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Is it biblical to expose and name false teachers?
Posted : 27 May, 2011 10:50 AM

I have been through many years of spiritual abuse and was delivered out of it by the might hand of the Lord, Himself. I was a "sheeple" and my experience is this "The church raised me, but never grew me up." I was thick into the "word of faith" teachings and rebuked as a "judger and non-loyal" to God's anointed for questioning any authority and what they taught.



Long story short, God brought me out of this church matrix by way of His inner voice inside of me and the long hours of study, AFTER praying for discernment and wisdom on things I felt a check about in my spirit. He said "My sheep hear my voice and they know Me." It's true and we must listen to him over any pastor or teacher, regardless of how much we love and adore them.



This is long and I could put in all in my own words, but this says everything I have written in the past. (wish I would have kept a copy) Sorry it is long, but a worthy read in light of the conversations in the forums and the end times we are in.



Cited from "Jesus is Savior"~



Is It Right:

To Judge, To Expose Error, & To Name Names?



By Pastor E.L. Bynum



Many today believe that it is wrong to expose error and to name names. Liberals have always seemed to believe this, but in recent times it has been widely espoused by evangelicals and Charismatics. Now we are seeing the same fatal error being declared by those who profess to be Bible believing fundamentalists. Those who are faithful in exposing error according to the Bible are now being widely denounced, and are accused of being unloving and unkind. In this tract we intend to present the teaching of the Bible on this vital subject.





I. It Is Right To Practice Biblical Judgment



One of the most misused verses in the Bible is, "Judge not, that ye be not judged." (Matthew 7:1). Every Scripture verse should be read in its context, if we are to properly understand the true meaning. In vs.2-5 of this same chapter it is evident that v.1 is referring to hypocritical judgment. A brother who has a beam in his own eye should not be judging the brother who may have a mote in his eye. The lesson is plain, you cannot judge another for his sin if you are guilty of the same sin.



Those who cling to "Judge not, that ye be not judged," to condemn those who expose error should read the entire chapter. Jesus said, "Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing..." (v.15). How can we know false prophets unless we judge them by the Word of God? If we know the false prophets, how can we fail to warn the sheep of these "ravening wolves?" All through the Bible we find proof that they should be identified and exposed.



"Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit" (vs.16,17). Did the Lord mean that we could not judge the tree (person), by the fruit of their life and doctrine? Certainly not, for you cannot know without judging. All judgment should be on the basis of Bible teaching, not according to whims or prejudices.



"Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment." (John 7:24). Here our Lord commands that we are to "judge righteous judgment," which is judgment based upon the Word of God. If judgment is made upon any other basis, other than the Word of God, it is a violation of Matt. 7:1. Webster's Dictionary says that a judge is "one who declares the law." The faithful Christian must discern of judge on the basis of God's inspired law, the Bible.



A fornicator is described in 1st Corinthians 5:1-13. Paul "judged" (v.3) the man even though he was absent, and he told the Church at Corinth that they were to "judge" (v.12) those that were within. The Greek word for "judge" is the same here as in Matthew 7:1. Paul did not violate "judge not, that ye be not judged," in judging the man, nor in instructing the Church to judge also. All of this judgment was according to the Word of God.



A person who is able to discern between good and evil, has at least one of the major marks of spiritual maturity. "But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil." (Hebrews 5:14). W.E. vine says of the meaning of discern, "a distinguishing, a clear discrimination, discerning, judging; is translated 'discerning' in 1st Corinthians 12:10 of discerning spirits, judging by evidence whether they are evil or of God." Strong also agrees that it means to judge.



Those who are unwilling or incapable of discerning or judging between good and evil are in this manner revealing either their disobedience or their immaturity.





II. It Is Right To Expose False Teachers



False teachers are free to spread their poisonous doctrines today because there is a conspiracy of silence among many Bible believers. Wolves in sheep's clothing are thus enabled to ravage the flock, thereby destroying many.



John the Baptist called the Pharisees and Sadducees (the religious leaders of his day) "a generation of vipers" (snakes) (Matthew 3:7). Today, he would be accused of being unloving, unkind, and unchristian.



