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Posted : 18 Aug, 2019 08:53 PM

What is the singular light in Genesis before the sun and moon were made?

The Word of God brings light. Spiritual illumination. God spoke and there was light which he divided from the darkness before the sun and moon were made. God's Word is a light to our dark minds which points to Jesus Christ.

God being invisible made all things manifest and visible through his Word...likewise, when we have faith in the invisible we look beyond the visible and what our natural eyes show us. A reversal .

With that being said, how does your faith grow.?

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Posted : 22 Aug, 2019 06:06 PM

**WE ARE NO LONGER UDER THE SUPERVISION OF THE OT LAW** Galatians 3:25



Galatians 4:9,10: How is it that you are turning back to those weak and miserable principles? Do you want to be enslaved by them all over again? You are observing **SPECIAL DAYS** and months and seasons and years. I fear for you. that somehow I have wasted my efforts on you!!



Colossians 2:16,17: Do dot let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard a special festival, a New Moon celebration or a **SABBATH DAY**! These are a **SHADOW** of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found **IN CHRIST**!!



In the New Testament **EVERY DAY** is the **LORD'S DAY** especially **TODAY**!!



Acts 2:44-46: All the believers were together and had everything in common. They sold property and possessions to give to everyone who had need. **EVERY DAY** they continued to meet together!!



Hebrews 3:12,13: See to it brothers and sisters that none of you has a sinful, unbelieving heart that turns away from the living God. But **ENCOURAGE ONE ANOTHER **DAILY**, as long as it is called **TODAY** so that none of you may be hardened by sins deceitfulness!



Exodus 31:14-16: Observe the Sabbath, because it is holy to you. Anyone who desecrates it is to be put to death; those who do **ANY WORK** on that day must be **CUT OFF** from their people... Whoever does **ANY WORK** on the Sabbath day is to be put to death!



Exodus 35:2,3; Whoever does **ANY WORK** on the Sabbath must be put to death. Do not **LIGHT A FIRE** in any of your dwellings on the Sabbath day.



This was possible in Israel since it is about the same latitude of warm South Carolina. But anyone in the frigid parts of the earth must freeze to death in the winter since electricity would not be invented until over 2,000 years after this commandment was given!!



Matthew 12:1-12: Jesus went through the grainfields on the Sabbath. His disciples were hungry and began to pick some heads of grain and eat them. When the Pharisees saw this, the said to Him, "Look your disciples are doing what is **UNLAWFUL ON THE SABBATH**. Jesus answered, "Haven't you heard of what David did when he and his companions were hungry? He entered the house of God, and he and his companions ate the consecrated bread--which was not lawful for them to do, but only for the priests... If you had known what these words mean, 'I desire mercy not sacrifice, you would not have condemned the innocent. For the Son of Man is **LORD OF THE SABBATH**!" Going from that place, Jesus went into their synagogue, and a man with a shriveled hand was there. Looking for a reason to being charges against Jesus, they asked Him, "IS IT LAWFUL TO HEAL ON THE SABBATH?" Jesus said to the, "If any of you has a sheep and it falls into a pit on the Sabbath?" Jesus said to them, "If any of you has a sheep and it falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will you not take hold of it and lift it out? Therefore it is lawful to do good {*WORK*} on the Sabbath!"



John 5:16-18: So because Jesus was doing these things on the Sabbath, the Jewish leaders began to persecute Him. In his defense Jesus said to them. "My Father is always at His work to this very day, and **I TOO AM **WORKING**!" For this reason they tried all the more to kill Him; not only was **HE BREAKING THE SABBATH**, but He was even calling God His own Father, making Himself equal with God.



John 9:16: The Pharisees said of Jesus, "This man is not from God , for He does **NOT KEEP THE SABBATH**!"



There is not one commandment by Jesus to keep the OT Sabbath laws. Jesus eliminated the death penalty for doing **ANY WORK** on the Sabbath. Jesus commanded that it is OK to do **GOOD WORKS** on the Sabbath. Jesus claimed that **HE WAS WORKING** on the Sabbath. Jesus was with His disciples as they were breaking the Sabbath by gathering grain to eat on the Sabbath. When Jesus told the rich man which of the 10 OT laws to keep He did bit include the Sabbath. There is not even one New Testament command to keep the Sabbath but there are many HT commands to keep the other 9 commandments. And Colossians 2:17 says to not let anyone judge for keeping or not keeping the Sabbath.



