If you will not apologize for your words said to Ella, I will not communicate with you all guys on this Forum. Because it will prove me that you are not a Christian. And we should not communicate with such people who know what is right and they deliberately do not do it.
If you sin not loving her, then if I will not stop you then I will be a criminal too. God will judge me too. Look in my ex-church one of the �christian� leaders smoked and after smoking in our house church she said: ok guys let�s go to pray not. Another one lady was sleeping with a lover who picked up her from this church. No one said that they both are sinning�no one of pastors!!! I told them their sins because God said to do it in His Holy Scripture and if I would stay in this smoking room approving what she is doing then I would be like she is a sinner. It is not a church in this case but a business club. It is called sin of omission or accessory of their crimes against God and people if we will not stop them. Unfortunately such people are the majority of people and even they are such in the churches. But God will judge such churches. We all know it. If I will stay in your community observing your sins, I would be a criminal too. That�s why I give you choice: repent and apologize for your insulting words personally to her and give us confirmation that you did it. Or I cannt be accessory of your deeds.
Let me explain why:
1. We all can rebuke each other with the truth about what we have said. We should not get mad and try to turn the tables.
We come up against what we speak wrong, and not us personally... We do just s Jesus and Paul did and this is proper, but we should not dislike it. Jesus warns us that there will be those who will attack and revile us and come up against what we speak when it convicts their hearts of their wrong... We just analyze and meditate on what God says and help to build everybody up because God said us to do it.
The Bible teaches us that an open rebuke is better that secret love, that�s why you should come to your senses... if not I will leave this in God's hands, as long as I am doing my part.
We also see in Proverbs chapter 27, that there are times when it is proper NOT to respond back to a person who is speaking as a fool, as not to be brought down on their level of ignorance. Then there are times when it is VERY proper to respond to a fool as to make them ashamed and hopefully they will repent.
2. If you condemn Ella, then I am asking you to provide proof of her attacking you first. And discuss these issue with her. Invite her for conversation and let us see it. Or is what she said was in response to what you spoke out to her...
3. Please know the kind of self-righteous people. But if the TRUTH is one. You should get Jesus� righteousness though FAITH in God Jesus and love people. If they sin, and you do not correct them in love then you are co-sinner.
4. You should not refuse to accept the truth about God's word. God's word is not something that makes us feel comfortable, it is to move us our of our comfort zones to the right path�to God Himself. God confronts us daily to make us HOLY and teach you to LOVE people!!!!!!
5. God Jesus and Paul spoke back to those who spoke out against God's word was not too nice, but was harsh... but a rebuke and reproof are never too nice or easy to hear.
That's a false balance, and shows where you are coming from in spiritual ignorance, and in need of repentance. You feel they can say what they please.
Well, they devil is a BIG LIAR! But we do not lie and say everything to you straightforward! You do not like it. But we do it to make you perfect because God�s judgement will reveal us who are the true Christians and who are �Muslims� and fake Christians. It is was I called �so-called christian�. If you do not want to be judged by God and bnelong to the millions of fake Christians then REPENT of your sin, confess this sin to God and ask Ella for forgiveness. Turn your heart from hatred to her to love to her and show us your changed behavior.
Do not act as people who are spiritually immature and childish.
But love each other and build up each other because our FATHER is LOVE and His Justice will devour you like FIRE (because God is a devouring Fire) if you will NOT conform to His TRUTH. He commands you and not gives you advice: LOVE God and LOVE people or you will perish. There is no other option for you Mike.
Now show us your love to Ella and by seeing that we will see your love to God!!!
Jude you described what is the TRUE repentance and how to get forgiveness.
Everything what is written by you Jude is the TRUE Christianity! Thank you for sharing this. You are born of God! You know the truth and the Holy Spirit is teaching you.
But God has already CONDEMNED those who do not obey Him. They all confront Him and His Truth.
Those, who confront Him and do not want to conform to His Truth, condemn themselves. And God condemns them: John 3:16-21
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.
�He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed.
But he who does the truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be clearly seen, that they have been done in God.�
People, people, people, I bet you wonder how many times I was going to write that.:ROFL:
The disagreement between the parties is nothing as I have been here for 2 years now. it is a gentle summers breeze that would have ended after several people said they were sorry and sincerely apologized for it.
Since I have come here we have had a woman lie about getting raped.
We had a guy make a female profile to attack men he did not like. He was banned for this.
Should I continue???????????
Ella, i have traveled to the x soviet Union and many English speaking people their do not always understand English as the meaning of words. In matter of fact all of them can not grasp how to use certain words and mess it up. i have met many from that part of the world.
I have mention forgivness several times as I am an uninvolved party. i have tried to write a very gentle message which one side accepts then somebody else trashes the message. True forgiveness starts with keeping your trap shut. As in not opening your mouth, controling your response.
Dennis, as for my part, there is nothing to forgive, I hold nothing against these three women. When they have great posts, I respond in like, if they post trash, I respond in like. It is quite emotionless actually, except for the posts that make me laugh.
Dennis....Dennis ...Some people take this too serious...not that you do, but it is obvious some do.
