Are we to keep the Ten Commandments today? It is also called the Royal Law, the Law of Liberty, Law of Christ in the NT.
If we are called to be holy like Christ and the ten commandments reveal his character, then shouldn't we apply them? Especially the first one that starts out , Remember the Sabbath day and keep it holy.
Exodus 20 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: 10 but the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: 11 for in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
So by nature as some say, through love, keep his commandments , then how are we showing our love for him by letting him do the love for us when he died on the cross keeping all ten for us. ? Was that the law nailed to the cross or the ordinances? Love is an action verb and Jesus says we are to lay down our lives for each other . Does the ten commandments which are love commandments valid today? Jesus says a new commandment I give to you, that you love each other like I have loved you. 1 John 3:16 (perfect parallel to the famous other verse of John 3:16) Hereby we perceive the love of God , because he laid down his life for us and we ought to lay down our lives for the brothers.
John 3:16 King James Version (KJV)
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
John 13:34-35 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. 35 By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.
Adam and Eve kept the Sabbath, Abraham, the Israelites, Peter, Paul, and it was kept in 70 A.D when the temple was destroyed and some say beyond until it got changed to sunday to avoid persecution for Judaism.
Zech: apparently you forgot to read the second half of Mark:7:18-23 below and all the rest of the New Covenant verses declaring all foods are now clean since you really only believe in the Old Testament.
**JESUS DECLARED THAT **ALL FOODS ARE NOW CLEAN** IN THE NEW COVENANT!!
Colossians 2:16,17: Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you **EAT** or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a **SABBATH DAY**. These are a *SHADOW* of the things that were to come, the reality, however, is found in Christ!!!
Mark 7:18-23: Jesus says, "Don't you see that nothing that enters a man from the outside can make him unclean? For it doesn't go into his heart but into his stomach, and then out of his body!" By saying this Jesus declared **ALL FOODS CLEAN**!! He went on "What comes out of a man is what makes him unclean. For from within , out of men's hearts, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. All these evils come from inside and make a man unclean!"
Acts 10:9-16: Peter went up on the roof to pray. He became hungry and wanted something to eat, and while the meal was being prepared, he fell into a trance. He saw heaven opened and something like a large sheet being let down to earth by the four corners. It contained all kinds of four-footed animals, as well as reptiles of the earth and birds of the air. Then a Voice told him, "Get up, Peter, kill and **EAT**!" "Surely not, Lord!" Peter replied. "I have never eaten anything impure or unclean." The Voice spoke to him a second time, "Do not call anything impure that **GOD HAS MADE CLEAN**!"{As per Mark 7:19 above) This happened **THREE TIMES**!, and the sheet was taken back to heaven!
I Timothy 4:1-5: The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. Such teachings come through **HYPOCRITICAL LIARS**, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron. They forbid people to marry and order them **TO ABSTAIN FROM CERTAIN FOODS**, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. For everything God created is good, and **NOTHING IS TO BE REJECTED** if it is received with thanksgiving, because it is consecrated by the word of God and prayer!!
I Corinthians 10:25: Eat **ANYTHING** sold in the meat market without raising questions of conscience, for, "The earth is the Lord's, and everything in it!"
Lobster Tail, Shrimp and Ham are now yum yum yummy and are so good for your tummy!!
Actually TNT you have apparently forgotten that the forbidding to eat certain animals birds and fish was strictly in the OT Covenant for Jews. According to Noah's Covenant and Adam's Covenant God allowed people to eat everything with the breath of life in it!!!!!
God's First Covenant with Adam:
Genesis 1:29,30: Then God said, "give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it They will be yours for food. And to **ALL THE BEASTS OF THE EARTH** and **ALL** the birds of the air and **ALL** the creatures that move on the ground--**EVERYTHING** that has the breath of life in it..for food!"
God's Second Covenant with Noah:
Genesis 9:1-3: Then God blessed Noah and his sons, saying to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the earth. The fear and dread of you will fall upon all the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air, upon every creature that moves along the ground, and upon all the fish of the sea, they are given to your hands. **EVERYTHING** that lives and moves will be **FOOD FOR YOU**!!
Galatians 3:23-25: "Before faith came, we were held prisoners by the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ that we might be justified by faith. Now that faith has come, *WE* ARE NO LONGER UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF THE LAW!!" {Hark disagrees with these inspired words of God!! since he believe we are still under the supervision of OT Law!}
I Corinthians 9:20,21: Paul said, "To the Jews I became like a Jew, to win the Jews. To those under the law I became like one under the law though **I MYSELF AM NOT UNDER THE LAW**, so as to win those under the law. To those not having the law I became like one not having the law though I am not free from God's law but **AM UNDER CHRIST'S LAW!!"
