Peter wasn't the first Pope he was the first Preterist. LOL
Posted : 22 Aug, 2019 04:08 PM
The full Preterist view of end times Eschatology has a view of ALL things being fulfilled. I believe ALL has been fulfilled according to the Word of the Lord.
Could Peter have made it any clearer? Are people that brainwashed in "Church"..what does God's WORD say???? Parrot asks this ALL the time..
Yes, what DOES it say...???
Let's take a look-see...
Put your glasses on for this first!!!
Acts 2:1
And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.
2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.
3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.
4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
5 And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of EVERY NATION UNDER HEAVEN.
6 Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language.
7 And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans?
8 And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?
9 Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia,
10 Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes,
11 Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God.
12 And they were all amazed, and were in doubt, saying one to another, What meaneth this?
13 Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine.
14 But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words:
15 For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day.
16 But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;
17 And it shall COME TO PASS IN THE LAST DAYS, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall PROPHESY, and your young men shall see VISIONS, and your old men shall dream DREAMS:
18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out IN THOSE DAYS OF MY SPIRIT; and they shall PROPHESY:
19 And I will shew WONDERS in heaven above, and SIGNS in the earth beneath; BLOOD, and FIRE, and VAPOUR of smoke:
20 The SUN shall be turned into DARKNESS, and the MOON into BLOOD, BEFORE THE GREAT and NOTABLE DAY OF THE LORD COME:
21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.
22 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by MIRACLES and WONDERS and SIGNS, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:
23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:
24 Whom God hath raised up, having LOOSED THE PAINS OF DEATH: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it.
25 For David speaketh concerning him, I foresaw the Lord always before my face, for he is on my right hand, that I should not be moved:
26 Therefore did my heart rejoice, and my tongue was glad; moreover also my FLESH SHALL REST in hope:
27 Because thou wilt NOT LEAVE MY SOUL IN HELL, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
28 Thou hast made known to me the ways of life; thou shalt make me full of joy with thy countenance.
29 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is BOTH DEAD AND BURIED, and his sepulchre is WITH US unto this day.
30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had SWORN WITH AN OATH to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;
31 He seeing this before spake of the RESURRECTION of Christ, THAT HIS SOUL WAS NOT LEFT IN HELL, neither his flesh did see corruption.
32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.
33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.
34 For David is NOT ASCENDED INTO THE HEAVENS: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
35 UNTIL I make thy foes thy FOOTSTOOL.
36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from THIS untoward GENERATION.
41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.
42 And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.
43 And fear came upon every soul: and many WONDERS and SIGNS were done by the apostles.
44 And all that believed were together, and had all things common;
45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.
46 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and BREAKING BREAD from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,
47 Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.
SO, seems Peter believed that the end was near . Sounds like what he says matches with what Jesus taught in Matthew 24. The one about the signs wonders, moon , sun , destruction, etc. The last enemy was death so now there has been a resurrection of saints and satan has been defeated and hell was the grave which he had power over until Jesus resurrected and took it away from him.
Now go read Genesis 2:16-17, Matthew 24, 1 Corinthians 15:26
Rev 5:9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of EVERY KINDRED and TONGUE, and PEOPLE, and NATION;
10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall REIGN ON THE EARTH.
Peter wasn't the first Pope he was the first Preterist. LOL
Posted : 23 Aug, 2019 03:46 PM
The wolf (Gentiles), so to speak, now dwells safely with the lamb (Jews), i.e. among those who belong to Christ. The Gentile nations which were deceived and dwelling “far off” (Ephesians 2:11-22; Romans 9:22-26) prior to Christ’s work on the cross are now brought near (so that without distinction “everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved”; Romans 10:12-13).
Peter wasn't the first Pope he was the first Preterist. LOL
Posted : 23 Aug, 2019 04:00 PM
Both of you are wrong!!!!!! Lol!
Quote - "The old sun and moon exist." end quote
Well I'm thinking what is wrong with the old clocks, does the Bible say there will be a completely different sun and moon made new?
I know it is said the moon will be darkened (not give HER light), turned red at times (blood moons) and withdraw itself (It makes its own light) but where is it said Yahweh's clocks will be changed by design from what they are now from that in the new flat earth?
Quote - "There is still a sea." end quote.
You think all the sea will be gone? Really? Or just reduced in size because it was drastically altered during the flood and on?
