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GOD will "lead" through women too.
Posted : 11 Jan, 2009 02:24 PM

Once again, we are faced with this "men are the spiritual leaders of their homes, priests of the home, head of the house nonsense.



God is the head of any christian home or you have lost connection with the head, further, the Lord Himeself is NOW calling women to "lead" so men, be ye not deceived, for GOD is the ONLY leader.



WOMEN OF GOD DARE TO RISE UP AGAINST THE DEVIL AND HIS FALSE DOCTRINES!



I AM RISEN WITH CHRIST AND THE DEVIL IS A DEFEATED FOE AND A CRUSHED WORM BY THE BLOOD OF CHRIST AND THE POWER OF HIS HOLY NAME.



I WILL NOT BE SILENT!



This is a Word from the Lord from my Pastor who is a man and a Prophet of God;



The Spirit of God says there is an unbelievable to some, force, a gale force, being released to come and to wipe away; to come to restore. I have heard you inviting Me. So many things were taken illegally by forces that did what they did to the Son of the Most High God.



For had they known the mystery of God they would not have crucified the Lord on High. Had they known the mystery of God they would not have attempted to come against your children, against your homes, against your business, your finance, your hearts, your emotions.



Had they known the mystery of God they would not have endeavored to crucify what was rightfully yours.



They endeavored to crucify your righteousness, they endeavored to crucify and remove and bury what was rightfully yours.



The Spirit of God says, you are surrounded by a great cloud of witness, the greats of yesterday that stood out amongst men, amongst royalty and made a difference, are surrounding you.



For there was a sound in each one of their spirits when they faced the giants of their time - that sound exists in this generation of women, says the Lord of Hosts.



This sound is a sound of tenderness, this sound is a sound of bold gentleness.



This sound is a sound that has petrified the powers of hell for this same sound existed within Esther. The same sound existed within Deborah.



The same sound existed in Mary when the Rock came forth and Satan has watched the women of this generation and said "no more" but the Spirit of God says, they will arise, and when they arise they will bring forth the Rock Christ Jesus again!



As a prophet I have heard the sound: in this day and this year of acceleration of women suddenly accelerating and touching the untouchable, reaching the unreachable.



That's what I saw and God said, tell these women, you are the instigators and the initiators of this movement that is about to touch the entire earth.



It has been some time now, says the Lord, that I have focused My attention once again on the women to bring forth the Word, the Rock.



It has been a while now that I have looked for a sound to come from a place where women would arise not with temperament, but with character, with virtue, a sound that would come from them for one reason: God, Your will be done on earth as it is in Heaven. And Lord, what you are dictating in Heaven right now, we want to perform on earth - this is their prayer.



Surely that which belongs to the Lord and belongs to you can not be taken and if it is put into the hands of your enemy it will only be returned to you with double power and with greater might.



For God says there is an element of resurrection that has not yet been released; That element of resurrection is now emerging from the heavenlies through an open veil.



A veil that was once shut by the unbelief of men and by the many, many that would persuade people to say that the future is not important.



I am taking now that which is emerging, the element of the resurrection, that the church has not yet had; the resurrection of the dead, the resurrection of things that have been taken, the resurrection of things that have been destroyed; the resurrection.



God says it has appeared before, it has appeared as a visitation but now it shall come as a habitation.



It has appeared before in little moments and in little spurts. But now God says like a gale force it is coming and it can not repent and it can not be taken back.



It can not be withdrawn and once it comes from the heavens you will see things that you thought you lost coming back to you with 10 times the power and 10 times the resources and 10 times the authority.



This is the night for the 10 time restoration says the Spirit of God. Rejoice for this is the Word of the Lord to you. The heavens are opened up.



The people of God make this declaration tonight we tolerate no force of evil in the church.



Religion has chased our children away. But now our children will say we want to go to church. You hear what I�m saying. Those that are two years of age this day will not be as you and I were and the teenagers of this day are we don�t want to go to church. You can not blame them can you? God said I�m changing the whole thing in church.



God said everyone that tries to control Me, I�ll break their hands, I�ll break their feet so that they will have no power to control.



Because this day I say to you, your children will say we want to go to church. Your grandchildren will say why have they stopped us? No they have not stopped you.



Religion has stopped you but that has come to an end. Rejoice, as for you and your house, you will serve the Lord.



