Thread: John 1:13 You cannot make yourself to be born again. God is the one who saves, and God is the one who makes a person spiritually alive.
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John 1:13 You cannot make yourself to be born again. God is the one who saves, and God is the one who makes a person spiritually alive.
Posted : 19 Jan, 2012 06:58 AM
Regeneration is a sovereign work of God (Jn. 1:12-13; 3:3-8; Jas. 1:18; 1 Pet. 1:3) a radical work or total transformation (Ezek. 36:26-27; 1 Jn. 3:9) not just an addition...The SOURCE of regeneration is Christ (1 Pet 1:3; Eph 1:3, 2:4, 4:24; 2 Cor 5:17) The AGENT of regeneration is the Holy Spirit (Jn. 3:3-8; Titus 3:5) The INSTRUMENT of regeneration is the Word of God (Jas. 1:18; 1 Pet. 1:23, 25) which precedes and causes faith (Jn 6:63-65, 1 jn 5:1, Eph. 2:5; Col. 2:13)
"God effects a change which is radical and all-pervasive, a change which cannot be explained in terms of any combination, permutation or accumulation of human resources, a change which is nothing less than a new creation by Him who calls the things that be not as though they were, who spoke and it was done, whocommanded and it stood fast. This, in a word, is regeneration." - John Murray
Regeneration is the communication of the new heart to sinners by the operation of the Holy Spirit through the Word...a Christ-generated act of instantaneously communicating spiritual life to a man convicted of sin.
Regeneration is expressly denied to be of the will of the flesh, or of the will of man (John 1:13), and is ascribed to God himself. Not all men have faith in Christ; and those who do have it, have it not of themselves; it is the gift of God, worked out through the Redemption which is in Christ through the mighty operation of his Spirit, which is the fruit and effect of His invincible grace. This is because the natural man is wholly captive under the power and dominion of sin, and a slave unto it, and has neither a power nor will to believe the gospel of Jesus Christ apart from the regenerating work of the Holy Spirit.
Synergists teach that 'salvation depends on human will', but the Bible teaches that 'it depends not on human will or exertion, but on God, who has mercy." (Rom 9:16)
"And I will put my Spirit within you, and you shall live...Then you shall know that I am the LORD; I have spoken, and I will do it, declares the LORD." - Ezekiel 37:14
But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, made us alive [quickened us] with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions � it is by grace you have been saved. Ephesians 2:4-5
�It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh is of no avail. The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life. But there are some of you who do not believe.� (For Jesus knew from the beginning who those were who did not believe, and who it was who would betray him.) And he said, �This is why I told you that no one can come to me [i.e. believe in me] unless it is granted him by the Father.�
John 6:63-65
You have been born anew, not of perishable seed but but of imperishable, through the living and abiding word of God..."�
1 Peter 1:23-25
Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ has been born of God.
1 John 5:1
Faith in the living God and his Son Jesus Christ is always the result of the new birth, and can never exist except in the regenerate. Whoever has faith is a saved man.
Charles Spurgeon from the sermon �Faith and Regeneration�
If salvation is the implantation of a new, infinite life in the soul, it must be a work of God. Self-caused effects can never rise above the character or qualities of their cause. "Flesh gives birth to flesh but the Spirit gives birth to Spirit," Jesus told Nicodemus. This saving grace cannot be caused by the creature, it can only come from God.
John Hannah from To God be the Glory (pg. 34-5)
The inward offer is a kind of spiritual enlightenment, whereby the promises are presented to the hearts of men, as it were, by an inward word.
John 1:13 You cannot make yourself to be born again. God is the one who saves, and God is the one who makes a person spiritually alive.
Posted : 20 Jan, 2012 07:35 AM
Hey Jude:
I just love posting that,hahahahahahahahahaha.
The Scripture Yeshua says to 'REPENT,BELIEVE THE GOSPEL.
I will post the scripture in THREE translations.
Mark 1:7
(KJV) And preached, saying, There cometh one mightier than I after me, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to stoop down and unloose.
(KJV+) AndG2532 preached,G2784 saying,G3004 There comethG2064 oneG3588 mightierG2478 than IG3450 afterG3694 me,G3450 theG3588 latchetG2438 of whoseG848 shoesG5266 I(G3739) amG1510 notG3756 worthyG2425 to stoop downG2955 and unloose.G3089
(LITV) And he proclaimed, saying, He who comes after me is mightier than I, of whom I am not fit to stoop down to loosen the thong of His sandals.
(YLT) and he proclaimed, saying, `He doth come--who is mightier than I--after me, of whom I am not worthy--having stooped down--to loose the latchet of his sandals;
Why is Yeshua telling the Jews to believe the Gospel,it should be obvious.
They were not believing the Gospel.
Yeshua has told the Jews to turn from not believing the Gospel,to Believing the Gospel.
John 1:13 You cannot make yourself to be born again. God is the one who saves, and God is the one who makes a person spiritually alive.
Posted : 20 Jan, 2012 07:56 AM
phillipjohn Posted : 20 Jan, 2012 07:28 AM
Agapeton that is simply your opinion and that is
not of any value to the body of christ.