Jesus said to the religious Pharisees, "O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh" (Matthew 12:34). To many evangelicals and some fundamentalists, this would be unacceptable language today, but it is biblical language and it came from the mouth of the Son of God.



Standing face to face with these false teachers, Jesus Christ the son of God, called them "hypocrites," "blind guides," "blind," "whited sepulchres," "serpents," and "ye generation of vipers" (Matthew 23:23-34). Yet, we are told today that we are to fellowship with men whose doctrines are just as unscriptural as those of the Pharisees. Some who say they are Bible believing Christians insist on working with Roman Catholics and other assorted heretics. Yet, according to many, we are not supposed to rebuke them for their compromise.



Near the beginning of His ministry, "Jesus went up to Jerusalem, and found in the temple those that sold oxen and sheep and doves, and the changers of money sitting: And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables; And said unto them that sold doves, Take these things hence; make not my Father's house an house of merchandise" (John 2:13-16). Our Saviour is presented today as one who was meek, lowly, kind, and loving, even to false teachers, but this is entirely false. When dealing with false teachers and prophets, His words were sharp and His actions plain.



Near the end of His public ministry, Christ found it necessary to cleanse the temple once again. The exposure of false doctrines and practices is a never ending job. At that time He said, "Is it not written, My house shall be called of all nations the house of prayer? but ye have made it a den of thieves" (Mark 11:17). Is it any different today? The thieves come into the house of God, and rob God's people of the Bible and peddle their perverted Bibles instead. At the same time this den of thieves rob the people off the doctrine of separation and the doctrine of sanctification. Then you can hardly tell God's people from the people of the world. In all honesty, should not these thieves (false teachers) be exposed?



In our day these false teachers have come into the churches with their books, literature, movies, psychology, and seminars, and have turned the Father's house into a den of thieves. It is time that men of God stand up and expose their errors for all to see.



The Bible Admonishes Us To Expose Error



We are to TRY them. "Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits, whether they be of God; because many false prophets are gone out into the world" (1st John 4:1). All doctrine and teachers are to be tried according to the Word of God. "To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them" (Isaiah 8:20). Every message, messenger, and method is to be judged according to the Word of God. The church at Ephesus was commended because they had "tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast fund them liars" (Rev. 2:2). The church at Pergamos was rebuked because they tolerated those that held "the doctrine of Balaam," and "the doctrine of the Nicolaitanes, which thing I hate" (Revelation 2:14,15). It is never right to tolerate false teachers, but they are to be tried by the Word of God, and exposed. Of course those who want to disobey the Word of God will seek by every means to avoid this teaching.



We are to MARK them and AVOID them. "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them" (Romans 16:17). Those whose conduct and teaching contradicts the Word of God are to be marked and to be avoided. This requires discernment and judgment in the light of the Bible. The ecumenicalists, new evangelicals, and compromising fundamentalists will resist any effort to obey this Scripture. They cannot be marked and avoided, unless they are judged according to the Word of God.



We are to REBUKE them. "Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith" (Titus 1:13). This was written to Titus, because there were those going from house to house and subverting whole houses with false doctrine (v.10-16). Oral Roberts, Robert Schuller, Jimmy Swaggart, Pat Robertson, and others are subverting whole houses with their false doctrine today. Are we to sit silently by, while they do this, without rebuking and admonishing people to avoid their teaching? No, the faithful servant of the Lord is to be "Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers" (Titus 1:9).



We are to have NO FELLOWSHIP with them. "And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them" (Ephesians 5:11). Reprove means to censure, condemn, find fault, rebuke, and to refute. How can we obey this Scripture unless we try them by the Word of God?



We are to WITHDRAW from them. "Now we command you, brethren, in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which ye received of us" (2nd Thessalonians 3:6). We are to withdraw from those whose doctrine and conduct does not conform to the Word of God. The context clearly shows that obedience to sound doctrine is what Paul has in mind, for he says, "if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man and have no company with him, that he may be ashamed. Yet, count him not as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother" (2nd Thessalonians 3:14-15). Paul admonished Timothy to "withdraw thyself" from those who "consent not to wholesome words...and to the doctrine which is according to godliness" (1st Timothy 6:3-5).