I am looking for some warriors, says the Lord, and they are in your families - they are your children and they are the women of this generation!.



These are the ones that will stand before the kings just like Esther did.



And God said, these are the ones who change history just like Deborah.



These are the ones that will change history just like Ruth and Mary and Elizabeth.



God said, your girls are going to become women of God and they are going to become virtuous women who will prophesy to the dead bones of this society.



I am going to raise up your children and they shall be the ones who will stand before the Lord and say, "God, here I am, send me, and send me wherever You want me to go. Send me, send me wherever You want me to go. Send me, send me wherever You want me to go, send me. "



I have made a place only for you next to Me. I have a made a place by My side.



And now He's saying there's a place I've created for you. Just like He told Moses, He said, there is a place by My side, there is a place by My side and by My side is a Rock and in that Rock is a cleft. By the Rock, but in the Rock there is a cleft.



The Spirit of God says, I will place you in the cleft so I can show you the glory of tomorrow.



My altar is open for you and your house. If you desire this that I have promised, come to My altar, stand before Me, says the Lord, you, your children, your family and I will give you that promise, says the Spirit of God.



Right by My side there is a place for you. Right by My side there is a place for you in the Rock, My Son. Right by My side there is a place for you in the Rock, My Son. Right by My side there is a place for you in the Rock, My Son.



In the Rock, My house.



Right in My heart, there is a place for you in the Rock, in My house.



Right next to Me there is a place for you in the Rock in My heart.

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Posted : 14 Jan, 2009 11:53 AM

Hi Brother Leon,



Thank you and glory be to God.



There is no question we are in the last days as False teachings are growing more rampent and False Teachers and False Prophets abound not to mention that many more Christans are allowing themselves to be deceived by these heretics.



2Tim 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers;

4 and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables. NKJV





Let us pray and stand bold for our Christ!



Blessings!

Walter

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Posted : 14 Jan, 2009 11:56 AM

Very well; if he is not a Prophet of God, then we will wait to see if what He says comes to pass or not.



He is a prophet of God of course and you are not, nether do you understand the Word of God.



So, if you do know God, then you yourself have a relationship with Him and you can talk to Him, therefore talk to Him and give a Word from Him.



Yes, give us a Word then since you are so very intimate with Him and know Him.



Tell us what is to come.

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Posted : 14 Jan, 2009 12:03 PM

QUOTE: There is much debate between Charismatic Churches and Conservative Churches concerning the issue of the role of women in the Church particularly when it comes to leadership positions such as Pastor/Bishops, Deacons and Elders. I believe that God�s word is absolutely clear on this issue. Let�s see what it says.



1Corinthians 14:34 the women must keep silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak out, but must place themselves in submission, as the law also says.

35 If they want to learn anything, they should ask their own husbands at home, for it is inappropriate for a woman to speak out in church.

36 Did God's word originate with you? Are you the only people it has reached?

37 If anyone thinks he is a prophet or a spiritual person, he must acknowledge that what I am writing to you is the Lord's command.

But if anyone ignores this, he should be ignored. (ISV)



Above we see that Paul, considered to be the Apostle to the Gentiles, is addressing Christians and women�s obligations within the Church environment. Paul was not prejudiced against women as some claim. I want you to notice what Paul says in verse 37.

That the things he writes are the Lord�s Command.

Not a suggestion and not just something for the current times he was writing in but are a commandment of Christ the Lord. This means for all time. It is not a cultural thing as some in the Charismatic churches claim.



Dave:

No but it is a Tongues thing. If you read the entire chapter you know the context is all about tongues and having to do with order in the church. If you do not have tongues or what they call Charismatic gifts, why try to stretch this scripture into women vs. men. To say, �women must keep silent in the churches,� is clearly taking it out of context. If anything it means women should not be dominating the men or the meeting with an endless laundry list of questions. She should talk to her husband rather than try to corner the preacher for long Q & A sessions.

The root word for Charismatic is the same as the word for Grace or Gift. Why say there is a debate between Charismatic Churches and Conservative Churches? Is it an attempt to mark �Charismatic� Churches as liberal Churches? I know of many very Conservative Charismatic Churches. How is it possible for any �Christian� church to be non Charismatic? Do these so-called non Charismatic but Conservative Churches have Grace and/ or the gift of God? It sounds as if there is a much bigger division here than the so-called women in the church debate.

