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Admin	Why Calvinism Exists..... (in 10 seconds or less) Posted : 20 Apr, 2011 05:12 PM The invention of the printing press put Bibles into the hands of common man for the first time in all of history. People quickly discovered the Catholic Church's teachings were not in line with the Bible. When the Catholic Church refused to align it self with the Bible the people protested, thus was born the Prostestant Movement. Some in the New movement feared the Bible in the hands of the common uneducated man combined with freedom from the Catholic Church authority would result in various heresies. These people were known as the Reformers, thus was born the Reformation Movement. Reformers felt they needed to standardize the teachings of the Bible, more or less "Reforming the Catholic Church's teachings" to align with the Bible to avoid people interpreting the Bible for themselves. To do this they drew on the writings of Augustine, Calvin and others, thus producing the Doctrines of Grace and Reformation Theology. In light of history, I am of the opinion that Reformation Theology is exactly what the name suggests; a 'Reformed Catholic Church' which in reality makes us Reformers and Protestants, instead as the Calvinist suggests; Calvinists and Arminians. This really tickles me cause it makes so many things about their behavior towards doctrine and Church histoy make sense to me. You know what I mean? Post Reply
View Profile History	Why Calvinism Exists..... (in 10 seconds or less) Posted : 20 Apr, 2011 07:10 PM There you go again acting like you don't interpret scripture, you just read it! That might just be where your problem lies. "What is wrong Ryan, didn't you realize you are a Reformed Catholic? ...Lol " Oh goodness, Paul believed in the doctrines of grace....Jesus did... You missed the point entirely. Early Christians believed in the doctrines of grace, whether the term was already coined or not! "but there is the responsibility to expose and condemn , all teaching outside of the word God as Calvinism is 100 %. " Certainly and if you had been able to show in any prior posts that it was false, you might have legs to stand on. Sadly for the few weeks I've been here now, you've not even been able to properly handle even the simple and plain scriptures on salvation. Post Reply
View Profile History	Why Calvinism Exists..... (in 10 seconds or less) Posted : 20 Apr, 2011 07:23 PM LSU posted; "There you go again acting like you don't interpret scripture, you just read it! That might just be where your problem lies." -------------- I do not "systematically" interpret Scripture to the extent of Reformers. That IS where your problem lies. Scripture is not a mathematical in the sense you can add it together to come up with new truths that are not clearly stated in Scripture, which is what you do. The only place I "systematically " interpret Scripture is for clarification on a stated truth, not to come up with new truths. Post Reply
View Profile History	Why Calvinism Exists..... (in 10 seconds or less) Posted : 20 Apr, 2011 07:32 PM "Scripture is not a mathematical in the sense you can add it together to come up with new truths that are not clearly stated in Scripture, which is what you do. " I proclaim old truths :glow: Anyway, thanks for finally admitting you interpret scripture. Post Reply
View Profile History	Why Calvinism Exists..... (in 10 seconds or less) Posted : 20 Apr, 2011 07:52 PM Ryan the word of God speaks for itself, it needs no defense, anyone can see the error of reformed theology especially those that are spirit filled. Post Reply
View Profile History	Why Calvinism Exists..... (in 10 seconds or less) Posted : 20 Apr, 2011 07:58 PM LSU posted; I proclaim old truths Anyway, thanks for finally admitting you interpret scripture. ------------- Just cause they are old doesn't make them true. Never said I didn't interpret Scripture, I am just not a Systematic Theology Extremist. Post Reply
View Profile History	Why Calvinism Exists..... (in 10 seconds or less) Posted : 20 Apr, 2011 08:01 PM "Ryan the word of God speaks for itself, it needs no defense, anyone can see the error of reformed theology especially those that are spirit filled. " I'm assuming there is some point it this. I can't find it though. Maybe it's you attempting to say you don't interpret scripture. The truths from it just pop into you mind. "Never said I didn't interpret Scripture, I am just not a Systematic Theology Extremist. " Well you have certainly done this and criticized James and I for interpreting scripture instead of just reading what is there. Post Reply
View Profile History	Why Calvinism Exists..... (in 10 seconds or less) Posted : 20 Apr, 2011 08:06 PM That sounds more like me Ryan!! Post Reply
View Profile History	Why Calvinism Exists..... (in 10 seconds or less) Posted : 20 Apr, 2011 08:09 PM ha:ROFL: Post Reply
View Profile History	Why Calvinism Exists..... (in 10 seconds or less) Posted : 20 Apr, 2011 08:21 PM LSU posted: "Well you have certainly done this and criticized James and I for interpreting scripture instead of just reading what is there." ---------------- No, I simply went to Scripture and read it to see if it supported your doctrine. I did not attempt to see if it systematically supported your doctrine,except in that one must take the whole Bible as true. I'll be the first to admit your doctrine is logically sound, it just doesn't agree with all of Scripture. Post Reply
View Profile History	Why Calvinism Exists..... (in 10 seconds or less) Posted : 20 Apr, 2011 08:23 PM Guess what? You interpreted Post Reply

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