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Are you ready for the 1260-day Great Tribulation which may occur in 2013??
Posted : 1 Jan, 2013 05:22 PM
THE GREAT COMMISSION: Matthew 28:18-20: Jesus says, �All authority in heaven and on *EARTH has been given to Me {Not some RC Pope}. Therefore go and make disciples of *ALL NATIONS*...teaching them to **OBEY EVERYTHING** I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very *END OF THE AGE*!�
THE HARVEST IS THE END OF THE AGE!
Matthew 13:39-43: Jesus says, �The Harvest is the *END OF THE AGE and the harvesters are *ANGELS*. As the weeds are pulled up and burned in the fire, so it will be at the *END OF THE AGE*. The Son of Man will send out His *ANGELS*, and they will weed out of His kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil. They will throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. *THEN the righteous will shine like the sun in the kingdom of their Father!�
I Corinthians 15:22-24: �For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive. But each in his own turn: Christ the firstfruits, then when He comes, those who belong to Him. Then the **END** will come, when He hands over the Kingdom to God the Father after He has destroyed all dominion, authority and power.� And so when Jesus comes again at the *END OF THE AGE* He will hand over the Kingdom to God the Father!
Mark 13:10 Jesus says, �The *AGE TO COME* is Eternal Life!�I Timothy 6:19: In this way they will lay up treasure for themselves as a firm foundation for the *COMING AGE*, so that they may take hold of the life that is truly life!�
THE DISCIPLES ASKED JESUS, �WHAT WILL BE THE SIGN OF YOUR COMING AND THE END OF THE AGE??�
Is it a pre-trib rapture or the persecution and testing of God's saints and a great falling away at the beginning of the Great Tribulation??
� Matthew 24:3,9-13:� The disciples asked Jesus, �What will be the sign of your Coming and the *END OF THE AGE*?? Jesus answered�.. {During the 1260-dayGreat Tribulation} �Then *YOU* will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and *YOU will be hated by all nations because of Me.� At that time many will turn away from the Faith and will betray and hate each other, and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of *MOST* will grow cold,{THE GREAT APOSTASY} but he {The Called, Chosen & Faithful-Rev 17:14b} who stands firm to the *END will be saved. This gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to *ALL NATIONS*, and then the *END will come!�
And then we find just before the beginning of the 1260-day Great tribulation that there will be saints saved by the blood of Jesus from *EVERY Tribe, Language and Nation:
Revelation 5:9: �You {Jesus} are worthy to take the scroll and to open its seals, because you were slain, and with your blood you purchased men for God from *EVERY Tribe, Language, People and Nation!�
Just after the coming of the 4 Horsemen in Revelation 6:1-8 and just after the start of the 1260-day Great tribulation; we see this scene in Heaven:
Rev 6:9-11: When He {Jesus) opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain {MARTYRS} because of the Word of God and the testimony they had maintained. They called out in a loud voice, �How long, Sovereign Lord, holy and true, until You judge the inhabitanrts of the earth and avenge our blood?� Then each of them was given a *WHITE ROBE*, and they were told to wait a little longer, until the number of their fellow servants and brothers who were to be killed {Martyrs just like Jesus} as they had been was completed!
Rev 8:9, 13,14: After this I looked and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count from **EVERY** nation, tribe and language, standing before the throne and in front of the Lamb. They were wearing WHITE ROBES......Then one of the {24- See Rev 4:4,10} elders asked me, �These in WHITE ROBES�who are they and where do they come from?�...And he said, �These are they who come out of the Great Tribulatoion {Tribulation MARTYRS}; they have washed their ROBES and made them WHITE in the blood of the Lamb. At present the God's Word has only been translated into about 2,000 of the 6,000 languages in the world and faith comes by hearing and reading the Word of God! And so this prophecy in Matthew 24:13 above which must take place *BEFORE* the Harvest and 2nd Coming of Jesus will only be fulfilled *DURING the Great Tribulation!
