Author	Thread: Current day example of denying the lord!!
Admin	Current day example of denying the lord!! Posted : 19 May, 2011 10:47 AM Why won't those that believe wake up and love James and tell him he is in total denial of the word of God? Reformed theology denies the very foundation of the word of God in saying man does not have the ability to do what the word of God tells him to do. By the way there is no place for Jesus in reformation theology, even on this site I have heard it more than once they have the basics, no they don't they totally deny the basics. The foundation of Christianity is built on faith from the word of God, not the word of men about the word of God. Twosparrows said James you asked: so shall you receive: John 1:10-13 especially ~ "But to all who did receive Him" and "He gave them the right to be children of God tothose who believe in His name" James replies: This is a good Scripture, and in no way disagrees with the Order of Salvation, or the "Ordo Salutis". This Scripture says that the ones who received Jesus, were accepted by God and forgiven. It does NOT say "they had the ability to chose". This is another "whosoever" verse. NO ONE who repents and trusts in Jesus will be turned away! But the Bible ALSO plainly says that NO ONE has the ability to repent and trust in Jesus UNLESS God GRANTS it, or DRAWS them, or GIVES THEM the GIFT OF FAITH. And what I am saying to you, is NOTHING NEW! And since there has been so much time spent on this group lately slamming Calvin and Luther, and the Reformation in General, here is something from a THOUSAND YEARS earlier than the Reformation: If anyone makes the assistance of grace depend on the humility or obedience of man and does not agree that it is a gift of grace itself that we are obedient and humble, he contradicts the Apostle who says, "What have you that you did not receive?" (1 Cor. 4:7), and, "But by the grace of God I am what I am" (1 Cor. 15:10). If anyone affirms that we can form any right opinion or make any right choice which relates to the salvation of eternal life, or that we can be saved by assent to the preaching of the gospel through our natural powers without the effectual work of the Holy Spirit, who makes all whom He calls gladly and willingly assent to and believe in the truth, he is led astray from the plain teaching of Scripture by exalting the natural ability of man, and does not understand the voice of God who says in the Gospel, "For apart from me you can do nothing" (John 15:5), and the word of the Apostle, "Not that we are competent of ourselves to claim anything as coming from us; our competence is from God" (2 Cor. 3:5). Adapted from The Council of Orange (529 AD) In Christ, James Post Reply
View Profile History	Current day example of denying the lord!! Posted : 20 May, 2011 10:46 AM Hey Bahira, thanks, love you:hearts: Hey Jude, You can find this in Jesus' explanation of the parable to his disciples in Matthew chapter 13: 37-43 ... the good seed is speaking about Jesus Christ/ the gospel, the good seed are children of the kingdom who are the Christian believers who have received Christ, the wheat. The tares are the children of the wicked one satan/devil these are they who have rejected Jesus Christ and the gospel. Problem is 2sparrow would like to believe that satan is the father as in natural father to children born on earth... not understanding the spiritual meaning or usages of the word seed in context with the spriitual and the natural biblical teachings or concepts or usages of the word. Chirst is our spiritual Father and the good seed is Jesus Christ Himself, and through His word the seed of the gospel has produced good seed/Christian believers. Born again saved believers, children of the kingdom. Satan through his deceit and lies and his seed of corruption which are the sins of the disobedient, is the father of the children of the wicked/evil who reject Christ, and do not receive the gospel which has produced children of evil. Tthese are the tares or weeds who pretend to be saved but are not, they have a form of godliness but deny the power of God's truth and His word the gospel in ublief. Unsaved sinners are the tares who will be destroyed and burn along with satan and the devil in the lake of fire. Very spiritually clear plain and simple. But as Paul says, a carnal minded person does not nor can he/she understand the spiritual things of God, because they are spiritually discerned which means revealed by the Holy Spirit therefore, they will not understand God Himself or His Word. Post Reply
View Profile History	Current day example of denying the lord!! Posted : 20 May, 2011 11:25 AM Thanxs Ella...I get that the Seed is the Word...Christ Jesus...the Gosple of Love & Salvation sowed into the hearts of the Children of God the Father...I was asking were Jesus said what 2Spar said Jesus said...whewww...thats a tongue stumbler...:laugh:...Anywho...It dont make no never mind...Thanxs again...Luv ya...xo Post Reply
View Profile History	Current day example of denying the lord!! Posted : 20 May, 2011 12:17 PM Why isn't the hen yelling ATTACK to the woman from another planet for the personal attacks she's launching against Twosparrows? MUST BE A DOUBLE STANDARD IN HERE! LOL ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Post Reply
View Profile History	Current day example of denying the lord!! Posted : 20 May, 2011 12:42 PM Good grief, the blind leading the blind! And Bahira you should know better! One more time: JESUS SAYS: (UM..IN RED LETTERS in Matt 13: 37-43) "The One who sows the good seed is the Son of Man" "The field is the world" "The good seed --- these are the sons of the kingdom" "The weeds are the sons of the evil one and the enemy who sowed them is the Devil" "The harvest is the end of the age" CAN'T MAKE IT ANY PLAINER FOR YOU ALL! BTW; I am not drawing any conclusions as ET wrongly posts, I am merely exploring possibilities that line up with what Jesus said as opposed to those who change what Jesus said to line up with your own ideas. Post Reply
View Profile History	Current day example of denying the lord!! Posted : 20 May, 2011 12:45 PM Two is "sharing" here and et yells 'Twisted'! 'Demonic Influence'! Same as before. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ BTW, jude, I read your bucket of rocks post online on another site. Same words , different people~~~~ Seems you copied it from a book. And was it a lie when you said, "I promise not to butt in on other people's thread"? Seems like it. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Tares goes deeper than just meaning people who reject Christ, but you two are so wise, maybe God will open your spiritual eyes and give you understanding. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ bahira, for some reason the fact that you like her replys surprises me. I thought you were closer to God than that. Post Reply
View Profile History	Current day example of denying the lord!! Posted : 20 May, 2011 12:54 PM If you guys know so much PLEASE explain instead of just continuing disagreeing. Shoukld you not feel a spiritual obligation to explain the meaning of what Jesus said, although He has already given an explanation can you 2sparrow or chevy explain back to me what Jesus said and what He meant? Post Reply
View Profile History	Current day example of denying the lord!! Posted : 20 May, 2011 12:57 PM 2sparrow and chevy, maybe you should also include the application of this parable, since you spiritually know so much about what Jesus is speaking about... Post Reply
View Profile History	Current day example of denying the lord!! Posted : 20 May, 2011 12:59 PM Thats Bull Pucky Chevy...I wrote that my self from my heart...if you found that on a differant site please say where I'd like to see it my self...as for the rest of the Poo Slinging...do any of you know that part of the Forgiveness process is not just to Forgive and Continue to Give but also to Forget and Remember it no more...You Dam me if I do and Dam me if I dont...So...I will Forgive...Give...Forget...What will you do ?...xo Post Reply
View Profile History	Current day example of denying the lord!! Posted : 20 May, 2011 01:05 PM It's been explained already :over and over and over.You say you can't see it so ET call home, maybe you need some visine to get the red out! Lol Post Reply
View Profile History	Current day example of denying the lord!! Posted : 20 May, 2011 01:06 PM Mat 13:37-43...got it...thanxs...37~ He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man; 38~ The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; 39~ The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels....xo Post Reply

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