>Proof Prophetic 7744 does not study the Bible; he only quotes it:<
The covenant God made with Israel at Mount Sinai was based on many laws and other instructions that ensured ritual purity. Jewish observance, however, often went beyond these in embracing the “oral law” or “tradition of the elders”—passed on by word of mouth and consisting of many additional man-made requirements and prohibitions tacked onto God’s laws. Mark 7:3-4 provide a brief explanation of the specific practice the Pharisees and scribes were referring to in this account: “For the Pharisees and all the Jews do not eat unless they wash their hands in a special way, holding the tradition of the elders …”
Notice that food laws are not in question here. The topic is ritual purity based on the religious traditions of the oral law. The disciples were being criticized for not following the proper procedure of ceremonial hand-washing prescribed by these revered religious traditions.
Zech: apparently you forgot to read the second half of Mark:7:18-23 which has absolutely nothing to do with hand washing and all the rest of the New Covenant verses declaring all foods are now clean since you really only believe in the Old Testament.
Zech: You are so full of bologna it must be coming out of your ears :-)))
**JESUS DECLARED THAT **ALL FOODS ARE NOW CLEAN** IN THE NEW COVENANT!!
Colossians 2:16,17: Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you **EAT** or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a **SABBATH DAY**. These are a *SHADOW* of the things that were to come, the reality, however, is found in Christ!!!
Mark 7:18-23: Jesus says, "Don't you see that nothing that enters a man from the outside can make him unclean? For it doesn't go into his heart but into his stomach, and then out of his body!" By saying this Jesus declared **ALL FOODS CLEAN**!! He went on "What comes out of a man is what makes him unclean. For from within , out of men's hearts, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. All these evils come from inside and make a man unclean!"
Acts 10:9-16: Peter went up on the roof to pray. He became hungry and wanted something to eat, and while the meal was being prepared, he fell into a trance. He saw heaven opened and something like a large sheet being let down to earth by the four corners. It contained all kinds of four-footed animals, as well as reptiles of the earth and birds of the air. Then a Voice told him, "Get up, Peter, kill and **EAT**!" "Surely not, Lord!" Peter replied. "I have never eaten anything impure or unclean." The Voice spoke to him a second time, "Do not call anything impure that **GOD HAS MADE CLEAN**!"{As per Mark 7:19 above) This happened **THREE TIMES**!, and the sheet was taken back to heaven!
I Timothy 4:1-5: The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. Such teachings come through **HYPOCRITICAL LIARS**, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron. They forbid people to marry and order them **TO ABSTAIN FROM CERTAIN FOODS**, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. For everything God created is good, and **NOTHING IS TO BE REJECTED** if it is received with thanksgiving, because it is consecrated by the word of God and prayer!!
I Corinthians 10:25: Eat **ANYTHING** sold in the meat market without raising questions of conscience, for, "The earth is the Lord's, and everything in it!"
Lobster Tail, Shrimp and Ham are now yum yum yummy and are so good for your tummy!!
Actually TNT you have apparently forgotten that the forbidding to eat certain animals birds and fish was strictly in the OT Covenant for Jews. According to Noah's Covenant and Adam's Covenant God allowed people to eat everything with the breath of life in it!!!!!
God's First Covenant with Adam:
Genesis 1:29,30: Then God said, "give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it They will be yours for food. And to **ALL THE BEASTS OF THE EARTH** and **ALL** the birds of the air and **ALL** the creatures that move on the ground--**EVERYTHING** that has the breath of life in it..for food!"
God's Second Covenant with Noah:
Genesis 9:1-3: Then God blessed Noah and his sons, saying to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the earth. The fear and dread of you will fall upon all the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air, upon every creature that moves along the ground, and upon all the fish of the sea, they are given to your hands. **EVERYTHING** that lives and moves will be **FOOD FOR YOU**!!
Galatians 3:23-25: "Before faith came, we were held prisoners by the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ that we might be justified by faith. Now that faith has come, *WE* ARE NO LONGER UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF THE LAW!!" {Zech disagrees with these inspired words of God since he believes we are still under the supervision of OT LAWS??
I Corinthians 9:20,21: Paul said, "To the Jews I became like a Jew, to win the Jews. To those under the law I became like one under the law though **I MYSELF AM NOT UNDER THE LAW**, so as to win those under the law. To those not having the law I became like one not having the law though I am not free from God's law but **AM UNDER CHRIST'S LAW!!"