The Heavenly rewards for the faithful and courageous *MARTYRS* is one of the most important central themes in the book of Revelation. For they will reign with Jesus in Heaven and according to Revelation 7:14-17: They are before the Throne of God and God will spread His tent over them before the Second Coming of Jesus. They will receive WHITE ROBES washed in the blood of the Lamb. Never again will they hunger or thirst and God Himself will wipe every tear from their eyes. Jesus will be their Shepherd and will lead them to springs of Living Water.:angel::angel:
Are you ready for the 1260-day Great Tribulation which may occur in 2013??
Posted : 5 Jan, 2013 05:30 AM
Thats the great thing about faith, As long as God is our focus of faith He still is pleased by all faith in Him. The one true God....
We stress about others faith but God does not. My goal is only to encourage faith in God.
Praise God for us who believe in the catching up at His glorious appearing and praise God for the faith of those who trust Him for a pretrib catching up.
We look to please you our God not for outward service of religion but from inward trust in you our God, genuine faith in you..........
Are you ready for the 1260-day Great Tribulation which may occur in 2013??
Posted : 5 Jan, 2013 05:46 AM
That is a great thought LTM, but one must know the one and only true God of the bible. Not the god man has created and you hear your spiritual leaders speak of for the pulpit you sit in front of Sunday after Sunday. You must study God from his word alone and rely on nothing except the Holy Spirit which God has given to teach and lead you into all knowledge of himself.
The fullest revelation that God is and what He is, is made in the person of Christ. "No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared" (1 John 1:18). But this knowledge of God is not a mere matter of intellectual apprehension, which one man can communicate to another. But it is a spiritual discernment, imparted by the Holy Spirit. God must shine in our hearts to give us that knowledge.~~~A.W. Pink
Are you ready for the 1260-day Great Tribulation which may occur in 2013??
Posted : 5 Jan, 2013 06:17 AM
Thats the great thing about faith, As long as God is our focus of faith He still is pleased by all faith in Him. The one true God....
That is not a statement that is of faith, faith is not a general statement, meaning you believe in God faith is always according to the word. knowledge of God and events thru his word.
We stress about others faith but God does not. My goal is only to encourage faith in God.
This person can have faith in god and die and go to hell
Praise God for us who believe in the catching up at His glorious appearing and praise God for the faith of those who trust Him for a pretrib catching up.
It would be impossible to praise him for a lie or opinion.
We look to please you our God not for outward service of religion but from inward trust in you our God, genuine faith in you..........
So know study the word of God concerning the rapture and allow him to open your eyes, there are many warnings about error on this topic, it is one of Satan's favorites at the time.
Are you ready for the 1260-day Great Tribulation which may occur in 2013??
Posted : 5 Jan, 2013 03:40 PM
TC,
For your personal knowledge. I have been studying and meditating on Gods word. KJV & NKJV for over a life time of almost 40 years.
I have poured my mind over many such scriptures concerning many such topics. Just because I chose not to seek to prove my understanding of scripture does not mean I do not have such.
When I referred to God being pleased by our faith. I was referring to those things we have dissagreement over not the plain and simple truths.
Obviously those who worship another God besides the true God of the Word is not pleasing to the true God.
So to clarify I was referring to side issue that really have little significance to me what you or any other believes.
Pretrib, post trib , mid trib, predestination election and all such.
I know what i believe and I do not need anyones approval of my faith because it is personal to me and God alone.
You may think as you please about my faith but untill you really take time to know me personally you are jumping to conclusions that you aught not.
Are you ready for the 1260-day Great Tribulation which may occur in 2013??
Posted : 5 Jan, 2013 04:27 PM
The word of God is not jumping to any conclusion, he said we shall know them by there fruit not me,
Our faith has a personal side to it yes.
\\\ but it was never meant to be hidden.
The truth about the rapture is not tribal it is life and death, just as the election theory is it is death as it is proclaimed and not to be proclaimed as truth, why because it could cuase some to doubt the truth, same as rapture theories.
Are you ready for the 1260-day Great Tribulation which may occur in 2013??