Quote - "The stars haven't fallen from the sky like figs." end quote.
Do you realize what you just stated! Imagine HUGE blazing stars with "planets" spinning about them like the jesuit illuminati freemason dogma teaches in schools, so many smashing into the earth that are many times larger than the earth they say! Lol! Do you not see how absurd all this "education dogma" is in reasoning reality Zech? HUGE stars falling from the sky!!! Those would be some
BIG figs, no? LMBO!
Quote - "The sky has not rolled back like a scroll." end quote.
Another interesting post but probably not much in deep thought for you? In your coveted sphere model with only a "atmosphere" and "space" outside in the globlet model, what would be the purpose in a "rolled back like a scroll" when "space" has no substance, its "empty and black" with only other "galaxies" according to the jesuit illuminati freemasons dogma! Lol! Is it obvious now the flat earth is covered with a dome or as the Bible says a firmament (Gen 1:6) over it, that when Yahweh comes for His Saints, He will part that sky like a scroll?
Peter wasn't the first Pope he was the first Preterist. LOL
Posted : 23 Aug, 2019 04:23 PM
Teddyhug
"Another interesting post but probably not much in deep thought for you?"
Yeah, you're probably right; much to deep for me. A catastrophic polarity shift in the magnetic field of the earth's molten core disrupting tectonic plates resulting rapid in continental drift could possibly have nothing to do with the sky being rolled back like a scroll.
Peter wasn't the first Pope he was the first Preterist. LOL
Posted : 23 Aug, 2019 05:31 PM
The Preterists believe that everything in the Olivet prophecies in Matthew 24 and 25, Mark 13 and Luke 21 and all the prophecies in Revelation were completed in a **KINGDOM ON EARTH** with flesh and blood {See ! Cor 15:50,51 below} in AD 70???
**BUT WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY**??
**WE** ARE ALL WAITING FOR THE NEW HEAVEN THE NEW EARTH AND THE ETERNAL NEW JERUSALEM**!! 2 Peter 3:13!!
2 Peter 3:10-13: But the Day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will DISAPPEAR with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and *EVERYTHING* in it will be burned up. Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives as you {**CHURCH SAINTS*} wait eagerly for the Day of God to come. That Day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat. But in keeping with His promise **WE** {Excluding the Preterists and the RC church} **ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO A **NEW HEAVENS** AND A **NEW EARTH**, the home of righteousness.
I Corinthians 15:50--51: I declare to you brothers, that flesh and blood **CANNOT INHERIT the *KINGDOM OF GOD**... Listen I tell you a mystery: we will not all sleep, but we will all be changed, in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet."
John 18:36: Jesus says, "My *KINGDOM* IS NOT OF THIS WORLD**....But now, my Kingdom is from **ANOTHER PLACE**!!"
**WHILE THE PRETERIST KINGDOM IS AN **EARTHLY KINGDOM** IN AD 70 completely controlled by very evil Roman Kings for the following 400 years who love to kill and persecute Christians!!
Matthew 25:31-34: Jesus says, "When the Son of Man comes in His glory , and all the angels with Him, He will sit on His throne in heavenly glory. All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate the people one from another..He will put the sheep on the right and the goats on His left. Then the King will say to those on His right, "Come you who are blessed of My Father, take your inheritance, the *KINGDOM* prepared for you!!"
**WE** ARE ALL WAITING FOR THE NEW EARTH, THE NEW HEAVENS AND THE HEAVENLY NEW JERUSALEM!!
Revelation 21:1-5: Then I saw a **NEW HEAVEN** and a **NEW EARTH**, for the {present} first heaven and first earth had **PASSED AWAY**, and there was no longer any sea. I saw the Holy City, the **NEW JERUSALEM**, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "**NOW** the dwelling of God is with men, and He will live with them. They will be His people, and God Himself will be with them. They will be His people, and God Himself will be with them and be their God. He will wipe every tear from their eyes, There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away." He who was seated on the throne said, "I am making **EVERYTHING NEW**!" Then He said, "Write this down, for these words are TRUSTWORTHY and TRUE!"
Hebrews 11:13-16: All these people {Abraham, Sarah Isaac, Jacob, Noah etc} were still living by faith when they died. They did not receive the things promised; they only saw them from a distance. And they admitted that they were aliens and strangers on earth. People who say such things show they are looking for a country of their own. If they had been thinking of the country they had left, they would have had opportunity to return. Instead, they were looking for a BETTER COUNTRY--a HEAVENLY ONE. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for he has prepared a *CITY* (The *NEW JERUSALEM*} for them!!