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Posted : 14 Jan, 2009 02:13 PM

HISWARRIOR, if you are supposed to speak out, then speak out against darkness; speak out on the rooftops; go minister to non-believers. Go!!! What is stopping you, go, stop fighting with your brothers and sisters about this matter. Go be practical, go tie the wounds of the hurt; go feed the homeless; go reach out to battered women. Go!!! Be Blessed in this. For Christs sake, please stop arguing, stop splitting His body...if your pastor had this revelation, then so be it. If people are not listening to you, then stop throwing your riches around for those that do not accept and respect it.



No one is stopping you from serving the unbelievers. This arguing is not getting anyone anywhere. Please receive this as a exhortation, as an encouragement.



God Bless you sister.



Vlad.

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Posted : 14 Jan, 2009 02:58 PM

Actuallly, I do all these things; I have a great ministry; I feed the hungry, provide shelter and clothing for the homeless and preach the gospel to battered women.



I have won many lost souls to the Kingdom just this last year alone, I will keep doing this, yes I will, thank you for the encoragement.



I do these things and I WORK a job to be able to help and to provide, I give out of my resources which I earn, I am not dependent upon "ministry gifts" or "love gifts" to support my work.



It is the Lord my God who gives me the power to get wealth, it is obvious to those around me that He is well pleased with what I do for He gives even more to me that I am able to be a blessing to Him by helping those in need.



And I will not keep silent, I can write here as well as anyone else, and am free to do so.



How do you know then, who will come in and maybe get set free from bondage because of these posts?



I will continue to work to set women and men free from the bondage of a falsehood, this I will do so long as the Lord will enable me.



If you do not like what I say, simply do not respond, you have the right to remain silent yourself.



Further, I did say on anonther post;



AND FOR THOSE OF YOU IN A POSITON OF SO CALLED LEADERSHIP, THIS I SAY TO YOU;



Very well then, in that case, let it be that these men who are so qualified to lead, let them now show their ABILITY to do such.



Leading is much more than just quoting Scripture, it is also HEARING GOD.



Therefore, let them tell us then, what the Lord is saying, what are the Lord's plans then for america, for His people, what is it He is saying will be?



Without a vision the people perish, let them share the vision of the Lord then, let them tell us what is coming that we may be encouraged. The quoting of Scripture is NOT enough to be a leader, you must HEAR GOD, so quoting it won't cut it.



Tell us leaders, let us know then if you lead, let us know what the Lord is saying now since you are so close to Him and you say He has appointed you, tell us what the Lord is saying then, for He never appointed anyone to lead and then not tell them which direction to lead in.



I wait to hear, what the Lord says and not by the simple quoting of what you like to hear yourself, but what the Lord will say to you.



What is in the future? You should know, because you claim God appointed you to lead, so tell us then mighty leaders, what is the Word of the Lord today?



Speak then I say, tell us great leader what the Lord is saying.



Like I said, God never appointed any leader whom He does not also give direction to, so tell us.........





God bless you.

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Posted : 14 Jan, 2009 05:53 PM

Amen!

Leon tell it like it is. As a very assertive woman I require a strong leader and am finding a lot of Men not wanting to lead. This is sad. I want a man that I can respect and submit to. And I have recently met a man on this sight who says he does not like Pauls teaching and does not believe it should be followed. Why are so many men so reluctant to accept their responsibility to be leaders?

Blessings, Jesusfreak47

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Posted : 14 Jan, 2009 07:46 PM

You really don't want to know what is ahead for America for the next two years. I will advise everyone to plant a garden, but I am not going to get into it here.



Yes, being a leader is about more than quoting scripture, and I want to commend you for the things you are doing, I think that is great, and you will be rewarded for it. It is something we are all called to do, but few of us actually act upon.



Many men today are afraid to be men. They have been told by society and feminists for so long that it is wrong for them to lead, that they have no idea what to do any longer. And to make matters worse, you can find a church out there that will tell you that the whole world has it wrong, but they know the truth. Then the twisting starts.