Posted : 5 Jan, 2013 04:39 PM
TC,
You are so certain you are right and so should you think because it is according to your faith.
Your faith not mine. My faith is my faith and your faith is yours. Get it??
Do you really get it?
Can you respect anothers faith even if you dissagree?
christians ( little C) are of those who show the littlest respect to individuals. People will not listen to you TC or any other without you showing respect to them. Anything you say is a lost cause until you learn how to respect ( LOVE)
Are you ready for the 1260-day Great Tribulation which may occur in 2013??
Posted : 5 Jan, 2013 04:41 PM
THE COMING OF OUR LORD JESUS AND OUR BEING GATHERED TO HIM WILL NOT OCCUR UNTIL THE MAN OF LAWLESSNESS IS REVEALED!!
����� 2 Thess 1:1; 2:1,3,8�� �To the *CHURCH* of the Thessalonians�Concerning the *COMING* of our Lord Jesus Christ and *OUR* being gathered to Him�Don�t let anyone deceive you in any way for *THAT DAY* will not come *UNTIL* the man of lawlessness is revealed!!... Then the lawless one will be revealed whom the Lord Jesus Christ will destroy with the splendor of His *COMING*!� So anyone who claims that the church saints will be gathered *BEFORE* the coming of the lawless one {666} is absolutely contradicting God�s inspired words!!�� This, of course, totally destroys the central pre-trib doctrine of the *IMMINENT* coming of Jesus! {That Jesus could come RIGHT NOW} Since the *COMING of Jesus in 2 Thess 2:8 is POST-TRIB then the *COMING of Jesus when *WE are gathered to Him in 2 Thess 2:3 must also be POST-TRIB since it is in the same context and obviously refers to the same day.
����� Mark 13:11: �When you are brought to trial {DURING THE GREAT TRIBULATION} do not worry about what to say, for it is not you speaking, but the *HOLY SPIRIT*.� This of course contradicts the ridiculous pre-trib idea that the Holy Spirit will be removed from the saints during the Great Tribulation. Mark 13 is a Tribulation chapter. The only weapon we may use is the sword of the Spirit {Eph 6:17} which is the Word of God.
������ Matthew 24:29-31: Jesus says, �Immediately after the distress of those {1260} days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light and the stars will fall from the sky.� {Luke 21:28 adds �When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.�} Then the nations will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky with power and great glory. And He will send His angels with a loud {7TH & LAST} *TRUMPET* CALL and they will gather *His elect* from the 4 winds {Mark 13:27b adds:} �from the ends of the earth {Saints on earth} to� the ends of the Heavens {Saints in Heaven}!!� JESUS WILL COME AGAIN WHEN THE *7TH* ANGEL SOUNDS THE LOUD *7TH* AND *LAST* TRUMPET CALL OF GOD.� Rev 11:15a, 18: �The *7TH* angel sounded his trumpet� and the time has come for judging the dead and for rewarding your servants the prophets and saints.� {See Rev 22:12; 2 Corinthians 5:10; Matt 25:31-46 & Rev 20:11-15}
Rev 10:7: �But in the days when the *7TH angel is about to sound his TRUMPET the *MYSTERY* of God will be accomplished!� I Cor 15:51:� �Listen, I tell you a *MYSTERY*!� We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed�in a flash, in a twinkling of an eye, at the *LAST* {Or *7TH*} trumpet.��� There are only 7 TRUMPETS in God�s Word during the Great Tribulation and the 7TH TRUMP is of course the *LAST TRUMP when the *MYSTERY* of God will be accomplished, and is also the TRUMPET CALL OF GOD in I Thess 4:16.
Are you ready for the 1260-day Great Tribulation which may occur in 2013??
Posted : 5 Jan, 2013 04:46 PM
you see been there done that..
I had the attitude of having it all figured out until I realised something beyond my pea brain.
That Gods word is always changing according to our understanding and perspective. Or should I say we are always changing in how we interpet and respond to Gods word.
It is a sad thing for someone to just camp on any particular doctine because Gods word it eternal and their are depths of thruth that we will only realise when we are home.