Galatians 4:25,26: Now Hagar stands for Mount Sinai in Arabia and corresponds to the present city of Jerusalem, because she is in slavery with her children. But the **JERUSALEM** that is **ABOVE** is free, and she is our MOTHER !!
The New Jerusaem is described in Revelation 21:9 to Revelation 22:5. The New Jerusalem will be 12,000 stadia long, high and wide as per Revelation 21:16. A stadia is 606 feet long which is the exact same length as the ancient Greek stadium. 606 feet times 12,000 equals 7,272,000 feet which is 1377 miles plus 1,440 feet. A mile is exactly 5,280 feet. {1377 times 5,280 feet equal 7,270,560 feet.} And so the New Jerusalem will be exactly 1377 miles plus 1,440 feet long, wide and high!!
Revelation 21:9-12,15-16,19,23,27; Revelation 22:1-6: The angel said to John, “Come, I will show you the Bride the Wife of the Lamb.” And he carried me away in the Spirit to a mountain great and high, and showed me the Holy City, Jerusalem, coming down out of Heaven from from God It shone like the glory of God, and its brilliance was like that of a very precious jewel. It had a great high wall {1377 miles plus 1,440 feet HIGH!} with 12 gates, and with 12 angels at the gates.
The angel who talked with me had a measuring rod of gold to measure the City, its gates and its walls. The City was laid out like a square, as long as it was wide. He measured the City with the rod and found it to be 12,000 stadia {A Stadia is exactly 606 feet} in length, and as wide and high as it is long. {1377 miles plus 1,440 feet long, wide and high} The wall was made of Jasper, and the City of pure gold, as pure as glass. The foundations of the city walls were decorated with every kind of precious stone....... The great street of the City was of pure gold, like transparent glass...... Only those written in the Lamb's Book of Life will be able to enter the New Jerusalem!
Revelation 22:1-5: Then the angel showed me the river of the Water of Life, as clear as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and the Lamb {Jesus} down the middle of the great street of the City. On each side of the river stood the Tree of Life, bearing 12 crops of fruit, yielding its fruit every month... The throne of God and of the **LAMB** will be in the City, and his servants will serve Him. They will see His face and His name will be on their foreheads. There will be no more night!! They will not need the light of the lamp or the light of the sun, for the Lord God will give them light. And they will reign **FOR EVER AND EVER**. The angel said to me, “These words are TRUSTWORTHY and TRUE!!”
JESUS WILL WRITE ON US THE NAME OF THE CITY OF GOD THE **NEW JERUSALEM**!!
Revelation 2:18; 3:12,21: Jesus says, "To him who overcomes I will give him a white stone with a new name written on it, known only to him who receives it... I will write on him the name of the City of My God, the **NEW JERUSALEM**, which is coming down out of heaven from My God....And I will give the right to sit with Me on My throne, just as I overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne."
According to Revelation 22:3 the only 2 thrones in the **NEW JERUSALEM** will be the thrones of the **FATHER** and of the **LAMB** Jesus Christ.
Peter wasn't the first Pope he was the first Preterist. LOL
Posted : 23 Aug, 2019 08:33 PM
KJVonly quote:
The earth being “established forever.”
The Preterists believe that everything in the Olivet prophecies in Matthew 24 and 25, Mark 13 and Luke 21 and all the prophecies in Revelation were completed in a **KINGDOM ON EARTH** with flesh and blood {See ! Cor 15:50,51 below} in AD 70???
**BUT WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY**??
Isaiah 65:17. The Lord said, "See I will create **NEW HEAVENS** and a **NEW EARTH**. The former things will not be remembered!
Hebrews 12:26-29; At that time God's voice shook the earth, but now He has promised,"Once more I will shake not only the earth but also the heavens." The words "once more" indicate the **REMOVING of what can be shaken--that is created things--so that what cannot be shaken may remain! Therefore, since we are receiving a kingdom that cannot be shaken, let us be thankful, and worship God acceptably with reverence and awe for our God is a **CONSUMING FIRE**!
