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Posted : 30 Dec, 2011 05:03 AM

Hey Jude;Love ya



1Pe 2:9 But you are "an elect race," "a royal priesthood," "a holy nation," "a people for possession," so that "you may openly speak of the virtues" of the One who has called you out of darkness into His marvelous light; LXX-Ex. 23:22; MT-Ex. 19:5, 6







If you were to be asking a person that calls themself a christian,this question.

'What exactly is the "Priesthood of ALL Believers',maybe 95-99% of the people would have no idea what you were talking about..



The same thing would probably go for Biblical Imputation.



IF the AMERICAN believers had been taught the Priesthood of believers,we might be seeing a different type of America.

We would also be seeing a different type of Believer today,then what is seen.





IF,the believers in America had been understanding their POSITION as Kings and Priests in Yeshua,

MAYBE the believers might not have been HOOD-WINKED by the charlitans,which have taken the believers and brought them back under bondage to rules and regulations of men,

Namely the LEVITICAL PRIESTHOOD.



Example:

Joh 8:36 Therefore, if the Son sets you free, you are free indeed.

When people meet together,this freedom allows men and women to OPENLY worship Yeshua in spirit and in truth.

This freedom is found in 1st Corinthians chapters 11-14,where there is no mention of ANYONE other than Yeshua leading His people to Breka Bread in Remembrance of Himself.

And to be Worthshipping in spirit and in truth.



This worthship does not include an ORGANIZED BAND.

Nor is there any mention of a single man saying 'LET US WORSHIP'.

With a band present the 'LET US' Never has a chance,seeing that the meeting has been PREarranged so as to keep the people in the dark about the Preisthood of all believers.



Prayer is vitale as believers meet,yet once again for most believers one man says 'LET US PRAY'. And once again this same man prays for the people,as though he is the priest representing everyone before YHWH.

Can anyone say,Hey a modern Moses.



The Priesthood of believers is set before us as the means of avoiding going back under bondage to the Old Covenant Priesthood,from which Yeshua has brought His people out from being under..



Yet MOST people in America have NEVER heard of this extremely important issue.



The charlitans tickle the ears of the people with the ideas of becoming HeaLlthy,wealthy and wise,just by reciting a few words the charlitans tell them.



Also these mandates are placed upon others,which when the people cannot live up to these then the people are told that they are 'SINNERS' needing to repent,and be saved.

Do not drink alcoholic drinks.

No dancing

No drugs

No sex before marriage

Do not associate yourselves with such people.



You must live Holy

You must sanctify yourselves befor YHWH

You must be Perfect as YHWH is perfect

You must tithe

And these people just heap burden upon burden upon the people to keep them from the truth of who They are in Yeshua,namely Kings and Priests of the Most High GOD..



Yet Yeshua clearly says:



Mat 11:28 Come to Me, all those laboring and being burdened, and I will give you rest.

Mat 11:29 Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, because I am meek and lowly in heart, "and you will find rest to your souls." Jer. 6:16

Mat 11:30 For My yoke is easy, and My burden is light.



During the Old Covenent 10 men were necessary to have a synagouge,this is still practised by Hebrew men today.

Yet Yeshua changed this when He declared.

Mat 18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in My name, there I am in their midst.



The necessity of having 10 men is done away with.

With the priesthood of believers,only 2 people are necessary for the following,and guess what,one of these people does not have to be a senior pastor,pastor,elder or deacon,and no Worship Band is necessary.



Break bread

Worship Together

Fellowship Together

Pray Together

Study the Word together

Evangelising together

Everything the gathered assembly can do,these two people are able to do the same.



Does anyone see the necessity for this vitale Doctrine to being taught within the assembly of the believers in Yeshua.



Yet alas,most will continue believing that the way they are meeting is what is taught in the Word of YHWH..



Most will continue being in bondage to the dictates of men which continue tickling the ears of the masses.

By not teaching the Priesthood of ALL believers to the people,the charlitans continue to keep the masses in bondage to the teachings of men.



Had the people been taught who they are in Yeshua,as Kings and Priests,maybe these Charlitans would be run out of the Assemblies of the believers,

Maybe the men which should be elders,would then be teaching and instructing the believers unto the things of YHWH in Yeshua.



Maybe there would be Freedom amongst the Believers as intended by Yeshua.



Maybe the Love of many might increase,instead of decrease.



Maybe we might even see the return of the Holy Spirit manifesting His life to the believers...





I have said enough about this,as i have been involved with Believers in Philadelphia.PA;

Which had met together according to Biblical Principles.





I hope everyone has a Blessed and safe weekend



Shalom and Chesed

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Posted : 30 Dec, 2011 05:05 PM

If i had to go to 'church',i would be bored out of my mind.



The 'church' is a spectator event.



You are not expected to bring anything from the Word of YHWH to be 'PUBLICLY sharing,

As the entire event has been staged,picked out,and orchestrated,so that the people which show,have no personal responsibility to those around them.



Church is a not a living organism.



The body of Yeshua is,there is an extremely big difference.



At least where i assemble with the believers,the Word of YHWH is proclaimed amongst the brethren.

There is not just one man that brings a message.



1Co 14:23 Then if the whole assembly comes together, and all speak in tongues, and uninstructed ones or unbelievers come in, will they not say that you rave?

1Co 14:24 But if all prophesy, and some unbeliever or one not instructed comes in, he is convicted by all, he is judged by all.

1Co 14:25 And so the secrets of his heart become revealed; and so, falling on his face, he will worship God, declaring that God is truly among you.

