I explained how this is true. Believing in Christ is not doing something against your will. It is a heart change.
19 And I will give them one heart, and a new spirit I will put within them. I will remove the heart of stone from their flesh and give them a heart of flesh, 20 that they may walk in my statutes and keep my rules and obey them. And they shall be my people, and I will be their God.
That scripture is true Ryan of course it is but the word teaches the new heart is given to him that believeth. is only by faith, the way others speak of is manipulation, witchcraft.
Reformation's Doctrines of Grace in one sentence :
All people will refuse God, therefore God picked a few to save against their will.
(I think that covers all 5 points of Tulip in one sentence)
James replies:
Your title again does not agree with what you say in the post.
The Gospel, meaning "the Good News" is about Jesus.
And the Gospel is the same for Arminians and Calvinists.
1. All People will refuse God.
My question is, is are finally accepting that fallen mankind has a will enslaved to sin, and that NO ONE seeks for God?
Jesus says NO ONE CAN, and He says it TWICE in John 6.
Paul says NO ONE SEEKS FOR GOD:
Rom 3:9-12 What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin; As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
1. Therefore God picked a few to save against their will.
James replies:
There is no "therefore". God, in His infinite wisdom, justice, mercy, and power, DECIDED before the world was made and foreordained ALL THINGS. God KNEW that Adam and Eve would disobey Him.
"God picked a few to save".
I first would like to point out that that "few" is in relation to the total amount of people created. That "few" could easily be over a BILLION people!
But back to "God picked a few".
John 6:37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
Act 13:48 And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed.
Rom 9:10-24 And not only this; but when Rebecca also had conceived by one, even by our father Isaac; (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;) It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger. As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated. What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid. For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy. For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth. Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth. Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will? Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus? Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory, Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?
And lastly "against their will".
Praise God, He did not leave us to ourselves!!!!!!!!!
Eze 11:19 And I will give them one heart, and I will put a new spirit within you; and I will take the stony heart out of their flesh, and will give them an heart of flesh: That they may walk in my statutes, and keep mine ordinances, and do them: and they shall be my people, and I will be their God.
John 3:27 John answered and said, A man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven.
Here is one that speaks about your comment on "will".
John 1:11-13 He came unto his own, and his own received him not. But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
As I have said many times to you, So much for free will........