About 500 of the 613 Old Testament laws have been eliminated in the New Testament. There are about 100 OT laws that are repeated in the New Testament. Then there are some OT laws that are obviously still in effect that are not mentioned or banned in the New Testament such as not wearing tattoos, not having sex with animals and selling your daughters as prostitutes.



Since Paul says over 20 times that we are **NO LONGER UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF THE OT LAWS** there are many who teach that all of Paul's books are of Satan and since Luke and Peter confirm Paul the books of Luke and Acts and Peter are also of Satan and half of the other books in God's Word who disagree with their ridiculous doctrines are also of Satan.



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Posted : 22 Aug, 2019 06:08 PM

ok..So to recap.

I understand that Yeshua is the Word. Check

I understand that he didn't create himself on day one as he was begotten in the flesh later and God has no beginning. check

Jesus is God the Father in the flesh . Check.

But you are saying that there was another sun on day 1 before the sun and moon were made on day 4?

And this sun would be in reference to the Sun of Righteousness? Jesus..?

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Posted : 22 Aug, 2019 06:21 PM

"But you are saying that there was another sun on day 1 before the sun and moon were made on day 4?"



No I'm saying there is only one literal sun made on day 1. How can you have time as we know it, unless there is a literal sun that moves to make time, a yom day?



"And this sun would be in reference to the Sun of Righteousness? Jesus..?"



Gen 1:3-5 has nothing to do with "the Sun of Righteousness? Jesus..?" Even though the WORD created all things. Agree or not?

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Posted : 22 Aug, 2019 06:38 PM

I had originally thought that the sun was created on day Yom. Yes, I had thought that maybe Genesis was repeating itself like some verses do . That does make sense that there was a clock put in place in the beginning to initiate time.

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Posted : 22 Aug, 2019 06:41 PM

Of course I agree that Jesus who is the Word of God Yahweh created ALL things. Nothing was made that was not created by him.

Now back to thinking this over..

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Posted : 22 Aug, 2019 06:52 PM

"I had originally thought that the sun was created on day Yom."

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Actually you should be saying the sun was created on day one and it was! Yom is the Hebrew word for day.



"Yes, I had thought that maybe Genesis was repeating itself like some verses do"

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Nope The Creation account never repeats itself as far as actual Creation of substance is concerned like creatures, land, water, sun and moon, stars etc.



"That does make sense that there was a clock put in place in the beginning to initiate time."



It does so very much, for how would we know time if He did not make literal time for us as we know it on this flat earth. I mean He is time but He purposely made a sun to tell us when a day begins and ends.



Even though silly Rome tells us a day begins at midnight! Lol! And the present day Jews say a day begins at sundown when it begins it get dark! WHAT???



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Posted : 22 Aug, 2019 06:56 PM

Light represents life. So it is life given . Light shines in the darkness . We are called to be that light. Let you light shine before men so that they may see you good works and glorify God in heaven.

Other than that ..

All I can come up with is electomagnetic energy to control the sun and moon stars, pole . etc. FOR SEASONS.

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Posted : 22 Aug, 2019 07:05 PM

Ok so put this into context for us Mr. Professor of Seasonal Moeds. LOL

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Posted : 22 Aug, 2019 07:07 PM

You are so spiritual in your thinking here but Creation is literal, the making of time (sun. moon and stars), creatures, land, sea, plants etc.



There is no "electomagnetic energy" as far as Creation is concerned because He spoke it into existence and Yahweh controls the sun and moon and stars!



You brought up a key word "FOR SEASONS". have you looked up that word "seasons" that applies to day 4 Gen 1:14? Hint hint.



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Posted : 22 Aug, 2019 07:20 PM

Ooh funny lady now! Did not look up the word season/mo'eds in Hebrew yet?



Need more hints? How about day 4 is plural in lights and day 1 of course is singular as we already said and discovered.



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