We are to TURN AWAY from them. Concerning the last days, he says that some will have "a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away" for such people are "never able to come to the knowledge of the truth" (2nd Timothy 3:5,7). How can we turn away from them if we do not identify them, and this requires that their message be compared to the Word of God. It is the business of the true preacher to: "Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine" (2nd Timothy 4:2). This is usually an unpopular and thankless task but it is the duty of the God-called man.



We are NOT to RECEIVE them into our house. "If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds" (2nd John 10,11). There is no doubt about who John is speaking about, it is "Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ..." (v.9). By radio, TV, and literature, false prophets are brought into the homes of many Christians today. Brethren, this ought not to be!



We are to REJECT HERETICS. "A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject" (Titus 3:10). We should reject those who deny redemption by the blood of Christ. There are many who deny this or some other doctrine of the Word of God. If they will not respond to being admonished, then they are to be rejected.



We are to look out for those who preach another gospel. Paul warned about those who preached "another Jesus...another spirit...or another gospel" (2nd Corinthians 11:4). How can we know them unless we judge their Jesus, their spirit, and their gospel by the Word of God? Paul called such preachers "false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ" (2nd Corinthians 11:13). He explains in v.14-15 that these preachers are the ministers of Satan. The God-called man must be just as faithful today in exposing the ministers of Satan.



Paul warned the Galatians about those who "pervert the gospel of Christ." He also said, "if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed." (See Galatians 1:6-9). Multitudes today are preaching a perverted gospel. Those who teach salvation by baptism, or by works, are teaching a perverted gospel. Those who preach a salvation that you can lose, are preaching a perverted gospel. The Charismatics, Catholics, many evangelicals, and many fundamentalists (?) are preaching a perverted gospel. Yet, we are supposed to cooperate with them in evangelism and Christian work, according to many today. If we fail to expose these false prophets, then we have betrayed Christ and His gospel.



We are to SEPARATE from them. "Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you" (2nd Corinthians 6:17). This makes it plain. God's people are to come out of apostasy and religious error. How can any Bible believer remain in the National Council or World Council of Churches? How can they remain in the Southern Baptist Convention, or any of the other apostate organizations? How can they remain among compromising evangelicals and wishy-washy fundamentalists?





III. It is Right To Name Names



Many mistakenly believe that it is wrong to expose error and to name the guilty teachers; but they are wrong according to the Bible.



Paul named Peter publicly. Peter was guilty of unscriptural practice. "But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed...But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, I said unto Peter before them all, If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews?" (Galatians 2:11-14). The whole issue revolved around salvation by the law or by grace. When the integrity and purity of the gospel is at stake, then we have no choice when it comes to the matter of exposing error and naming names.



Paul named Demas for loving the world. "For Demas hath forsaken me, having loved this present world" (2nd Timothy 4:10). Those who forsake the cause of Christ for worldly living and pleasures should be name and exposed.



Paul named Hymenaeus and Alexander. Paul told Timothy to "war a good warfare; Holding faith, and a good conscience; which some having put away concerning faith have made shipwreck: Of whom is Hymenaesus and Alexander; whom I have delivered unto Satan, that they may learn not to blaspheme" (1st Timothy 1:18-20). God's true servants should war a good warfare, and name those who have departed from the faith that was once delivered to the saints. Paul is not here discussing the faith of salvation but the faith as a system of doctrine. These men had made shipwreck of it and Paul exposed them and called their names.



Paul named Hymenaeus and Philetus. He told Timothy to "study" that he might be able to "rightly" divide "the word of truth. But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness. And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus; Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some" (2nd Timothy 2:15-18). False doctrine overthrows the faith of some, so those who are proclaiming it must be exposed.