Teddy, i have eaten squirrel, raccoon, muskrat,deer, and snails,and my conscience does not bother me, maybe my stomach a little after.
NASB77 • NASB95 • Strong's
◄ Genesis 9 ►
NASB + Strong's
Covenant of the Rainbow
1And God blessed Noah and his sons and said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth. 2"The fear of you and the terror of you will be on every beast of the earth and on every bird of the sky; with everything that creeps on the ground, and all the fish of the sea, into your hand they are given. 3"Every moving thing that is alive shall be food for you; I give all to you, as [I gave] the green plant. 4"Only you shall not eat flesh with its life, [that is], its blood. 5"Surely I will require your lifeblood; from every beast I will require it. And from [every] man, from every man's brother I will require the life of man.
6"Whoever sheds man's blood, By man his blood shall be shed, For in the image of God He made man.
7"As for you, be fruitful and multiply; Populate the earth abundantly and multiply in it."
Zech writes - "Imo; The dietary laws are not about heaven or hell, or being right with God, but rather about good health."
Well you are right it is your opinion but YOU are wrong! Eating clean food and NOT eating unclean "food" is a matter of being right with Yahweh! Are you saying that Noah would be right in offering a sacrifice of an unclean animal (which Noah did not eat because there was only two of that kind) on the alter to Yahweh??? Clearly that would be a salvation issue if he did! Correct?
Grace writes - "Yes, I understand, BUT this was given to Noah BEFORE any dietary rules were set in place."
Are you really that ignorant about what kind of animals Noah took on the ark Gracenotworksaves? I gave your full forum name because you seem to claim your works do not prove your FAITH and how GRACE comes through that! The Bible is clear Noah ONLY took of the unclean animals by two (Gen 7:15) and of the clean animals and birds by sevens (perfection number) in the ark (Gen 2:2,3; 8:20) before it even flooded the whole flat earth! The fact is that even when Noah was ON the ark for MONTHS and then got off of the ark, he could not of eaten ANY unclean "foods" becaus there was ONLY two of each UNCLEAN! Right? So in the New Testament it clearly says your literal body is a temple, to be kept free of sin and so do you really think you can put some kind of abomination unclean scavenger animal for "food" in your body now. Did Yahweh make a mistake when He gave the dietary laws WAY before Noah's day and today He changed His mind??? Absurd!
Montana writes - " neither circumcision has any power to do any thing, nor uncircumcision;"
What legalism of circumcision has to do with Biblical dietary Laws is beyond me why you would compare the two, when dietary Laws were never talked about by Paul as being a legalism issue! Please stay on topic here sir.
Quote of Montana - Eph 5:2 "And walk in love, as Christ loved us, and gave himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a
sweetsmelling fragrance."
Perfect verse to make my point! Paul would clearly teach that a sacrifice must be without blemish, NO unclean animals offered on the alter of a sweetsmelling fragrance to Yahweh in the Old Testament like Noah did, right? And so it is in the New Testament we offer our CLEAN temple bodies to Him daily, that have not been deviled with unclean "foods" of any kind, a sweetsmelling fragrance to
Genesis 1:29,30: Then God said, "give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it They will be yours for food. And to **ALL THE BEASTS OF THE EARTH** and **ALL** the birds of the air and **ALL** the creatures that move on the ground--**EVERYTHING** that has the breath of life in it..for food!"
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My KJV says that Adam and Eve ate herbs and all fruit but from one tree...likewise the animals did eat herbs too. So you need to get a KJV and or read it with pure lenses. Put your glasses on !! The HERBS ARE their MEAT.
Genesis 1:29-30 King James Version (KJV)
29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
11 And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending upon him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the FOUR CORNERS, and let down to the earth: (HMM..where have I heard four corners before? oh yeah! HE will gather his elect from the four corners. See verse at end.)
12 Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air.
13 And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat.
14 But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have NEVER eaten any thing that is common or UNCLEAN.
15 And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.
24 And the morrow after they entered into Caesarea. And Cornelius waited for them, and he had called together his kinsmen and near friends.
25 And as Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him, and fell down at his feet, and worshipped him.
26 But Peter took him up, saying, Stand up; I myself also am a man.
27 And as he talked with him, he went in, and found many that were come together.
28 And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but GOD HATH SHEWED ME that I should NOT CALL any MAN common or UNCLEAN.
Isaiah 11:12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the FOUR CORNERS of the earth.
Matthew 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
Ezekiel 7:2 Also, thou son of man, thus saith the Lord God unto the land of Israel; An end, the end is come upon the four corners of the land.
Revelation 7:1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.
The HERBS ARE their MEAT.