1Co 14:26 Then what is it, brothers? When you come together, each one of you has a psalm, he has a teaching, he has a language, he has a revelation, he has an interpretation. Let all things be for building up.

1Co 14:27 If one speaks in a language, let it be by two or three at the most, and in turn, also let one interpret.

1Co 14:28 And if there is no interpreter, let him be silent in the assembly, and let him speak to himself and to God.

1Co 14:29 And if there are two or three prophets, let them speak, and let the others discern.

1Co 14:30 But if a revelation is revealed to another sitting by, let the first be silent.

1Co 14:31 For you can all prophesy one by one, that all may learn, and all may be encouraged.

1Co 14:32 And the spirits of prophets are subject to prophets.

1Co 14:33 For God is not of confusion, but of peace, as in all the assemblies of the saints.





The afore posted Scriptures are how the assemblies of believers should be meeting.



Yet alas too many meet according to the ways of man,not the Word of YHWH.



Maybe this is one of the reasons the Holy SPirit has been grieved to where He does not make His presence known as in days of old.



Shalom

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Posted : 30 Dec, 2011 05:22 PM

Well George you have violated your own doctrine the context you posted was written to believers that had received the baptism with the Holy Ghost and spoke in tongues.

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Posted : 30 Dec, 2011 05:29 PM

Hey phil:



Glad you could join the fun.

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Posted : 30 Dec, 2011 06:00 PM

OH I was at work whilke you guys was debatin but I would like to say:ROFL:George what church are you going to? or are you refering to??? I have never been to a church that has a "band" I attendeed one back home that had a chior however before they sang with a piano playing we the congrigation sang! and furthermore:ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:



Have you ever been in a PENTECOSTAL CHURCH during prayer??? BAHAHAHAHA !!! well I will tell you it is not one man praying for us all thats for sure:ROFL:



and as far as nobody having any input!! well you only think that cause you have never been in the wed night services at the churches I attended they are usuualy a testimony service before the preaching where people can stand and say what God has shown them or somwehting great he has done that week! and at the church I attenmd here in opp alabama on wensday nights we have bible study and we are encoraged to ask questions and inmput things into the lesson! AND TO TOP ITR ALL OFF afyter EVEY SERVICE beforwe we close and are dismessed we have a time where we take up prayer requests and give praise reports!



SO GEORGE SO MUCH FOR WHAT YOU THINK YOU KNOW ABOUT "ORGINIZED RELIGION" you couldnt be more wrong or way off base than you are about your asumptions when you have attend every church in the states then you can make these kinds of asumptions but you cant make them now cause you have no idea what goes on inmost or even a small percentage of churches all you know is what you have seen and that obviuosly isnt very much

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Posted : 30 Dec, 2011 06:15 PM

Hey elisha:



Thank you for your reply.



May i ask;



Does the fellowship break bread whenever they meet,or is this done on a monthly basis.



If this is not done whenever you meet together,then the fellowship is violating the Scriptural mandate.



Then this too becomes a spectators event,with no active participation,on the part of the people.

Other then to eat the crackers and drink the juice..



Act 2:42 And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.







1Co 11:23 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread:

1Co 11:24 And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.

1Co 11:25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.

1Co 11:26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come.





Shalom

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Posted : 30 Dec, 2011 08:35 PM

Elisha, Elisha, you are not using your gift of discenring what George is saying...

George got KICKED OUT OF THE PRAISE BAND 40 YEARS AGO AND HE HAS BEEN ANGRY EVER SINCE AT THE PASTOR AND THE CHURCH AND BANDS MEMBERS ON THE CHURCH PRAISE TEAM!...:ROFL::excited:

Grrrrrl, get his drift and read between the lines of what George is saying...:ROFL: him soooooo maaaad momma!:ROFL::bouncy::peace:... pooooo baby!:ROFL:

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Posted : 30 Dec, 2011 09:38 PM

oh girl, you killen me!!! !!

George man shall not live by bread alone but by every word tha proceeds out of the mouth of God!!

This is the bread we break at the church I attend!

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Posted : 31 Dec, 2011 12:48 AM

Hey ella:



Too funnnnnnnnnny,way toooo fuuuunnnnnyyyyyy.

Hahahahahahahahahahaha.



Nope just asking why the 'church' is not as the first century body.



Yeshua did not change,it was the so-called leaders which have 'changed' the Word of YHWH,to fit there own beliefs.

Then they pushed these beliefs upon the people.



Did not Yeshua warn the people about this when He exhorted them to 'Keep' His word.



Joh 14:23 Jesus answered and said to him, If anyone loves Me, he will keep My Word, and My Father shall love him. And We will come to him and will make a dwelling place with him.

Joh 14:24 The one who does not love Me does not keep My Words. And the Word which you hear is not Mine but of the Father who sent Me.



To 'KEEP' the word of YHWH is to not change the Word,and to guard the Word from being altered.



To 'keep' does not necessarily mean to 'Obey'.



Shalom

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Posted : 31 Dec, 2011 04:54 AM

george try keeping it without obeying



Try being a doer of the word without obeying it.



Try fulfilling the scripture the just shall live by faith, without obedience.



Btw who did the priest give the tithes to?

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Posted : 31 Dec, 2011 08:18 AM

Hey Phil

Good Morning young man,

How are you this fine day?



Psa 118:24 This is the day Jehovah hath made, We rejoice and are glad in it.



I have a question to you.



Has the Word of YHWH been altered,through the translations.



If so,then why are the believers still using the distorted translations.

Why have they not gone back to the ORIGINAL languages in order to study,teach and meet together in.



Shalom

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