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Persecution has benefits!
Posted : 19 Jun, 2011 12:58 PM

The 'church' in America ( oops)The Homeland,has not faced any type of Persecution,that would cause any type of change,such as the first century CHURCH went through.



Persecution strengthens the believers,yet without Presecution,the believers in this country are weak,and fearful,even of being Persecuted.



Persecution seperates the Wheat from the chaff.

When persecution arises because of Yeshua and his Word,the chaff quickly falls away.

During times of Persecution,believers have lost this worlds goods,yet have faithed into Yeshua.



When persection arises here,will the believers be willing to lose everything,even their lives.



Persecution reveals true and false Teachers,Prophets,

Teachings,and false Gospels.

It also reveals false Messiahs.



Persection reavels what each person believes.



Persecution is promised to the believers.

Joh 15:20 Remember the Word which I said to you, A slave is not greater than his lord. If they persecuted Me, they also will persecute you. If they kept My Word, they also will keep yours.





Since Persecution has so many benefits,i have this Question for the Professing Christians.



WHy does the 'church' in America ( The Homeland)avoid Persection at all costs.

At the cost of losing all things in this life,

And the cost of losing ones life.



Could it be possible that the 'church' in the West might be those labled as DWELLING UPON THE EARTH.



Just some thoughts today.



I hope that everyone has a Blessed and safe week.



Shalom

Mr.Meanie to some

To others Mr.Merciful



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Posted : 20 Jun, 2011 01:24 PM

Prophet tell all how many raptures there are?

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Posted : 20 Jun, 2011 02:24 PM

Phillipjohn asked:



Prophet How may raptures will there be??



Actually the word "rapture" is not mentioned in God's Word. And so there will be ZERO raptures and Just one resurrection of God's saints on the Last Day of the coming 1260-day Great Tribulation. And so I am just another Post-Tribber like Jesus, John, Paul and Daniel.:angel::applause::peace:



2 Thess 1:1,6-10:� �To the *CHURCH* of the Thessalonians�God is just; He will pay back trouble to those who trouble you and give relief to you who are troubled, and to us as well.� This will happen *WHEN* the Lord Jesus is *REVEALED* {See I Peter 1:13} from heaven in blazing fire with His powerful angels.� He will punish those who do not know God and do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus.� They will be punished with everlasting *DESTRUCTION* and shut out from the presence of the Lord *ON THE DAY HE COMES* to be glorified in His holy people!!�:applause:



I Cor 15:20-24: �But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the FIRSTFRUITS of those who have fallen asleep...For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive. But each in his own turn: Christ the FIRSTFRUITS; then when He comes, **THOSE WHO BELONG TO HIM**. {*THEN*} the {*END*} will come, when He hands over the kingdom to God the Father after He has destroyed all dominion, authority and power.�



2 Peter 7,10,13: �The present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the Day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men... But the DAY OF THE LORD {See I Cor 1:7,8} will come like a thief.{To unbelievers-I Thess 5:4,5} The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything in it will be burned up... But in keeping with His promise we are looking forward to a NEW HEAVEN and a NEW EARTH, the Home of righteousness.� :peace:



Rev 21 1:1-3: Then I saw a NEW HEAVEN and a NEW EARTH, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. {THEN} I saw the NEW JERUSALEM, coming down out of heaven from God...,And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, �Now the dwelling of God is with men:rolleyes:, and He will live with them!!� You will note that the New Jerusalem will come only *AFTER the present heaven and earth have passed away on the DAY OF THE LORD! Read Hebrews 11:10, 14-16 & John 14:1-3.

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Posted : 20 Jun, 2011 02:27 PM

Prophet did you notice grandfather is not in the bible either?



The christian that is presently alive in God would not be in the post trib, but thanks for your answer.

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Posted : 20 Jun, 2011 03:46 PM

WE ARE ALL EAGERLY WAITING FOR OUR GLORIOUS ETERNAL RENDEZVOUS WITH JESUS! �



I Peter 1:13: �Therefore, prepare your minds for ACTION, and set your hope *FULLY* on the grace to be given YOU when Jesus Christ is *REVEALED*. I Cor 1:7: �YOU do not lack any spiritual gift as YOU eagerly wait for our Lord Jesus Christ to be *REVEALED*.� Now the pre-tribbers claim that this glorious *REVEALING or *REVELATION* of Jesus will be *CONCEALED* BEFORE the beginning of the Great Tribulation.� However, every other time the Word *REVEALED* {Greek-Apocalipsis} is used related to resurrection events it refers to the glorious REVEALING of Jesus on the *LAST DAY* of the Great Tribulation {See 2 Thess 1:7-10 & Luke 17:26-31}. And *CONCEALED* is the exact opposite of *REVEALED* and *APPEARED* according to every dictionary!� Titus 2:13:



Titus 2:13: �*WE* wait for the *BLESSED HOPE*�the glorious *APPEARING* of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. �Hebrews 9:28 �Jesus will *APPEAR* a 2nd time to bring salvation to those who are waiting for Him!�� Matthew 24:29,30: Jesus says, �IMMEDIATELY AFTER the distress of those days {The Great Tribulation} the sun will be darkened and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky. At that time the sign of the Son of Man will *APPEAR in the sky and the nations will *SEE* the Son of Man COMING on the clouds of the sky with power and great glory!!�



I John 2:28: �Dear children, continue in Him, so that when He *APPEARS* WE may be confident and unashamed before Him at His COMING!� {See 2 Thess 1:7-10; I Tim 6:14; Heb 9:28 & Col 3:4}�



2 Tim 4:8: Paul said, There is in store for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge, will award to me on THAT DAY�and not only to me, but to *ALL who have longed for His *APPEARING*!!�



2 Thess 1:1,6-10:� �To the *CHURCH* of the Thessalonians�God is just; He will pay back trouble to those who trouble you and give relief to you who are troubled, and to us as well.� This will happen *WHEN* the Lord Jesus is *REVEALED* {See I Peter 1:13} from heaven in blazing fire�.� He will punish those who do not know God and do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus.� They will be punished with everlasting *DESTRUCTION* and shut out from the presence of the Lord *ON THE DAY HE COMES* to be glorified in His holy people!!�



A meeting at an appointed place and time is called a RENDEZVOUS. We have a RENDEZVOUS with eternity at the glorious *APPEARING* and *REVEALING* of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ *IMMEDIATELY AFTER* the Great Tribulation.

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Posted : 20 Jun, 2011 03:54 PM

I guess you forgot Jesus has already been revealed?

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Posted : 20 Jun, 2011 03:56 PM

Prophet do you know what ever is not of faith is sin?



Btw the way Jesus did not bring out pre trib, mid trib, post trib, that is man's opinion's, nor did he lump his children into groups.

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