Author Thread: Matthew 25:31-34,41,46: Jesus says, "*WHEN* the Son of Man comes in His glory , and all the **ANGELS** with Him, He will sit on His throne in heavenly glory. All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate the people on from another..He will put the sheep on the right and the goats on His left. *THEN* the King will say to those on His right, "Come you who are blessed of My Father, take your inheritance, the *KINGDOM* prepared for you!!" *THEN* He will say to those on His left, 'Depart from Me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. *THEN* they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life!!"
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Matthew 25:31-34,41,46: Jesus says, "*WHEN* the Son of Man comes in His glory , and all the **ANGELS** with Him, He will sit on His throne in heavenly glory. All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate the people on from another..He will put the sheep on the right and the goats on His left. *THEN* the King will say to those on His right, "Come you who are blessed of My Father, take your inheritance, the *KINGDOM* prepared for you!!" *THEN* He will say to those on His left, 'Depart from Me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. *THEN* they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life!!"
Posted : 5 Oct, 2013 12:16 PM

Matthew 25:31-34,41,46: Jesus says, "*WHEN** the Son of Man comes in His glory , and all the **ANGELS**:angel::angel: with Him {See Matthew 24:29-31; 2 Thess 1:7 & Matt 16:27 below!}}, He will sit on His throne in heavenly glory. All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate the people on from another..He will put the sheep on the right and the goats on His left.



**THEN** the King will say to those on His right, "Come you who are blessed of My Father, take your inheritance, the *KINGDOM* prepared for you!!"



**THEN** He will say to those on His left, 'Depart from Me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.



**THEN** they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life!!"



2 Thess 1:1,6-10: To the *CHURCH* of the Thessalonians�God is just; He will pay back trouble to those who trouble you and give relief to you who are troubled, and to us as well. This will happen *WHEN* the Lord Jesus is *REVEALED* from heaven with His pwerful **ANGELS** :angel::angel:{See Matt 24:31 & 25:31}�. He will punish those who do not know God and do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. They will be punished with everlasting *DESTRUCTION* and shut out from the presence of the Lord *ON THE DAY HE COMES* to be glorified in His holy people and to be marveled at among **ALL** those who believed. This includes *YOU* {Church of Thessalonians}, because you believed our testimony to you !!



These inspired Words of God in I Thess 1:1,6-10 absolutely contradict the Preterist, Historist and Pre-Trib positions since in guarantees that the Thessalonian church saints will be resurrected on the *SAME DAY* as all the lost which would of course has to take place on the Last Day of the Great Tribulation.



Matthew 24:29-31 16:27; 25:31-46 below also completely contradict the Preterist, Historist and Pre-Trib positions:



Matthew 24:29-31: Jesus says, �Immediately after the distress of those {1260} days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light and the stars will fall from the sky.� {Luke 21:28 adds �When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.�} Then the nations will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky with power and great glory. And He will send His **ANGELS**:angel::angel: {See Matt 25:31 below and 2 Thess 1:7 above} with a loud {7TH & LAST} *TRUMPET* CALL and they will gather *His elect* from the 4 winds {Mark 13:27b adds:} �from the ends of the earth {Saints on earth} to the ends of the Heavens {Saints in Heaven}!!�



Matthew 16:27: Jesus says, "For the Son of Man is going to come in His Father's glory with His **ANGELS**:angel::angel:, and **THEN** He will reward each person according to what he has done!!"





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Matthew 25:31-34,41,46: Jesus says, "*WHEN* the Son of Man comes in His glory , and all the **ANGELS** with Him, He will sit on His throne in heavenly glory. All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate the people on from another..He will put the sheep on the right and the goats on His left. *THEN* the King will say to those on His right, "Come you who are blessed of My Father, take your inheritance, the *KINGDOM* prepared for you!!" *THEN* He will say to those on His left, 'Depart from Me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. *THEN* they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life!!"
Posted : 5 Oct, 2013 03:43 PM

Those who promote a FALSE understanding of history and eschatology are demanding that Christians should live in fear rather than victory. This is why so many misguided "Christians" are fleeing to the mountains, hoarding food, building bunkers, and other ridiculous non-sense.



We are called to BOLDLY go into the world, preach the Gospel, and make disciples. This means that we must learn what the Bible teaches --- that Christ prevails in time and in history. We are not told to sit home and "speculate" or to preach conspiracy theories of gloom and doom. This is nonsense.



Amen!!!...AMEN!!!...