Paul named Alexander the coppersmith. "Alexander the coppersmith did me much evil: the Lord reward him according to his works: Of whom be thou ware also; for he hath greatly withstood our words" (2nd Timothy 4:14-15). It is clear that this is not a personality problem, but a doctrinal problem. Alexander had withstood the words and doctrine of Paul. He was an enemy to the truth. Godly pastors face the same problem every day. They stand and proclaim the truth, then their members go home and hear this truth disputed by radio and TV preachers. Often times these false prophets are sending their publications into the homes of members of true churches. Then the man of God is suppose to keep his mouth shut, according to many. Only a coward will be silent when the truth of the Bible is under attack.



John name Diotrephes. "I wrote unto the church; but Diotrephes, who loveth to have the preeminence among them, recieveth us not" (III John 9). He related how this man had prated against him "with malicious words" (v.10). He further said, "Beloved, follow not that which is evil but that which is good. He that doeth good is of God, but he that doeth evil hath not seen God" (v.11). It is not wrong to name those whose doctrine and practice is contrary to the Word of God.



In fact, the whole Bible abounds in examples of false prophets being named and exposed. All this modern day talk about love, used as an excuse for not exposing error, is not really biblical love but is really sloppy agape.



Moses called the name of Balaam. (See Numbers 22-25). Peter exposed "the way of Balaam... who loved the wages of unrighteousness" (2nd Peter 2:15). Balaam was a prophet that was in the work for money, just like some of the TV false prophets today. They beg for money and live like kings, while multitudes of innocent people send them their hard earned money. They are always building colleges, hospitals, TV networks satellites, and amusement parks that have a water slide for Jesus. And then we are suppose to keep our mouth shut about these religious charlatans. How can we be silent and be true to God?



Jude exposed "the error of Balaam" (Jude 11). John exposed "the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumblingblock before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication" (Revelations 2:14). This gets right to the heart of the matter, concerning the doctrine of separation. Balaam never did curse Israel even though he wanted the wages that he was offered to do so. The men of Israel committed "whoredom with the daughters of Moab...and bowed down to their gods" (Numbers 25:1,2). Why did they do this? Because Balaam taught Balac how to break down the barrier of separation between the Moabites and the Israelites. We know this to be so because it is plainly stated in Revelation 2:14 and Numbers 31:16. This sin resulted in 24,000 men of Israel dying under the judgment of God.



False teachers are breaking down the barrier of separation between God's people and false religion. There is too little preaching and teaching on the doctrine of separation. Balaam breached the doctrine of personal separation by causing the men of Israel to commit fornication with the Moabite women. He breached the doctrine of ecclesiastical separation by causing the men of Israel to bow down to Baal. This brought a curse upon Israel. Until we get back to teaching the truth about personal and ecclesiastical separation, we can expect the continued widespread havoc that we have today.



It seems to be believed by many that some people are too high and mighty to be named or exposed. Men in high places, pastors of large churches, and those with great radio of TV audiences, are supposedly above criticism. Whatever they may do or say, no matter how contrary to the Bible it may be, is supposedly all right. Nothing could be further from the truth.



Nathan identified the man. There was a man in a very high place who was a secret adulterer. Surely this man who held the highest office in the land could not be rebuked by a lowly unpopular prophet. Nathan went right into the presence of David, revealed the sin in a parable form, and then told the enraged David, "Thou art the man" (2nd Samuel 12:7).



Hanani name king Jehoshaphat. In many ways Jehoshaphat was a good king, but he mistakenly forgot to practice religious separation. He caused his son to marry wicked king Ahab's daughter. (See 2nd Chronicles 18:1; 21:1-6). He made an alliance with Ahab and went to the battle of Ramoth-gilead with him (2nd Chronicles 18). Hanani "said to King Jehoshaphat, Shouldest thou help the ungodly, and love them that hate the Lord?" (2nd Chronicles 19:2). We have a question for those who insist on working with Charismatics, Catholics, and members of the National Council of Churches, "Shouldest thou help the ungodly, and love them that hate the Lord?"



Yes, it is right to expose error and to name those who are in error. It is right to "earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints" (Jude 3). It was once delivered and it has never been recalled for revision. We had better beware of "false teacher...who privily shall bring in damnable heresies" (2nd Peter 2:1). Faithful messengers will warn the sheep of these heretics, and identify them by name. It is not enough to broadly hint of their identity, for the young lambs will not understand and will be destroyed by the wolves.