ME: Considering I posted Scripture along with known and accepted Greek terminology of what the word of repent means and you've not once reconciled your statement with Scripture to show for it, it would stand that all you have stated is nothing BUT opinion, brother.
Everything is in line with scripture and you will
not see it until you come into agreement with
scripture.
ME: Um, bro, I've yet to see anything from you to prove your point, much less A point for that matter. So how can one, namely the silent reader, come to an agreement if you have given nothing but the air to beat at? Kind of pointless to make a point without any reference to point it out, brother. Get my point? If not, then I can point you out to it.
Any bible student of the word could take you to
scripture that proclaims everything i said but
they would be scripture's that you by reason say
are not true.
ME: And yet, a seasoned Bible scholar and student like you can't. So what are you trying to say then, brother PJ? Are you saying that your not a student of the Word because you can't do it? Ok. Fair enough. Thanks for clarifying it, so that I now know, to file your comments somewhere.
The faul is not with the one that believes the word
of God.
ME: You're right. It isn't. That is why I posted the Word of God to you to show your unbelief within reason and you proved it by doubting.
You can not believe with your mind.
ME: Bro, I'm honestly starting to doubt all that you say because it comes from nothing but your mind.
John 1:13 You cannot make yourself to be born again. God is the one who saves, and God is the one who makes a person spiritually alive.
Posted : 20 Jan, 2012 08:15 AM
Hey jude:
My bad,hahahahahahahahahahaha.
I should have rested after work before copying and pasting.
Mark 1:15
(KJV) And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
(KJV+) AndG2532 saying,G3004 TheG3588 timeG2540 is fulfilled,G4137 andG2532 theG3588 kingdomG932 of GodG2316 is at hand:G1448 repentG3340 ye, andG2532 believeG4100 theG3588 gospel.G2098
(LITV) and saying, The time has been fulfilled, and the kingdom of God draws near. Repent and believe in the gospel.
(YLT) and saying--`Fulfilled hath been the time, and the reign of God hath come nigh, reform ye, and believe in the good news.'
John 1:13 You cannot make yourself to be born again. God is the one who saves, and God is the one who makes a person spiritually alive.
Posted : 20 Jan, 2012 08:54 AM
Agapeton ~ The Scripture I have posted and asked George and you to show us All is�
Mar 1:14 And after John was delivered up, Jesus came into Galilee proclaiming the gospel of the kingdom of God,
Mar 1:15 and saying, The time has been fulfilled, and the kingdom of God draws near. Repent and believe in the gospel.
*** Was Jesus in the Synagogue here? The scripture says what it says�Jesus came into the [ city of Galilee ] proclaiming the �gospel of the �kingdom of GOD��and saying, �The time has been fulfilled, and the kingdom of God draws near. [[[ Repent and believe in the gospel. ]]]�There is doubt Gentiles were present as they followed Him everywhere�Christ Jesus is Proclaiming to Hebrews & Gentiles!!!
And George has Yet to show in this Scripture where it says Repent of �UNBIELF��cuz that Word is not in this Scripture�.ya see Agapeton�some people like to Add their [ own ] words to Scripture that are not there and then Re-direct to other Scriptures out of Context to prove their point�that�s not Sound Biblical teaching�And I believe you have done the same thing by Re-directing to Matthew�Open your Bible please�In the Reference column of Mark 1is there a reference to the Scriptures you have listed for Matthew ? I don�t believe there is�Because its not referring to the same Moment nor Context of the Scripture�and yes I did post
Mark 6:12~ �And they went out, and preached that men should [ repent.�]�This is the Same Repent that Jesus first Spoke and Proclaimed in Galilee�What is So hard to Understand here ???�
Agapeton shared ~ The text is pretty clear in the Gospels. Is it not?
*** Yes !!!�it sure is�Praise GOD !!!
James shared ~ John 1:13 ~ who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God. YOU are telling us that is all wrong, and a person makes theirself to be born again by their free will?
*** No James�I never said that�you are saying that and I believe asking me to clairify ???�I said on page 1 *** �Being born of the Spirit of GOD�that�s the Holy Spirit�and it comes from GOD�...where do you get me saying man can �regenerate� himself of free will ???�.you don�t !!!�Are you desiring to Debate Regeneration Proceeds Faith with me ???�You already know where I stand on it and I disagree with you�so�why Argue it ???�
So Anywho�I apologize to you James for Hi~Jackin your Topic of Regeneration by GOD to Repentance of man� I should have started a New Thread�Please forgive me brother�Yall hava a GOD HolySpirit Filled day�xo
John 1:13 You cannot make yourself to be born again. God is the one who saves, and God is the one who makes a person spiritually alive.
Posted : 20 Jan, 2012 12:07 PM
Excuse me James...I have one more post for George...
I BELIEVE in Christ Jesus...I'm Born Again of Spirit...SO what is it I or Anyone must "See" in this Scripture that is NOT There ???...Do I "Repent" of "Unbelief" now that I Beleive in Christ Jesus ?...:rolleyes:...or...maybe Not seeing the word "Unbelief" in this Scripture...or...how about... "Unbielf" that I and Everyone is a Sinner ???...Come on George...yer Tap Dancing here...xo