Hey IWA...I will move where Yahshua directs me to...Im getting a strong pull towards Colorado :nahnah: before heading to Arizona...Just a suggestion Bro...You might wanna lay off the :toomuch:...it appears to be affecting your brain cells a wee bit...Hey did you know that 1 drink kills over billion brain cells ???



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Matthew 25:31-34,41,46: Jesus says, "*WHEN* the Son of Man comes in His glory , and all the **ANGELS** with Him, He will sit on His throne in heavenly glory. All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate the people on from another..He will put the sheep on the right and the goats on His left. *THEN* the King will say to those on His right, "Come you who are blessed of My Father, take your inheritance, the *KINGDOM* prepared for you!!" *THEN* He will say to those on His left, 'Depart from Me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. *THEN* they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life!!"
Posted : 5 Oct, 2013 03:46 PM

Are you seriously coming to CO. ? If it's true, I may actually change my view of the tribulation. :laugh: It is now beginning to sound like it is immanent.

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Matthew 25:31-34,41,46: Jesus says, "*WHEN* the Son of Man comes in His glory , and all the **ANGELS** with Him, He will sit on His throne in heavenly glory. All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate the people on from another..He will put the sheep on the right and the goats on His left. *THEN* the King will say to those on His right, "Come you who are blessed of My Father, take your inheritance, the *KINGDOM* prepared for you!!" *THEN* He will say to those on His left, 'Depart from Me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. *THEN* they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life!!"
Posted : 5 Oct, 2013 03:48 PM

I walk alone has stated that we should boldly go into all the world and preach the gospel to all nations as the Great Commission states.



Actually I went to Calvin College and found that the main Calvinistic denominations like the Christian Reformed and Protestant Reformed only send missionaries to areas where there are other Calvinistic churches. It is the evangelistic churches which send out 99% of the true Christian missionaries to every nation in the world and the Calvinists are the worst by far and only preach to other Calvinists.



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Matthew 25:31-34,41,46: Jesus says, "*WHEN* the Son of Man comes in His glory , and all the **ANGELS** with Him, He will sit on His throne in heavenly glory. All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate the people on from another..He will put the sheep on the right and the goats on His left. *THEN* the King will say to those on His right, "Come you who are blessed of My Father, take your inheritance, the *KINGDOM* prepared for you!!" *THEN* He will say to those on His left, 'Depart from Me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. *THEN* they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life!!"
Posted : 5 Oct, 2013 03:50 PM

Yup-A-Roo...I sure am...I go where Yahshua directs me too...



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Matthew 25:31-34,41,46: Jesus says, "*WHEN* the Son of Man comes in His glory , and all the **ANGELS** with Him, He will sit on His throne in heavenly glory. All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate the people on from another..He will put the sheep on the right and the goats on His left. *THEN* the King will say to those on His right, "Come you who are blessed of My Father, take your inheritance, the *KINGDOM* prepared for you!!" *THEN* He will say to those on His left, 'Depart from Me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. *THEN* they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life!!"
Posted : 5 Oct, 2013 03:55 PM

What percentage of churches are Calvinist and what percentage are not? It would seem to me that the OVERWHELMING majority of churches are NOT Calvinist. Therefore, it should not be the least bit surprising statistically that the Evangelical churches send out more missionaries. Should it?

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Matthew 25:31-34,41,46: Jesus says, "*WHEN* the Son of Man comes in His glory , and all the **ANGELS** with Him, He will sit on His throne in heavenly glory. All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate the people on from another..He will put the sheep on the right and the goats on His left. *THEN* the King will say to those on His right, "Come you who are blessed of My Father, take your inheritance, the *KINGDOM* prepared for you!!" *THEN* He will say to those on His left, 'Depart from Me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. *THEN* they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life!!"
Posted : 5 Oct, 2013 03:57 PM

"Yup-A-Roo...I sure am"



O.k, In that case, I am going to officially start praying to be raptured out of here. :ROFL: :nahnah:

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Matthew 25:31-34,41,46: Jesus says, "*WHEN* the Son of Man comes in His glory , and all the **ANGELS** with Him, He will sit on His throne in heavenly glory. All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate the people on from another..He will put the sheep on the right and the goats on His left. *THEN* the King will say to those on His right, "Come you who are blessed of My Father, take your inheritance, the *KINGDOM* prepared for you!!" *THEN* He will say to those on His left, 'Depart from Me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. *THEN* they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life!!"
Posted : 5 Oct, 2013 06:32 PM

Well, this is quite a hot debate going on here. :boxing:



Um. . . first of all the number 666 has nothing to do with the false prophet. It is the number of the beast and if you know numerology, which you should if you want to understand parts of the Old Testament, the 6 is the number of man. The reason for the 666 is to emphasize it. Anything in Hebrew that is repeated three times is meant to emphasize it. (I realize Rev was in Greek but the author was a Jew). A fourth time is really over the top. Secondly there has to be an anti-christ before there is a false prophet so let's not get ahead of ourselves. Thirdly, the idea of there being the one and a half - th coming of Jesus, also known as a rapture in which we meet the Lord in the air and go to heaven with Him, is completely un-Biblical. Oh, we may meet Him in the air but only to join in His coming to Jerusalem to set up His millennial Kingdom. Sorry, no one goes to heaven and it is the second coming! This supports the Biblical teaching that there are only two and not 2 and a half.



And yes, Dispen*sensationalism is a false teaching. :devil:

And perhaps IWA has a point that 777 does appear to be a little megalomaniacal but this is an open forum and I believe he has the right to express himself in any way he desires as long as he follows the rules and so far, he isn't breaking any.



Finally, Prophetic777 is a rather bold choice since 777 is the number of God and rather dangerous for any of us to claim it as our own and I would suggest you abandon it and take on the correct number for a man which would be 666. You know, just for your own well being. If I were you I'd be sure to be indoors, in the basement, away from any windows or doors during thunderstorms. . . if you know what I mean.

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Matthew 25:31-34,41,46: Jesus says, "*WHEN* the Son of Man comes in His glory , and all the **ANGELS** with Him, He will sit on His throne in heavenly glory. All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate the people on from another..He will put the sheep on the right and the goats on His left. *THEN* the King will say to those on His right, "Come you who are blessed of My Father, take your inheritance, the *KINGDOM* prepared for you!!" *THEN* He will say to those on His left, 'Depart from Me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. *THEN* they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life!!"
Posted : 5 Oct, 2013 07:18 PM

My bad prophet, I swear I saw your name as 777. LOL! Please forgive me. :peace:

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Matthew 25:31-34,41,46: Jesus says, "*WHEN* the Son of Man comes in His glory , and all the **ANGELS** with Him, He will sit on His throne in heavenly glory. All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate the people on from another..He will put the sheep on the right and the goats on His left. *THEN* the King will say to those on His right, "Come you who are blessed of My Father, take your inheritance, the *KINGDOM* prepared for you!!" *THEN* He will say to those on His left, 'Depart from Me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. *THEN* they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life!!"
Posted : 5 Oct, 2013 07:27 PM

Perhaps, it was a theophany. :laugh:

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Matthew 25:31-34,41,46: Jesus says, "*WHEN* the Son of Man comes in His glory , and all the **ANGELS** with Him, He will sit on His throne in heavenly glory. All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate the people on from another..He will put the sheep on the right and the goats on His left. *THEN* the King will say to those on His right, "Come you who are blessed of My Father, take your inheritance, the *KINGDOM* prepared for you!!" *THEN* He will say to those on His left, 'Depart from Me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. *THEN* they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life!!"
Posted : 5 Oct, 2013 07:55 PM

WHAT ARE THE 3 PASSAGES IN GOD'S WORD WHICH SHOW THAT THE GREAT TRIBULATION AND THE REIGN OF 666 WILL LAST EXACTLY 1260 DAYS OR 42 {30-DAY} MONTHS??



**{#1}** Daniel 12:1b,2,7b:� �There will be a time of distress {The Great Tribulation} such as not happened from the beginning of nations until then.� But at that time {The Last Day} your people--*EVERYONE* whose name is found written in the book {Both OT & NT Saints}�will be delivered.� Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt�It will be for a time. times and half a time {Which is also 1260 days as per Rev 12:6,14, or 42� {30-day} months as per Rev 13:5} *ALL* these things will be *COMPLETED.��



**{#2}**�Rev 13:5,7: The beast will be given a mouth to utter blasphemies and to exercise his authority for 42 {30-day} months {Not 7 years}�He will be given power to make war against the saints and to conquer them. COMPARE WITH:



**{#3}**Dan 7:25: �He will speak against the Most High and oppress His saints.� The saints will be handed over to him for time {12 months}, times {24 months} and 1/2 a time {6 months}. {Not 7 years}



Events in Revelation that will occur during the 1260-day Tribulation are discussed in Rev 6:1 to 18:24, Events that will occur on the Last Day are recorded in Rev 6:12-17; Rev 11:15-19; Rev 14:14-20; Rev 16:17-21; Rev 19:1-21 & Rev 20:9b-15.�There is absolutely no reference to any other resurrection before or during the Tribulation in Revelation chapters 6 through 19. The Olivet discourse by Jesus about the End-Times are recorded in Matt 24 & 25, Mark 13 and Luke 21.�



Events that will occur during the 1260-day Tribulation are recorded in Matt 24:9-28; Mark 13:5-23 and Luke 21:8-24. Events which will occur on the Last Day of the Tribulation including the 2nd Coming of Jesus are recorded in Matt 24:29-31; Matt 25:31-46; Mark 13:24-27, Luke 21:25-28 and 2 Peter 3:10-13. There is absolutely no mention of a rapture or resurrection before or during the Great Tribulation in the Olivet Discourse passages!! The glorious APPEARING of Jesus and the resurrection of His saints on the Last day of the Tribulation are mentioned in God's Word about 50 other times such as Titus 2:13: �WE wait for the blessed hope�the glorious APPEARING of our Great God and Savior, Jesus Christ,�



For example: If the coming of 666 and the 1260-day Great Tribulation starts on April 5th, 2014 then the 2nd coming of Jesus would occur exactly 1260 days later on Sepember 16th, 2017. When the 1260-day Great Tribulation begins God's saints will then know the exact day of the 2nd coming on the Last Day as per: Rev 3:3: Jesus says, �But {*IF*} you do not wake up, I will come like a thief, and you will not know at what time I will come to you.� I Thess 5:4: Paul said �But YOU BROTHERS {*CHURCH SAINTS*}, are not in darkness so that {*THIS DAY*} should surprise you like a thief.�



�70 7'S OR 490 YEARS ARE DECREED TO ANOINT THE MOST HOLY, TO ATONE FOR WICKEDNESS AND TO BRING IN EVERLASTING RIGHTEOUSNESS!!�



Dan 9:24-27: �70 7�s {490 years} are decreed for your people TO ANOINT THE MOST HOLY, TO ATONE FOR WICKEDNESS and TO BRING IN EVERLASTING RIGHTEOUSNSS.. "Know and understand this: From the issuing of the decree {By Cyrus-Isa 44:28 above} to rebuild Jerusalem until the Anointed One comes {Oct 23, AD 29?} there will be 7 plus 62 7's {Which is 69 7's or 483 years}. "After the 7 plus 62 7's {actually 1260 days after on April 3-5 AD 33} the Anointed One will be cut off but not for Himself..... He {The Anointed One} will confirm a COVENANT with many for one 'seven'. In the middle of the 'seven' {After 1260 days} He {The Anointed One; not 666} will put an END TO SACRIFICES {ATONE FOR WICKEDNESS}{And then after a long pause} the abomination of Desolation {666} will come {for the 1260 day Great Tribulation} until the decreed end is poured out on him.� on the Last day of the last 7 {See Rev 19:20} And so the first half of the last 7 was already COMPLETED when Jesus put and END to all sacrifices for sin 1260 days after His Anointing which occurred after 69 7's.



When the Anointed One came 69 7's or 483 years were 100% completed [See Dan 9:25 above} leaving just one 7 in the future; which will be totally used by those who wrongly believe in a future 7-year Tribulation; which means that the ATONEMENT FOR WICKEDNESS by Jesus about 3 1/2 years after His Anointing can not be included in the 70 7's Prophecy. However, God's Word clearly states that 70 7's are decreed ...TO ATONE FOR WICKEDNESS which occurred about 3 1/2 years after the end of the 69 7's and therefore the first half of the last 7 has already been completed since there are only 3 1/2 times left in the 70 7's. And so the Great Tribulation and the rule of 666 will last exactly 1260 days or 42 months or 3 1/2 times which agrees which God's Divine time periods found in Dan 12:1,2,7b; Dan 7:25 & Rev 13:5.



Now many saints believe the reign of 666 and the Great Tribulation are extremely close. I Peter 1:13: �Therefore, prepare your minds for ACTION, and set your hope *FULLY* on the grace to be given you when Jesus Christ is *REVEALED*!�



Mark 13:20: Jesus says, �If the Lord had not cut short those {Tribulation} days, no one would survive. But for the sake of the elect, whom He has chosen, He has shortened them.�The first 69 7's were 365-day years {7 years = 2557 days} but the Last 7 has been shortened to 360-day years and two 1260-day periods or 2520 days. And so God has shortened the last 7 of the 70 7's from 2557 days to two 1260-day periods or 2520 days. And God has shortened the Great Tribulation from 3 1/2 years or 1278 days to 3 1/2 times or 1260 days.



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