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Posted : 27 May, 2011 06:19 PM

Billy Graham didn't have multiple mansions, bowling alleys, etc. And Cattywampus, Dennis saw the same thing I did. Ms. Self Righteous is doing same thing she always does. Joey posted a great teaching and et has twisted it to mean what she wants it to and in the process used thou shalt not judge to judge others She threw a few digs along the way. And her side-kicks jump in to say atta girl. LOL

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Posted : 27 May, 2011 06:25 PM

chevy, you don't know didley about what Billy Graham had or what he owns, or what what going on years back regarding his ministry... you just came into the world yesterday, and most likely just heard about Billy Graham five years ago... sssshhhhhhhh, you speak out of both side of your mouth, child:purpleangel:.

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Posted : 27 May, 2011 07:38 PM

I just have One question well maybe 2 or 3 or 4 or 5, is the word of God still relevant today? Because a person does some good, do we overlook their wrong, no matter who they are? Is the bar in Christianity to be set at the same level as the world? Are we to make exceptions for someone misleading the body because they have a large marquee name? If Christians from TBN or any Christian group are preaching salvation and blessings by the dollar, are we to remain silent? Where do we draw the line in the sand, please tell me, so the next time I speak to the youth who mock the body of Christ and ask these same questions, I will know what to say to them, so that they may believe that salvation is real!

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Posted : 27 May, 2011 08:04 PM

These are ET's exact words



"..and guess what, Dennis, Billy Graham also under went such self-righteous hypocritical judgment and condemnantion for years in minister, by those who said he was syealing from the poor people and making himself rich and teaching false doctrines (teachings)"



She specifically stated that OTHERS criticized Billy Graham. And she did this AFTER Dennis made a comment about Billy Graham, and how he compares all teachers, evangelist, etc. to Billy Graham.

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Posted : 27 May, 2011 08:34 PM

lifeseed, Great observation!! ____________________________ et, you're the one who doesn't know didley!! My grand-father was a close personal friend of Billy's. I gave my heart to Christ and was born again at one of his crusades. You speak things as if you know what you're talking about and you have no clue. Like I said, he doesn't have multiple mansions or personal bowling alleys or any of the earthly wealth of Td Jakes (who you have defended with all the gumption you could muster)! He preached a simple gospel. And I've never heard one person accuse him of preaching false doctrine or not setting a Godly example. Where did you hear it? LOL ____________________________ cattywampus, I have blocked you, so I won't be reading anymore of your judgemental rants!

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Posted : 27 May, 2011 09:25 PM

ET, I'm saddened that you missed the whole point here. A Christian does not have to sit under a ministry or watch much of them on TV to DISCERN something is off. Why? Because we have the Holy Spirit living in us who guides us into ALL truth. How else could we be delivered from evil and kept on the straight and narrow?



I John 2:27~ But you have received the Holy Spirit, and he lives within you, so you don't need anyone to teach you what is true. For the Spirit teaches you everything you need to know, and what he teaches is true--it is not a lie. So just as he has taught you, remain in fellowship with Christ.



John 14:26~But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you.



We are sheep with a Head Shepherd and His name is Jesus. ALL preachers, teachers, any of us, are subject to error when they stop self-denial, dying daily and living at the foot of the cross. You cannot remain humble and Christ-like when you constantly harp on people for money and boast of prayers being answered because you follow some formula that always works. We do not have it in us to live holy out of our own strength. The good works these guys do are done by the Red Cross, United Way, movie stars and humanitarians, too. It means nothing to Christ if it is not Cross centered and bringing HIM the glory from a TRUE disciple.



Do you know that Paul dealt with preachers in his day that wanted the people's money? And that there is another Jesus and gospel that they were of? Paul passionately warns them and I lovingly warn those in this forum who support the false teachers.



1 I hope you will put up with me in a little foolishness. Yes, please put up with me! 2 I am jealous for you with a godly jealousy. I promised you to one husband, to Christ, so that I might present you as a pure virgin to him. 3 But I am afraid that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent�s cunning, your minds may somehow be led astray from your sincere and pure devotion to Christ. 4 For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the Spirit you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough.

