Thinking the "Rapture" might be the biggest heresy in 2000 years?
Posted : 16 May, 2011 07:24 AM
I greatly appreciate the Asuza Street outpouring. Being penacostal for a few decades, I don't know what I would do without contemporary worship, and the revival of the gifts.
But then there's the other side of the coin. The church goes from overmanaged to unmanaged with tons of people being added to the Kingdom, but half tons of people being hurt with bad doctrine and policy.
As I get older, I am really trying to not argue with my brothers and sisters on non-salvation issues, but recently had a "rapture" advocate clearly tell me that "if I did not believe in it, that I would not be going". Wow, that was a revelation on how far this thing can go. Not only are unbelievers going to be "left behind", but also believers who don't accept or understand the rapture theory are also going to be left.
I had just finished telling her that if she was not in line to get on the ark, that I would grab her hand and get her aboard, and trusted that if she were flying off, that she would do the same for me. She sure made clear to me the extent of grace of her God.
So, I thought maybe I should go back over some of the basics, and for me, 2 simple rules are, "show me where God did it in the Bible", and "is this concept simple enough for a junior high student to understand".
It seems that there are only 2 places where God took people out of the earth, Enoch, and Elijah, and neither were in any iminent danger. So there are hundreds of examples of God taking His kids through the troubles of this earth, and so far none where He has taken them out of it. And regarding the "when", it just has to many holes to make simple sense.
So, the whole earth is more full of fear than at any time in the history of mankind, and there is virtually no-one preaching a solid message of how God protects His kids through trouble, and a huge number of big names saying we're not going to be around.
I'm thinking this is the "peace and safety" message that is going to be coming as part of the birthpangs.
Thinking the "Rapture" might be the biggest heresy in 2000 years?
Posted : 17 May, 2011 09:12 PM
"Did Calvin have people put to death for not believing his theory".
Why in the world would you ask such a question?
Have you had any people put to death for not believing a theory?
First we have PhillipJohn making ridiculous statements about the Reformation, and now we have YOUR bizarre question.
The TOPIC of this post had to with what might be the biggest heresy in all of church history, and that it could be the secret rapture idea so popular today.
Thinking the "Rapture" might be the biggest heresy in 2000 years?
Posted : 6 Jul, 2011 07:27 PM
Try reading a book by Marv Rosenthal, a born again Jew from I believe Philadelphia PA and now in FL. It is called PreWrath Rapture. Very interesting and not what the latest doctrine of the rapture is all about, but "new" doctrine may not be "true" doctrine. I vote for pre tribulation rapture, but I think scripture really says otherwise. BUT, I do believe in a rapture! Blessings, Nancy
