: "Before faith came, we were held prisoners by the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ that we might be justified by faith. Now that faith has come, *WE* ARE NO LONGER UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF THE LAW!!" {Zech disagrees with these inspired words of God!! since he believe we are still under the supervision of OT Law!}



I Corinthians 9:20,21: Paul said, "To the Jews I became like a Jew, to win the Jews. To those under the law I became like one under the law though **I MYSELF AM NOT UNDER THE LAW**, so as to win those under the law. To those not having the law I became like one not having the law though I am not free from God's law but **AM UNDER CHRIST'S LAW!!"

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Posted : 27 Aug, 2019 08:19 PM

Richard's (P7744) blatant removal of words in the Bible!



Quote of Parrot7744 - NIV Genesis 1:29,30: Then God said, "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it They will be yours for food. And to **ALL THE BEASTS OF THE EARTH** and **ALL** the birds of the air and **ALL** the creatures that move on the ground--**EVERYTHING** that has the breath of life in it for food!"



There is a **SERIOUS** error in Richard's (P7744) blatant misinterpretation of the real meaning of Scripture he posts! He leaves **OUT** part of verse 30 above in his very own coveted NIV!!! Friends this is proof positive Richard leaves out the true meaning and context of what Moses wrote! Read below



NIV **ACTUALLY** says - 29. "Then God said, "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. **THEY WILL BE YOURS FOR FOOD.**"

**30.** "And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds in the sky and all the creatures that move along the ground—everything that has the breath of life in it—**I GIVE EVERY GREEN PLANT FOR FOOD.** And it was so."



Genesis 1:29,30 (KJV)



29. "And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; **TO YOU IT SHALL BE FOR MEAT.**"to you it shall be for meat.

30. "And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, **I HAVE GIVEN EVERY GREEN HERB FOR MEAT:** and it was so."



Friends! Richard's (P7744) is NOW guilty of taking away words from the Bible and you can see two translations agree with each other above! Both the KJV andNIV agree and if you go online you will see all the others that agree that both green plants for food were originally made for mankind and animals to eat. Both vegetarions! It was not until living on the ark and after leaving the ark was mankind given permission to eat dead CLEAN animals.



You see above by Richard (P7744) leaving out this part of verses 30 "**I HAVE GIVEN EVERY GREEN HERB FOR MEAT:**" changes the whole meaning because without this part Richard wants us to believe all creatures that move, **EVERYTHING** that breaths, that has life in it, is for food!!! Did you catch what he did, he changed the meaning from animals only eat green plants to now we can eat **EVERYTHING** that moves for food!



Richard's (P7744) writes - 30. **ALL** the creatures that move on the ground--**EVERYTHING** that has the breath of life in it for food!"



NIV **ACTUAL** bible verse 30. "all the creatures that move along the ground—everything that has the breath of life in it—**I GIVE EVERY GREEN PLANT FOR FOOD.** And it was so."



Wow! He even leaves off "And it was so." because what Richard did is NOT SO in truth!!! Richard (P7744) is now guilty of removing parts of the Bible, and its TRUE meaning and correct doctrine. He has forfeited his eternal life to do so, has his name removed from the book of life!



Read what the Bible says below!



Revelation 22:19 (KJV) 19. "And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book."



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Posted : 27 Aug, 2019 09:09 PM

Yes, "And it was so" is very important as it established his dietary boundaries at that time.

Richard is always quoting verses reminding us to not add or take away but that is what he is guilty of!

Richard you need to repent of this serious offense!

You redefine God!

That is what satan did. He questioned God's Word and Eve was deceived. That is what you are doing here. Deceiving!

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Posted : 27 Aug, 2019 09:45 PM

KJVonly and Teddyhugger: You both disagree with Mark 7:18-23 where **JESUS MADE ALL FOODS CLEAN** and Jesus commanded us to make disciples of all nations teaching them to **OBEY EVERYTHING I HAVE COMMANDED** in Matthew 28:18-20!! And so you both disagree with these commands of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ. No matter which translation you use Genesis 1:30 absolutely states that all the birds, animals, fish and green plants are all food for you.