5 I do not think I am in the least inferior to those �super-apostles.�[a] 6 I may indeed be untrained as a speaker, but I do have knowledge. We have made this perfectly clear to you in every way. 7 Was it a sin for me to lower myself in order to elevate you by preaching the gospel of God to you free of charge? 8 I robbed other churches by receiving support from them so as to serve you. 9 And when I was with you and needed something, I was not a burden to anyone, for the brothers who came from Macedonia supplied what I needed. I have kept myself from being a burden to you in any way, and will continue to do so. 10 As surely as the truth of Christ is in me, nobody in the regions of Achaia will stop this boasting of mine. 11 Why? Because I do not love you? God knows I do!



12 And I will keep on doing what I am doing in order to cut the ground from under those who want an opportunity to be considered equal with us in the things they boast about. 13 For such people are false apostles, deceitful workers, masquerading as apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. 15 It is not surprising, then, if his servants also masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.



You must get quiet before the Lord and LISTEN, then OBEY...HIM. A loving sister~Joey

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Posted : 27 May, 2011 10:44 PM

Guys, in regards to Billy Graham, there is a website that does specifically condemns him and calls him a false teacher.



The site is http://www.atruechurch.info/graham.html



I ran across it earlier this week, when someone posted it elsewhere.



@Jude, sorry for highjacking your post just now.

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Posted : 27 May, 2011 10:46 PM

@Joey, um, sorry for confusing you for Jude.

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Posted : 27 May, 2011 10:57 PM

JS, don't be saddened, because I haven't missed the point of the semon, I know what this article is speaking about, and I'm welled studied in know what God's word has to say about false teachers and fales doctrines. So cheer up... lol

Yes, we do have the Holy Spirit living on the inside of us to teach and lead us in all things. But you must also know that for those who fall for false teachers and the tricks of those who led them astray, does mean that just because the Holy Spirit is living on the inside of then, they will know how to discern right from wrong, and good from evil if they are not studying God's word of truth...

This is why God placed pastors, evangelist teachers, etc in the church so that we could all come into a oneness of the faith and knowledge of Jesus christ... so you tell me how does a new babes in Christ knwo how this is done as believers? Many don't know how to discern the directions of the leadership of the Holy Spirit, if this was the case, why would Christians still sin when we are told that the Holy Spirit lives on the inside of us and will lead us inot all truth, so why isn't anyone listening as not to sin when Jesus and Paul teach that we are not to sins as Christnas in Chirst who have the Spirit of the Lord living on the inside of us...

JS, please know that Im not a new Christian just coming into the walk of the WAY, so I know what this article is speaking about and what Jesus speaks and the warnings Paul has given us, and to all of us including those warning to Timothy and Titus as to what we should expect and how we are to watch and pray and be on the look out for pretaining false teachers

You testify that you were deceived by a false teacher, so was this before your new birth or during or after? Many people come to know Christ under the false teachings of those who mislead people, so if you were misled how did this happen?... I'm sure no different than nd the same way as many others are misled by false teachings even after being under those who have been in the church for 50 years. People are misled by flase teachers becasue they sekk something other than what God has said, and/or they don;t properly study the word of God. Have you ever been on a rescue evangelism team ministering to those who have backsliden from the faith becasue they got caght up following a false teacher... well, I have, and they didn;t get caught up because no one told them not to judge, they got caught up because they were not studying and searching the word of god for themselves and believing whatever was told to them, an when they got hurt was when they didn;t seen the vain glory promised them by the false teacher, instead of steadfastness taught by God and a failure of not being led by the Holy Spirit ...and many had been in church and saved for years...

The Holy Spirit takes up residency in all who believe in Jesus Chirst as born again, yet many people still are not aware of how to respond to His leadership even when they have been born again for 30 years.Paul tell us this in his writings to Timothy because many fall from the faith seeking a cure all or soft-shoe teaching, and many are offended by the truth that is written in God's word.