**WE** ARE ALL WAITING FOR THE NEW HEAVEN THE NEW EARTH AND THE ETERNAL NEW JERUSALEM**!! 2 Peter 3:13!!
2 Peter 3:10-13: But the Day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will DISAPPEAR with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and *EVERYTHING* in it will be burned up. Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives as you {**CHURCH SAINTS*} wait eagerly for the Day of God to come. That Day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat. But in keeping with His promise **WE** {Excluding the Preterists and the RC church} **ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO A **NEW HEAVENS** AND A **NEW EARTH**, the home of righteousness.
I Corinthians 15:50--51: I declare to you brothers, that flesh and blood **CANNOT INHERIT the *KINGDOM OF GOD**... Listen I tell you a mystery: we will not all sleep, but we will all be changed, in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet."
While the Preterists wrongly believe that people with **FLESH AND BLOOD** will enter am **EARTHLY KINGDOM OF GOD** IN AD 70???
John 18:36: Jesus says, "My *KINGDOM* IS NOT OF THIS WORLD**....But now, my Kingdom is from **ANOTHER PLACE**!!"
**WHILE THE PRETERIST KINGDOM IS AN **EARTHLY KINGDOM** IN AD 70 completely controlled by very evil Roman Kings for the following 400 years who love to kill and persecute Christians!!
Matthew 25:31-34: Jesus says, "When the Son of Man comes in His glory , and all the angels with Him, He will sit on His throne in heavenly glory. All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate the people one from another..He will put the sheep on the right and the goats on His left. Then the King will say to those on His right, "Come you who are blessed of My Father, take your inheritance, the *KINGDOM* prepared for you!!" {DID THIS TAKE PLACE IN AD 70??}
**WE** ARE ALL WAITING FOR THE NEW EARTH, THE NEW HEAVENS AND THE HEAVENLY NEW JERUSALEM!!
Revelation 21:1-5: Then I saw a **NEW HEAVEN** and a **NEW EARTH**, for the {present} first heaven and first earth had **PASSED AWAY**, and there was no longer any sea. I saw the Holy City, the **NEW JERUSALEM**, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "**NOW** the dwelling of God is with men, and He will live with them. They will be His people, and God Himself will be with them. They will be His people, and God Himself will be with them and be their God. He will wipe every tear from their eyes, There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away." He who was seated on the throne said, "I am making **EVERYTHING NEW**!" Then He said, "Write this down, for these words are TRUSTWORTHY and TRUE!"
{DID THIS TAKE PLACE IN AD 70??}
Hebrews 11:13-16: All these people {Abraham, Sarah Isaac, Jacob, Noah etc} were still living by faith when they died. They did not receive the things promised; they only saw them from a distance. And they admitted that they were aliens and strangers on earth. People who say such things show they are looking for a country of their own. If they had been thinking of the country they had left, they would have had opportunity to return. Instead, they were looking for a BETTER COUNTRY--a HEAVENLY ONE. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for he has prepared a *CITY* (The *NEW JERUSALEM*} for them!!
Galatians 4:25,26: Now Hagar stands for Mount Sinai in Arabia and corresponds to the present city of Jerusalem, because she is in slavery with her children. But the **JERUSALEM** that is **ABOVE** is free, and she is our MOTHER !!
Revelation 22:1-5: Then the angel showed me the river of the Water of Life, as clear as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and the Lamb {Jesus} down the middle of the great street of the City. On each side of the river stood the Tree of Life, bearing 12 crops of fruit, yielding its fruit every month... The throne of God and of the **LAMB** will be in the City, and his servants will serve Him. They will see His face and His name will be on their foreheads. There will be no more night!! They will not need the light of the lamp or the light of the sun, for the Lord God will give them light. And they will reign **FOR EVER AND EVER**. The angel said to me, “These words are TRUSTWORTHY and TRUE!!”
{DID THIS TAKE PLACE IN AD 70??}
JESUS WILL WRITE ON US THE NAME OF THE CITY OF GOD THE **NEW JERUSALEM**!!
Revelation 2:18; 3:12,21: Jesus says, "To him who overcomes I will give him a white stone with a new name written on it, known only to him who receives it... I will write on him the name of the City of My God, the **NEW JERUSALEM**, which is coming down out of heaven from My God....And I will give the right to sit with Me on My throne, just as I overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne."
According to Revelation 22:3 the only 2 thrones in the **NEW JERUSALEM** will be the thrones of the **FATHER** and of the **LAMB** Jesus Christ.