Colossians 2:16,17: Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you **EAT** or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a **SABBATH DAY**. These are a *SHADOW* of the things that were to come, the reality, however, is found in Christ!!!



Mark 7:18-23: Jesus says, "Don't you see that nothing that enters a man from the outside can make him unclean? For it doesn't go into his heart but into his stomach, and then out of his body!" By saying this Jesus declared **ALL FOODS CLEAN**!! He went on "What comes out of a man is what makes him unclean. For from within , out of men's hearts, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. All these evils come from inside and make a man unclean!"



I Timothy 4:1-5: The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. Such teachings come through **HYPOCRITICAL LIARS**, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron. They forbid people to marry and order them **TO ABSTAIN FROM CERTAIN FOODS**, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. For everything God created is good, and **NOTHING IS TO BE REJECTED** if it is received with thanksgiving, because it is consecrated by the word of God and prayer!!



I Corinthians 10:25: Eat **ANYTHING** sold in the meat market without raising questions of conscience, for, "The earth is the Lord's, and everything in it!"



Lobster Tail, Shrimp and Ham are now yum yum yummy and are so good for your tummy!!







Actually KJVonly you have apparently forgotten that the forbidding to eat certain animals birds and fish was strictly in the OT Covenant for Jews. According to Noah's Covenant and Adam's Covenant God allowed people to eat everything with the breath of life in it!!!!!







God's First Covenant with Adam:







Genesis 1:29,30: Then God said, "give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it They will be yours for food. And to **ALL THE BEASTS OF THE EARTH** and **ALL** the birds of the air and **ALL** the creatures that move on the ground--**EVERYTHING** that has the breath of life in it and I give every green plant for food!"







God's Second Covenant with Noah:







Genesis 9:1-3: Then God blessed Noah and his sons, saying to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the earth. The fear and dread of you will fall upon all the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air, upon every creature that moves along the ground, and upon all the fish of the sea, they are given to your hands. **EVERYTHING** that lives and moves will be **FOOD FOR YOU**!!







Galatians 3:23-25: "Before faith came, we were held prisoners by the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ that we might be justified by faith. Now that faith has come, *WE* ARE NO LONGER UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF THE LAW!!" {Zech disagrees with these inspired words of God!! since he believe we are still under the supervision of OT Law!}







I Corinthians 9:20,21: Paul said, "To the Jews I became like a Jew, to win the Jews. To those under the law I became like one under the law though **I MYSELF AM NOT UNDER THE LAW**, so as to win those under the law. To those not having the law I became like one not having the law though I am not free from God's law but **AM UNDER CHRIST'S LAW!!"

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Posted : 28 Aug, 2019 06:15 AM

Richard's (P7744) does it AGAIN, takes words from the Bible!!!???



Quote - "No matter which translation you use Genesis 1:30 absolutely states that all the birds, animals, fish and green plants are all food for you." end quote.



We are just talking about Gen 1:30 for now and will get to the other verses next. Lets try this AGAIN! Read what the animals eat to that of what humans eat! Read!



NIV verse 30 reads - "all the creatures that move along the ground—everything that has the breath of life in it—**I GIVE EVERY GREEN PLANT FOR FOOD.** And it was so."



The verse is clear! In the beginning of CREATION, all CREATURES that moved, "everything that has the breath of life in it" eats only GREEN PLANTS for their food Richard! Can you read????



Look at the same context for humans in verse 29. NIV "Then God said, I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. **THEY WILL BE YOURS FOR FOOD.**"



This verse is clear also! In the beginning of CREATION, all HUMANS that lived, ate seed bearing plants, every tree and the fruit of a tree with seed in it. only GREEN PLANTS AND SEEDS for FOOD were ate by mankind!