Paul has instructed us to be aware of false teachers and this article is only tell us the same things and the flip side of what Paul and Jesus and this article is speaking is that just as Jesus spoke, even many who profess and confess Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviore will be overcome by the flase teachings of the antichrist.

This is on the mark in that it is not a one-fold message, if if you are onlt receiving it to mean one way then I;m saddened by this becasue God's word is not a one-fold word it covers is in all areas where it is needed. This sermon tells us that if yoy are going to judge righteously, you had better knwo what you're speaking about... you can't jduge based on what somebody else has told you... Jesus we will KNOW THEM according to their fruits, so how can you rightly judge someone as a false teacher if you don't know what they are teaching or have never heard them teach or preach? You can't! How does one get to KNOW thier fruits, by seeing their works which are their fruits, or hearing thier words.

Paul states in the end times these things will eb and they will grow worse and worse, and when you can righteously judge a minister by his fruits (works) and his word then you are just anf air in your judging, otherwise you are bearing fale witness and that's a sin.

From Genesis throughout God's word many of God's prophets and servants were falsely judged and God punished those who did such... you can;t go around judguing minsters of God as flae teachers teaching the word of God and you have only heard what others have said and read on the internet and you have never even ehard a word spoken by thisperson to fairly judge.. that ain;t right nor is it proper, and this is what Jesus and the sermon is also saying about judging others when you yourself are not right...

Jesus teaches not to judge BEFORE its time, if you don't know the turht for yourself about a person or citustion or a person's circumstance, how can you rightly judge it? You can't! Al things are to be judge based on what you know not what you hear other say, and you don't know the facts for yourself, I mean this is even truth in secular situation, where is your evidence Paul teaches us in I Corinthians wisdom must be used when rightlt judge, how can this be if you don't know for yourself if what you're judging is truth?

Those who posted on those thread don't know if these things are treu that they posted about Jakes or the others saying these people are stealing money from poor people, and just because they are living in fine homes, so what they live in fine homes, you and I owuld to if we could afford it to live where they live...lol

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Is it biblical to expose and name false teachers?
Posted : 27 May, 2011 11:23 PM

Kat, there are many websites that call Billy Graham a false teacher and they have done this for years. And just like Jakes and many of the others, the IRS and the others have never found anythign out of order on Graham Jakes, and many of these other ministers.

I plan to post some of the articles for those who say I;m the first person they have ever heard to say anything negative about Biblly Graham... tthere is nowhere in the Bible where God forbids anyne from being rich, He warns of the the foolishness of worshipping our riches, but He grants us these riches to be a blessings to other, I don;t udnertsan dthe anger... maybe its jealousy and that a sin according to God... Don't preach to me bcause I have dealt as a ghost bluster against false teachers and the schemes face to face. God only speak about thsoe who do not use their money wisely... al who said they were spiritually wealth no one still hasn;t said what they are doing with all their spiritual wealth... God also expect good stewardship using this even the more.

Also please know that I'm so very sorry you got kicked out the synagague /club for speaking out the truth of what I said... you know God for us to expect these thinsg to happned, many peole have been lost by the wayside for not speaking out the truth when the have seen something wrng... God say when you don't speak out the truth of His word against a wrong, you become a partaker of that peron's sin...

May God bless you dearly and grant you the desires of your heart that you have requested of His in your prayers.

And please forgive me that your name has been blocked and you're kicked out the cult...ooops I meant the club. Its too funny, because I have noticed that when two other ladies have spoken out on the half of the truth recognizing what I had spoken was of God or was a truth, one of the other clubs leaders posted a shame and guilt notice of surprise for them... that's rather cultic isn't it it appears to me as some one having such power and control over you, as to who you can communicate with and who you can't, who you can agree with and who you can't.. sound like a strong man complex to me... and you don't even know these people?... now you "DONE" got kicked out the group because of me... but I also noticed that the only communication allowed with me is when its in a group foramtion in disagreement with what ever I post. It seems if anyone is not in diagreement with me, you sure the hell better not agree with me and the cult leaders find out about such.... lawd have murrceee..:yay::ROFL:

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