We have a homosexual bishop saying a prayer at the inauguration. Sin is sin, but this is an unrepentant sin. How can you justify ordaining someone who has no intention of trying to stop sinning? Well, someone did. And that is just one example. I guess I could start a church who says it is okay to murder, because the Bible says there is a time to kill. Our churches have to stop telling people what they want to hear, and start telling the truth.



Blessings,

Leon

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Posted : 14 Jan, 2009 08:06 PM

I wish to be clear; I am not saying men cannot lead, but I am saying that anyone who does lead, (Biblically of course) does so by the Spirit of God and women are led by His Spirit also.



Women are not dependant upon a man for leadership, but the Holy Spirit Himself.



Luke 4 (King James Version)





43 And he said unto them, I must preach the kingdom of God to other cities also: for therefore am I sent.



44 And he preached in the synagogues of Galilee.



In John 14:12 Jesus said, "I tell you the truth, anyone who has faith in me will do what I have been doing. He will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father."



Not just men, but anyone, this includes women; they also shall do all that He did and greater things than these for He lives in us too, by His Spirit.

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Posted : 14 Jan, 2009 10:02 PM

Hi Hiswarrior, (HW)



YOU said: Posted : 14 Jan, 2009 11:56 AM



(HW) "Very well; if he is not a Prophet of God, then we will wait to see if what He says comes to pass or not."



Walter: No need to wait as I have demonstrated through clear well exegeted scriptures that your Pastor speaks against God's written word. Your Pastor is either grossly ignorant of God's word or he is a False Prophet and a False Teacher or all three which is most likely the case. If he was speaking for God, which we know he is NOT, then what he says would line up perfectly with God's written word, which it does NOT. However we can see clearly that what he speaks contradicts God's word. It is a shame that you are unable to discern this. It is a shame that the Elders in your Church did not denounce him for this. What does that say about the leadership of your church.



2Tim 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers;

4 and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables. NKJV





(HW) He is a prophet of God of course and you are not, nether do you understand the Word of God.



Walter: You say I do not understand God's word. Please demonstrate for all to see where what I have presented in scripture is in error. As far as being a Prophet of God I am not and that is no big deal as neither is your Pastor who has exposed himself as being a False Teacher.



(HW) So, if you do know God, then you yourself have a relationship with Him and you can talk to Him, therefore talk to Him and give a Word from Him.



Yes, give us a Word then since you are so very intimate with Him and know Him.



Tell us what is to come."



Walter: Are you challenging my Salvation? If a person questions the personal relationship he/she has with God and Christ Jesus without any reason or proof then that is arrogance!



God gave us His written word so we would know what is to come. A person need not be a so called "Prophet" to understand prophesy. God gives us wisdom for those who ask it of Him and He gives it abundantly.



James 1:5 If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask of God, who gives to all liberally and without reproach, and it will be given to him. NKJV



The problem I see here in my opinion, is that you have a rebellious spirit because you will not accept God's written word regarding submitting to a husband AS we are supposed to be submissive to Christ.



If you get married will you submit to your husband AS unto the Lord, in ALL things?



Please also demonstrate with clear scriptures where a woman is permitted to be a Pastor, an Elder or a Bishop. They are not. Can you accept this Biblical, God Given Christ commanded scriptures in the NEW Testament?



I presented you with sound, clear NEW Testament teachings NOT Old Testament teachings under the Law. What I presented was Church doctrine for today and yet you cannot accept it nor are you able to refute it.



Grace to you!

In Christ,

Walter

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Posted : 15 Jan, 2009 08:51 AM

I see, well, I would be very careful about calling someone a false teacher my friend, for he is not a teacher, but a Prophet of God.



No matter, for God Himself will do as He pleases and He is calling His women; no man can shut the door He has opened and I am waiting for that glorious day to shine forth!



Luke 4 (King James Version)





43 And he said unto them, I must preach the kingdom of God to other cities also: for therefore am I sent.



44 And he preached in the synagogues of Galilee.



In John 14:12 Jesus said, "I tell you the truth, anyone who has faith in me will do what I have been doing. He will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father."



Not just men, but anyone, this includes women; they also shall do all that He did and greater things than these for He lives in us too, by His Spirit.



The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,

To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.





I guess you will say this is written only to men; Of course it is not, lol.



what you do not understand is the scripture you quote; it is for the Jews, but I will no longer elaborate on this, for I know what the Lord said and that is good enough for me and my house.

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