This was all BEFORE the flood! Pay attention!



Richard its obvious the Bible is ONLY talking about PLANT FOOD for creatures and humans to eat. There was ONLY vegetarians then! No animals were ate by humans nor did animals eat other animals then! Wow! Have you lost your ability to read and reason???



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Posted : 28 Aug, 2019 06:40 AM

KJVonly and Teddyhugger: You both disagree with Mark 7:18-23 where **JESUS MADE ALL FOODS CLEAN** and Jesus commanded us to make disciples of all nations teaching them to **OBEY EVERYTHING I HAVE COMMDED** in Matthew 28:18-20!! And so you both disagree with these commands of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ. No matter which translation you use Genesis 1:30 absolutely states that all the birds, animals, fish and green plants are all food for you.



Teddyhugger is famous for his **FLAT EARTH** beliefs which is also the main belief for the Society for the **BRAIN DEAD**. Teddy hugger is also famous for never having met a Scripture that he could interpret correctly; now claims that in the fist 1600 years after Adam everyone was a vegetarian even though God rejected Cain's vegetarian offering and accepted Abel's offering of **FAT PORTIONS FROM SOME OF THE FIRSTBORN FROM HIS FLOCK** as per Genesis 4:1-5!!



Colossians 2:16,17: Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you **EAT** or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a **SABBATH DAY**. These are a *SHADOW* of the things that were to come, the reality, however, is found in Christ!!!



Mark 7:18-23: Jesus says, "Don't you see that nothing that enters a man from the outside can make him unclean? For it doesn't go into his heart but into his stomach, and then out of his body!" By saying this Jesus declared **ALL FOODS CLEAN**!! He went on "What comes out of a man is what makes him unclean. For from within , out of men's hearts, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. All these evils come from inside and make a man unclean!"



I Timothy 4:1-5: The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. Such teachings come through **HYPOCRITICAL LIARS**, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron. They forbid people to marry and order them **TO ABSTAIN FROM CERTAIN FOODS**, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. For everything God created is good, and **NOTHING IS TO BE REJECTED** if it is received with thanksgiving, because it is consecrated by the word of God and prayer!!



I Corinthians 10:25: Eat **ANYTHING** sold in the meat market without raising questions of conscience, for, "The earth is the Lord's, and everything in it!"



Lobster Tail, Shrimp and Ham are now yum yum yummy and are so good for your tummy!!



Actually KJVonly you have apparently forgotten that the forbidding to eat certain animals birds and fish was strictly in the OT Covenant for Jews. According to Noah's Covenant and Adam's Covenant God allowed people to eat everything with the breath of life in it!!!!!



God's First Covenant with Adam:



Genesis 1:29,30: Then God said, "give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it They will be yours for food. And to **ALL THE BEASTS OF THE EARTH** and **ALL** the birds of the air and **ALL** the creatures that move on the ground--**EVERYTHING** that has the breath of life in it and I give every green plant for food!"



God's Second Covenant with Noah:



Genesis 9:1-3: Then God blessed Noah and his sons, saying to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the earth. The fear and dread of you will fall upon all the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air, upon every creature that moves along the ground, and upon all the fish of the sea, they are given to your hands. **EVERYTHING** that lives and moves will be **FOOD FOR YOU**!!



Galatians 3:23-25: "Before faith came, we were held prisoners by the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ that we might be justified by faith. Now that faith has come, *WE* ARE NO LONGER UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF THE LAW!!" {Zech disagrees with these inspired words of God!! since he believe we are still under the supervision of OT Law!}



I Corinthians 9:20,21: Paul said, "To the Jews I became like a Jew, to win the Jews. To those under the law I became like one under the law though **I MYSELF AM NOT UNDER THE LAW**, so as to win those under the law. To those not having the law I became like one not having the law though I am not free from God's law but **AM UNDER CHRIST'S LAW!!"

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